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Now Father, you should know better than that. There are four different Masses celebrated for the Solemnity of the Nativity of Our Lord -- each has its own set of readings:

It is clear that a Mass at 4, 6, or 8 PM is the vigil Mass. If you, Father, use the Midnight Mass readings there, you are committing a horrible liturgical abuse.

And why in the world are you tolerating a parent focusing on the material (gifts) as opposed to the spiritual (the birth of Christ)? Why did you not reprove that individual?

Priests like you, Father, are why orthodox Catholics want little or nothing to do with the Society of Jesus (a/k/a the Jesuits). Priests like you are the ones who make it far more difficult for actual Holy Jesuits to get anything done. St Ignatius Loyola would gladly turn you over to the Catalonian authorities for execution of sentence as a heretic for broadcasting such lies.

You, sir, are an embarrassment.

1 posted on 12/25/2011 12:40:33 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Indeed, the earlier Masses are additional to, not replacements of, Midnight Mass.


2 posted on 12/25/2011 12:52:44 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: markomalley

Even bigger is “The secularization of Christmas is a recent phenomenon.” It has been only recently that government entities have had to eliminate any vestige of Christmas.


4 posted on 12/25/2011 2:44:40 PM PST by klgator
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To: markomalley

I saw the link was to the Washington Post and knew it wasn’t worth reading further.


6 posted on 12/25/2011 3:18:36 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: markomalley

At my parish, the vigil mass, 4:30PM, which is also the kids liturgy is now for the children and the families. The kids choir sings at the vigil mass. Always, always packed. For the midnight mass at 10PM, though a lot of people, is not packed to the ceiling. The vigil has before the mass begins, a Nativity play 30 minutes before the mass begins. At the midnight mass at 10PM, the adult choir sings.

Plus the two morning masses, 8AM and 10;30AM, either cantored or those adults with any kids who can come to sing.


7 posted on 12/25/2011 3:31:06 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: markomalley

Even in St. Peter’s in Rome, the Papal midnight mass was moved up by 2 hours to 10PM as well. My parish did the midnight mass up by two hours that way also for years now.


8 posted on 12/25/2011 3:34:00 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: markomalley

Did not the Vatican in recent years rein-in the Jesuits?


9 posted on 12/25/2011 4:14:29 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: markomalley

Did anyone else watch any of the History Channel or CNN the story of Jesus?

I didn’t get to see it all, but it was interesting.


11 posted on 12/25/2011 4:54:58 PM PST by Jvette
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To: markomalley; Biggirl

I think it is commendable that the elderly (with poor night vision) are able to attend services in comparative daylight.


12 posted on 12/25/2011 6:07:03 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: markomalley

Actually, after sunset is not the vigil mass since the new “day” starts at sunset (reverting to the Jewish custom of starting the sabbath at sunset).

so an 8 pm mass would be “midnight mass” and probably a good idea in areas where crime is high or in rural areas where folks don’t want to travel back roads at night.

Our midnight mass here in the Philippines is at 11 pm, but the singing starts at 10 pm. Then we come home for a family feast.

But I can’t remember if we had midnight mass when I worked in Africa: There, few folks had clocks, so we rang the bells an hour before mass and fifteen minutes before mass to let folks know it was time to walk to church...before then, I really didn’t understand why churches had bells.


13 posted on 12/26/2011 2:12:54 PM PST by LadyDoc
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