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The Fiscal Crisis Straw Man and Moral Relativism's Consuming Dragon
IFB ^ | 12/29/11

Posted on 12/29/2011 6:48:05 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

What amazes me more than anything today is the ignorance of those who seek to figure out what is at the root of our American decline (socially and fiscally). My friend, unless you have been born again as the Lord Jesus Christ has commanded, you will NEVER be able to understand it let alone see it (John 3:3-7, Rom. 8:5-8, 1 Cor. 2:14, Jude 1:10).

When these violations are more numerous against the absolutes of time and space (natural laws and moral absolutes) and are promoted, practiced and deemed natural and normal by the lawless ones of fallen humanity it sends forth a destructive chain reaction in which the erosion of a society becomes EXPONENTIAL!

Conservatives (in general) listen to the false prophets of optimism in the conservative media, their objective optimism, their conservative political theories and instruction which is somewhat good and based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God, but still there is something that is crucially missing... a SAVING RELATIONSHIP TO OUR CREATOR. It is true that in this world when the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God are violated, there is always a destructive consequence that WILL follow (Gal. 6:7). When these violations are more numerous against the absolutes of time and space (natural laws and moral absolutes) and are promoted, practiced and deemed natural and normal by the lawless ones of fallen humanity it sends forth a destructive chain reaction in which the erosion of a society becomes EXPONENTIAL. Just look at what has taken place to our Judeo/Christian culture and society since the 1960’s.

We today in America see a war raging before us between those who seek to adhere to the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God and those who are the violators of the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. Sadly, the lawless totally outnumber the adherers by overwhelming numbers and are more than willing to violate every decent and noble principle to accomplish their end. Today there is only a remnant of sound (social and fiscal) conservatives in the conservative movement who (apart from those who know the Savior- Isa. 1:9) are the bedrock of this nation. Remove these individuals and all is lost. Many “conservative” leaders and grass root conservatives have somewhat abandoned the practice of morals while proclaiming to be pro-life and true social conservatives. These practice a “conservative” immorality while holding strong “fiscal” conservative values. These individuals wear the “conservative” team shirt and fool many who believe them to be true blue conservatives. This my dear friend is where we are as a movement today.

Sadly, the lawless totally outnumber the adherers by overwhelming numbers and are more than willing to violate every descent and noble principle to accomplish their end.

TRUE conservatism (social, moral and then fiscal) is REJECTED by the majority of conservatives. For example, look at the Republican primaries and the joke that it has become. Michele Bachman and Rick Santorum are the only two solid conservatives (socially and fiscally) in the 2012 race and are REJECTED outright by the Republican Party (moderate/ pseudo fiscal conservatism and anti social conservatism), the Tea Party (fiscal conservatism/moral relativist) and the fiscal conservatives (anti social conservatism) of the “conservative” movement. How in the name of all that is “TRUE conservatism” is it that a socialist liberal, a moderate liberal and a libertarian isolationist – who all call themselves “conservatives” - are in the lead for the Republican presidential nominee for 2012? The answer is simple and I do not even have a golden EIB microphone to communicate the message to you. It is because many “conservatives” and the rest of the moderate Republican Party truly DO NOT want to adhere to and identify themselves with sound social “moral” conservatism. It is social “moral” conservatism which is absolutely crucial for the survival of any nation in this fallen world. Throw out morality and personal accountability and lawlessness and anarchy will be the rule of the land. My dear American brethren, I hope that I am not coming across like a square to you on this but this is exactly the heart of America’s dilemma.

My friend, if the big tent of “conservatism” is NOT for sound social and moral conservative candidates and the Republican Party is NOT for sound social and moral conservative candidates and if the moderate Independent liberals are NOT for sound social and moral conservative values and we know - without a shadow of a doubt that the archenemy of social conservatism - the progressive secular left is NOT for sound social and moral conservative values and the masses of clueless victicrat socially dependent Americans are oblivious and NOT for sound social and moral conservative candidates then we are DONE as a people and a nation. Who is left but ONLY a small group that will NOT carry the day. It is just that simple and any “ignorant fisherman” or “Yankee doodle” can see it as clear as the sun. Sadly Americans see this world through the prism of our subjective fallen humanity and until they are born again (made alive spiritually by faith in Almighty God's Savior) they will NEVER see what is right before them and what is to be very shortly (John 3:3-7, Rom. 8:5-8, 1 Cor. 2:14, Jude 1:10). Americans today have been fully deceived by Satan. Spiritual TRUTH and REALITY are nowhere to be found in the darkened subjective prison in which they abide (John 3:19-21, Rom. 1:18-32, 8:5-8, 2 Cor. 4:3-4).

It is just that simple and any “ignorant fisherman” or “Yankee doodle” can see it as clear as the sun.

Many conservatives want to address the fiscal crisis in America first, then maybe look at the social train wreck after the fact. My conservative friends, please forget about America’s EXPONENTIAL fiscal debt of 15 Trillion dollars. That is just peanuts and a little baby straw man that has been erected by the god of this world and his lawless minions of moral relativism to distract you from the massive disintegration of the dam of moral fiber and absolutes (Eph. 2:2-3). This dam has been eroded way these last 60 years and has finally fractured. The deluge from this collapse has sent forth the torrents of tsunami like waves across the American social structure and has ravished all that it has flooded over. Oh… how deceived you are America! Thou wretched fool! You are on your death bed rotting away and in light of ETERNITY are about to give FULL account to your Creator and all that consumes you is the infinitesimal vain matters of your temporal worldly estate (Matt. 6:19-21, Luke 12:19-20, James 5:1-5)! This outright rejection and willing ignorance of Almighty God, reality and sound morality is what is at the root of the evil subjective mindset of Americans today. It is this godless immoral evil that is far EXPONENTIALLY greater than our nation’s fiscal debt!

The deluge from this collapse has sent forth the torrents of tsunami like waves across the American social structure and has ravished all that it has flooded over.

Do not be distracted by Satan and fallen man's straw men which only offer vain and hopeless solutions that are rooted in falsehoods and delusional optimistic appraisals. The moral collapse of the American family and moral social structure by moral relativism is FAR GREATER a HORRIFIC DEBT and CONSUMING DRAGON for America then any fiscal crisis could ever be. No wonder why sound morality is absolute abhorred by this nation (Republican and Democrat) and has been replaced with a moral relativism that all (conservative and liberal) can adhere to in the blindness and deception of their own mind (Rom. 1:18-32, Jude 1:10).

This dire state and root cause of the America social demise is NEVER EVER ADDRESSED by the media, Republicans, Independents, Democrats, pseudo conservatives, moderates, liberals and progressives. They have - across the political spectrum - redefined; twisted and euphemized truth, reality, morality and absolutes into lawless balloon animals, which are very fragile, unstable and very vulnerable.

They have across the political spectrum redefined; twisted and euphemized truth, reality, morality and absolutes into lawless balloon animals, which are very fragile, unstable and very vulnerable.

Sadly it is the way of this fallen world that lawlessness will ALWAYS triumph (Rom. 1:18-32), if not in one great victory, then in slow creeping incremental advances. The world is presently on course to the Day of Lawlessness that will be under Satan's Anti Christ (2 Thess. 2:3-12, Rev. 13) Humanity is fallen and is always susceptible to the sensual attraction of the vices, desires and transgressions which exalt themselves against the RIGHTEOUS spiritual, natural and physical absolutes for time and for ETERNITY established by our Creator (Gen. 1:31, Matt. 15:16-20, Rom. 7, Eph. 2:2-3, Gal. 5:19-21).

From a sound biblical position it is not hard to see our nation’s short comings and dire estate. What is at the heart of America’s decline and is the common denominator of the majority of the American people (conservative and liberal) is the rejection of Almighty God's ETERNAL spiritual absolutes and His moral absolutes and principles for time. The ONLY solution for mankind's dilemma is a saving personal relationship to our Creator in SPIRIT and TRUTH through Jesus Christ the RIGHTEOUS who is mankind's propitiation for the wrath of Almighty God (Matt. 7:21-23, 15:7-9, John 4:24, Rom. 10:2-4, Titus 1:16, John 2:2, Jude 1:10).

As we see our nation wither away and see our nation’s social landscape ravished beyond all repair, do not let your hearts be troubled (John 14:1). Do not deceive yourselves in these last days as countless millions are by putting all of your eggs in the basket of the Republican Party or any other political group and future moderate nominee. There is ABSOLUTELY no hope there in saving this sinking titanic from going to the bottom of the sea. America, your ONLY hope is in the Savior of the world. O nations of the world, your ONLY hope is in the Savior of the world (John 3:16-17, Acts 4:12, 16:29-31, Rev. 5:9, 21, 22:1-5). America will not survive and in its collapse we will see a horrific seven year tribulation that will engulf the entire world (Rev. 6-19).

There is ABSOLUTELY NO ESCAPE from what is at the door. These things ALL MUST come to pass as Almighty God’s Word has testified to.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO ESCAPE from what is at the door. These things ALL MUST come to pass as Almighty God’s Word has testified to (Rev. 22:20). My dear friend, have faith in Almighty God and the simplicity of His PERFECT Word (Mark 11:22, Heb. 11:1,6). Believe Him and place ALL your trust in Him for it is in Jesus Christ ALONE that there is EVERLASTING HOPE and FULL ASSURANCE (Acts 4:12, Rom. 1:16, Col. 2:2, 2 Tim. 1:12). Do your part to your fullest as an America in these last days all the while knowing that NOTHING will stop the Day of Lawlessness, the Lord Jesus’ glorious second coming and the establishment of His 1000 year reign in TRUTH and RIGHTEOUSNESS! Be sure to see the BIG PICTURE first my beloved then all will fall into place! The TRUTH will indeed set you free from the bondage and tyranny of Satan and his many faceted straw men, which are set up out there to distract you and to get your eye off of his arch foe, Almighty God (the Savior of the world (John 8:32, 36, 2 Cor. 4:3-4, Col 3:1-4)!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: morality

1 posted on 12/29/2011 6:48:17 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Let's see, Adultery is celebrated rather than abhorred.

Bearing False witness is an Art form, with folks saying, If he does it so can I.

Stealing by the Government is considered Liberalism.

And Coveting is the Be All and End All.

Dear God, Give us Repentance as a Nation and a 180 towards the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 posted on 12/29/2011 6:55:02 AM PST by sr4402
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To: sr4402

My dear friend, that is indeed all our prayers... but the literal Kingdom of Heaven which Almighty God has spoken of is at our door! Rejoice in that and it will keep us all sane.

Thy Kingdom come... Thy will be done!

I.F.


3 posted on 12/29/2011 7:03:14 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Good job Fish - I think that’s the best article I ever seen from you. Keep it up. What you’re describing, I think, is the same thing Paul describes in chapter one of Romans. If society moves away from God then God’s response is to - - let them. He takes away his common grace and “gives over” man to his own inate fleshy desires. The result is an unstoppable downward spiral. God’s wrath on man is to give man what he wants. And the consequences that go with this. We are seeing it play out before our very eyes in every detail.


4 posted on 12/29/2011 7:04:57 AM PST by circlecity
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Excellent post.


5 posted on 12/29/2011 7:06:09 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Ping for later reading. (This looks comforting-I want to be able to give it my full attention....)


6 posted on 12/29/2011 7:22:13 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

God speed!


7 posted on 12/29/2011 7:24:14 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Excellent article. Our Constitution is based on Moral Absolutes. That is what our Judicial system has rejected-—yet it is in all jurisprudence up until the 50’s.
Since our Natural Rights come from God—there has to be Objective Truth and that comes from Revelation—been mentioned by our Supreme Court numerous times that “we are a Christian nation”.

People need to understand that John Dewey threw out Moral Absolutes from our school system by the 1930’s. He replaced it with moral relativism. That was done in our Judicial system also-—inching in moral relativism and removal of moral law by Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

This is not an accident—it was intentional to destroy the two pillars of Western Civilization (by the Cultural Marxists): Christianity and the Natural Family.

You destroy the Ethics and Virtue, which made this country great—and you destroy the family, which destroys the children and their children. It is exponential. Theodore Dalrymple, the prison psychiatrist, wrote about the destruction of morality of England by the destruction of the family (welfare) and the vulgarization of the media and destruction of education and morality in the schools.

The media was taken over by Kinsey, Hugh Hefner and The Beats in the 50’s (forced in Universities as they kicked out the Classics which taught Duty, Justice, Temperance, etc. So, Cultural Marxism (moral relativism) was inserted into all public school curricula—that generation of brainwashed kids created the sexual revolution—nothing but mass conformity to “one way” of thinking—the moral relativist, godless way.

We need to bring back God and Moral Absolutes and Virtue. Virtue is necessary for happiness. All the Founders understood that simple truth.


8 posted on 12/29/2011 8:02:22 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

Exactly SS!! Glad you see it!

I.F.


9 posted on 12/29/2011 8:25:28 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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I had a Nigerian Philosophy professor who asked the kids if they believed in Moral Absolutes. Only three people did (I was one). He went on to explain that in societies with moral relativism—you get chaos-—there is no Right and Wrong. It is like having a basketball game with everyone on the team making up their own rules. You just get fights and arguments and never get any game played to the finish.

Economies are like that. It needs set rules and trust. People in civil societies have to be able to trust other human beings. You can’t, if they do not believe in Moral Absolutes.

There was a Russian who stated that Marxism destroyed trust between all human beings—between mothers and children, men and women, neighbors, etc. (Witakker Chambers wrote about it in Witness).

If you look at schools—that is what they are doing—destroying trust—not only between the races and classes, but schools belittle parents and their ideology—even Al Gore undermined parents—telling kids that they knew more than their parents. Hitler did exactly the same.

Destroy trust and you create fear because you isolate people. And people then cling to government, instead of people. Government manipulates people by creating “fear” and they get the masses doing what they want. Mob psychology. Lenin was close to Pavlov.

A belief in God—gives hope and trust and removes fear. It is the opium of Marxism and the reason for meaningful, productive lives. God is why America was the greatest and freest and most successful government on earth in the history of the world.


10 posted on 12/29/2011 8:56:41 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

wow... thanks for sharing that with me and you are right on.
It is a consumiong dragon.
Eph. 6:12


11 posted on 12/29/2011 9:48:25 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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