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Church Nativity scene with gay figures vandalized
AP via SFGate ^ | 12/29/11

Posted on 12/29/2011 4:48:08 PM PST by SmithL

CLAREMONT, Calif. (AP) -- Southern California authorities are investigating vandalism of a church's Nativity display that includes depictions of gay and lesbian couples.

The damage at Claremont United Methodist Church occurred late Saturday or Sunday morning.

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Claremont police Sgt. Jason Walters tells the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin it's a hate crime.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; methodists; nativityscene; protestant; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2011

1 posted on 12/29/2011 4:48:13 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

when will the day come that those miserable, pitiful brats have pushed too far?


2 posted on 12/29/2011 4:51:58 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: SmithL

Anyone want to bet a queer did this, just so they can invent a phony “hate crime” to scream about??


3 posted on 12/29/2011 4:58:22 PM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: SmithL
Church Nativity scene with gay figures vandalized

FALSE "church" commits blasphemy and vandalizes Nativity scene; Samaritan topples abominable depiction. FIXED IT.

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!? Isaiah 5:20 KJV

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 18:22 KJV

"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches." Revelations 2:29 KJV

4 posted on 12/29/2011 5:01:31 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: SmithL

Hey United Methodists in San Fran......GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!!


5 posted on 12/29/2011 5:02:26 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SmithL

I hate fag, gay and lesbian Nativity displays too but I didn’t damage or steal one.

Is that a crime?


6 posted on 12/29/2011 5:04:20 PM PST by RedhairRedhair (I STILL love my (scab made) Toyota)
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To: SmithL

Undoubtedly the atheists. :-)


7 posted on 12/29/2011 5:08:44 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: madmaximus

“Anyone want to bet a queer did this, just so they can invent a phony “hate crime” to scream about??”

By George, I think you’ve got it!


8 posted on 12/29/2011 5:09:14 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Ann Archy

You are correct, but this bit of heresy came from Southern California, in the LA area.


9 posted on 12/29/2011 5:09:34 PM PST by SmithL (If you reward certain behavior, don't be surprised if you see more of that behavior)
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To: SmithL

Claremont already has a history of staged hate crime.


10 posted on 12/29/2011 5:15:53 PM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: little jeremiah; wagglebee

PING!


11 posted on 12/29/2011 5:15:56 PM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: SmithL

Good!


12 posted on 12/29/2011 5:21:42 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: SmithL

How can you have a hate crime against statues? Were their widdo feelings hurt?


13 posted on 12/29/2011 5:33:24 PM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: SmithL

Claremont is the home to Commie Grannies and the 5 Claremont Colleges. It is as liberal as they come, and then some. Leave it to Claremont to have a sodomist Nativity scene in front of a church.


14 posted on 12/29/2011 5:35:18 PM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: All

Before and after pictures here...

http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_19627389


15 posted on 12/29/2011 5:41:26 PM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Beowulf9

Queer?? Do you mean Sodomite?? I think you do, The correct and proper english language for their behavior pattern is SODOMITE.


16 posted on 12/29/2011 5:42:25 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok
The correct and proper english language for their behavior pattern is SODOMITE.

You have to be careful with that term. Minnesota had, and some states still have, sodomy laws which outlaw activity not uncommon between married, Christian, heterosexual couples.

17 posted on 12/29/2011 5:58:54 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: madmaximus
Yes, they needed attention and nobody cared before this.
I didn't care then or now about this adolescent stunt.
18 posted on 12/29/2011 6:13:34 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: SmithL

Oh, Mary, that musht have been a fabouloush dishplay!


19 posted on 12/29/2011 6:18:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
In one sentence they call it a hate crime, then they call it art.
Can hate crimes be committed against bad art?
20 posted on 12/29/2011 6:19:33 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: SmithL
"...Nativity display that includes depictions of gay and lesbian couples."

What, no sheep and their lovers?

Claremont police Sgt. Jason Walters tells the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin it's a hate crime.

I'm guessing the Sgt. is a fellow fudge packer.

21 posted on 12/29/2011 6:24:35 PM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: deks
His wife, Anita, said she and her husband "expect controversy. We want to cause people to think and consider that a blue-eyed baby Jesus is not everyone's idea of God."

First, it isn't a Nativity Scene.

Nativity, as the name implies, is associated with the place, circumstances, and time of a birth. The display were three sets of adult couple silhouettes, one a man and woman, another of two men, and another of two women (or so the silhouettes appear).

Somebody toppled the two same-sex silhouettes, which might have been caused by any number of reasons, including wind.

The accusers are claiming over $3000 in damages, but that isn't apparent from the photographs.

Additionally, the time of the alleged incident could not be tied down to closer than 11am XMAS eve and 9am XMAS Sunday at a Church.

The inability to place a time on the incident on XMAS and XMAS eve at a Church seems to speak volumes to their true devotion, along with the above quote.

Who knows, maybe it was supernaturally caused by demons. Even demons have morals.

22 posted on 12/29/2011 6:34:31 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: SmithL

You can’t do that to characters dressed fabulously for flair and sparkle!


23 posted on 12/29/2011 6:45:11 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SmithL

Vandalism is bad, mmkay?

Having said that...

1. Calling that display a nativity scene is absolutely absurd.

2. Saying those panels sustained three thousand dollars damage strikes me as crossing over the line that separates “that’s absurd” from “that’s a lie, and it’s an absurd lie at that”. I flatly doubt you could cause three grand worth of damage to those things if you burnt the suckers.

3. I hate to monger stereotypes (well, normally), but they interviewed the lady pastor on camera, and she looks pretty much exactly what you’d expect the middle-aged lady pastor of a church that would put that display out front to look like. Ah, the female clergy...where even the straight ones look lesbian.

4. Dear Claremont UMC: The Seventies called. They want those silhouettes back.


24 posted on 12/29/2011 7:07:02 PM PST by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon... and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: RichInOC
For the past six years, church member and artist John Zachary has designed and built a scene on the church's front lawn. The scene has had controversial themes before, but this was the first about gay couples.

Zachary said the artwork suffered at least $3,000 worth of damage. The exhibit had three panels that weighed 600 pounds each.

His wife, Anita, said she and her husband "expect controversy. We want to cause people to think and consider that a blue-eyed baby Jesus is not everyone's idea of God."

Anita Zachary said she was upset by what she perceived as a lack of community outrage.

"I want to believe Claremont is a rather liberal community ... that's what's most upsetting is that people aren't outraged. My opinion is just that the community doesn't seem to put its money where its mouth is."



Expecting controversy....upset by lack of outrage...

Yup...all the mixin's of a staged hate crime here. Sounds like they tried to get attention with their display in the first place...and when no one took the bate, created some of their own.
25 posted on 12/29/2011 7:27:22 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: SmithL; xzins
These guys are going way tooo far. Everything is about their sexuality, everything boils down to that -- it's like Freud gone mad


26 posted on 12/30/2011 2:27:29 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Cronos

Our west coast regions are notoriously liberal, but they are also very, very small in terms of membership.

At the same time, though, their bishops are of the same mind as most of our US bishops, with the exception of some of the southern bishops.

It is our overseas bishops + some southern bishops who are keeping this denomination from going apostate overnight.

I don’t see a happy future with the UMC. It is as likely to lose its candlestick as to keep it.


27 posted on 12/30/2011 4:10:43 AM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: Cronos
So, where is the Christ Child?

Are they really claiming THIS to be a Nativity Scene????

28 posted on 12/30/2011 4:19:59 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: xzins

That is sad, and I have argued in the past that it is better to stick within the UMC and fight it out and save it from sinking, but this “nativity scene” just about changes my mind — at least that community there is no more than a liberal “get-together” — there is no Christ-child, but gay-couples holding hands....


29 posted on 12/30/2011 5:39:07 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Cronos

“Come out of her, my people...” - Rev 18:4


30 posted on 12/30/2011 5:48:19 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: deks
I look at the silhouettes of the two girls and am reminded,”It isn't like in the movies.” And since they are silhouettes, how do we know they are not walking AWAY from Jesus?
31 posted on 12/30/2011 9:02:59 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SmithL
There may be a precedent for this kind of event:

1 Samuel 5:1-4
"After the Philistines had captured the ark of God, they took it from Ebenezer to Ashdod. Then they carried the ark into Dagon’s temple and set it beside Dagon. When the people of Ashdod rose early the next day, there was Dagon, fallen on his face on the ground before the ark of the LORD! They took Dagon and put him back in his place. But the following morning when they rose, there was Dagon, fallen on his face on the ground before the ark of the LORD! His head and hands had been broken off and were lying on the threshold; only his body remained."

32 posted on 12/30/2011 10:14:19 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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