Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Two men for every three women? [Utah social ratios enough to re-institute polygamy?]
Mormon Coffee (MRM.org) ^ | Dec. 19, 2011 | Eric Johnson

Posted on 01/01/2012 4:51:53 PM PST by Colofornian

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-154 next last
To: Ransomed

Long ago all marriage was a religious ceremony, and then at some time legal marriage was brought forth to establish inheritance (even now the law says if you are married when a child is born, the child belongs to the father - period), then marriage evolved for tax issues.
I suppose one could argue that marriage should have never been part of a government arrangement or preview.
If the tax laws eliminated marriage as a tax issue, and people were taxed on their own income, what sort of change would happen? Just questions, give me a glass of wine and I ask....;-)


21 posted on 01/01/2012 5:52:52 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Colofornian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSS5xujeRaY


22 posted on 01/01/2012 5:55:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Scoutmaster

I see yer video and raise you one audio!


23 posted on 01/01/2012 5:58:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: dagogo redux
When I pointed out that I was not a Mormon, she answered with a twitter, “Oh, but you will be by the time one of them gets her hooks in you!”

Sounds like Glenn Beck's story!

24 posted on 01/01/2012 5:59:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Talisker
No one in 1776 would ever even think of allowing the government to be on control of marriage.

Or even SUSPECT that someday that same 'government' would FORCE you to support BASTARDY in this country!

25 posted on 01/01/2012 6:01:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Colofornian
They WE pay the bills for failed families.

Take back the language!

26 posted on 01/01/2012 6:02:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Scoutmaster; Psalm 144

Utah will override any state constitutional provisions if other states start allowing it and possibly would do so before to be the first state to legalize it.


27 posted on 01/01/2012 6:08:19 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Colofornian

Send all the surplus women to North Dakota. I read that they’ve got a shortage up there.


28 posted on 01/01/2012 6:10:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed!!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dagogo redux

That is funny. I have 8 kids and three bedrooms. Oldest is 14 so I am not sure how number of bedrooms has anything to do with it but I am sure that perception is %120 of most opinions. I am not Mormon and no where near it.


29 posted on 01/01/2012 6:15:00 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: svcw

A recent poll has 40% of folks thinking marriage comes from man and thus the state. Many more have been conditioned to think that marriage is whatever the state says it can be, it comes on little pieces of paper that say so.

Which the homosexualists and statists love, because no way would so many buy into the impossibility of “gay marriage” without the disaster the state has made of the institution in recent times. Once the state got involved, at least in the modern era, marriage was at the whim of whatever most folks think it happens to be at the time, at least as far as the state is concerned. Generally the more one looks to their faith, the less likely it is for them to buy into things like “gay marriage.”

Freegards


30 posted on 01/01/2012 6:19:57 PM PST by Ransomed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Ransomed

There are places in the bible that talk of Marriage as second best to chastity. Should we take that seriously and shun those that get married??

If you choose to get married then great for you. I personally don’t think that the government should be in the business of saying who gets married. The government (men) should not be dictating jack sh!t, when it comes to religious affairs. So my take is that Government dictating marriage is bad, dumb asses wanting to marry other dumb asses is bad.

Look, they are the same in many aspects.


31 posted on 01/01/2012 6:31:28 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Elsie
They WE pay the bills for failed families. Take back the language!

Excellent point. My oversight.

32 posted on 01/01/2012 6:37:47 PM PST by Colofornian (Martyrs don't die in shootouts Sacrificial lambs aren't armed J. Smith fired 1 of 2 guns as he died)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Psalm 144
Forgive me for not being impressed with such safeguards.

I'm not impressed with them. Polygamy is actively practiced in both Utah and Arizona. There are cities that are known polygamist strongholds, where members of law enforcement are polygamists.

And the official website of Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff notes that although polygamy is illegal in Utah (he conveniently forgets to point out that it's prohibited by the Utah Constitution) and against the constitution in Arizona (and against the law in Arizona, which isn't mentioned), he says that law enforcement in both states have decided simply to concentrate on welfare fraud and child abuse. Translation? We're not going to enforce polygamy laws (that would be embarrassing to the LDS Church, because LDS members have to keep on explaining history and how these groups are different from mainstream Mormons). And there are members of the LDS church who are polygamists. It's still a part of their doctrine - Doctrine & Covenants 132 to be precise - despite the 1890 and 1904 Manifestos.

33 posted on 01/01/2012 6:39:55 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: cloudmountain
When you have a few men and lots of women, THAT is a cult. Jim Jones had about the same ratio

Same thing with the Christian Science cult.

LOTS & LOTS & LOTS of elderly women. (It's a dying cult)

34 posted on 01/01/2012 6:40:27 PM PST by Colofornian (Martyrs don't die in shootouts Sacrificial lambs aren't armed J. Smith fired 1 of 2 guns as he died)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Scoutmaster

Interesting. A very complex and organized subculture. I did not know that polygamous households were still around in such numbers.

There has to be a great deal of paranoia and alienation directed towards the non-Mormon culture out there, be it Hollywood, Dixie, Midwestern or Yankee - whatever the ‘gentile’ cultural base. It does not sound like a comfortable place to be. Besieged from the outside, driven from the inside, and so many in house details to keep quiet.


35 posted on 01/01/2012 6:54:07 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Psalm 144
I did not know that polygamous households were still around in such numbers.

And if the older men in those communities need young women as wives, imagine what happens when the young men reach an age that they present a threat to the men as possible romantic interests? They are outcast, with no belongings and no real education. They're called 'lost boys." There's been a documentary made about them. There are charities to deal with them. Here's one.

36 posted on 01/01/2012 7:00:11 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Colofornian

I heard a rumor(?) that the young men were kicked out of the church to keep the ratio of women high. THAT makes sense. the older men do not want any competition. Are there any Chinese LDS groups? Just wondering.


37 posted on 01/01/2012 7:03:49 PM PST by huldah1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dagogo redux

Well, did you become a Mormon or not


38 posted on 01/01/2012 7:04:45 PM PST by Krankor ( spare time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Psalm 144

I thought I had canceled it. Wasn’t too sure it would have been accepted but I guess I hit the wrong button.


39 posted on 01/01/2012 7:41:24 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


40 posted on 01/01/2012 7:44:17 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-154 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson