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Satan is the Prince of the World
2012 | BibleTruth

Posted on 01/01/2012 8:41:47 PM PST by bibletruth

Satan is the Prince of the World

Satan's scheme and his policy as the prince of the world is to hinder God's intentions.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: godofthisworld; princeoftheworld; satan
Satan's scheme and his policy as the prince of the world is to hinder God's intentions. God declared His plan for repossession the ream in heaven but Satan's plan of evil was to usurped the realm and take up the positions in the heavens and occupy the thrones and Satan declared his plan to usurped that realm throne by being like the most High. In order for Satan to succeed with his plan of evil now, he would first need to overcome God's plan for the repossession of the earth. Satan's plan is to govern the principle of operations in the heavens and try to occupy the thrones that God had set up. Satan's plan to govern is materialized as he affects the administration, national defense international trade, immigration, territory laws, citizens rights, land rights, etc. Satan runs this as a foreign policy and achieves this by strong influence over all affairs of nations, cities, municipality, community, etc. That is why the course of this world is filled with sin and lies and wars and murder and illness and sickness: everything that is evil which God never planned for this earth, but Satan is the god of this world and as that god, he, Satan has failed to managed this earth. If Satan was out of his role as the god of this world, then God and Christ Jesus would rule it with a rod of iron and peace. More to come...
1 posted on 01/01/2012 8:41:55 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

If he really is the prince of this world, shouldn’t we worship him while we are in/on this world?

If not, why not?


2 posted on 01/01/2012 8:49:10 PM PST by null and void (Day 1076 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: bibletruth

How can God, being all good, allow anything like a Satan to exist?


3 posted on 01/01/2012 8:53:40 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: null and void

If you are not worshipping God, you ARE worshipping Satan. You are giving your heart, soul, mind, strength to this world, to this life, to what you put your hands to, to your own understanding. And the god of this world (Satan) rejoices.


4 posted on 01/01/2012 9:01:59 PM PST by MarDav
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To: OldNavyVet

In before ZOT!


5 posted on 01/01/2012 9:02:02 PM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: null and void

# John 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32 (in Context) John 12 (Whole Chapter)

# John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
John 14:29-31 (in Context) John 14 (Whole Chapter)

# John 16:11
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
John 16:10-12 (in Context) John 16 (Whole Chapter)

# Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Ephesians 2:1-3 (in Context) Ephesians 2 (Whole Chapter)

# 2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Corinthians 4:3-5 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 4 (Whole Chapter)


6 posted on 01/01/2012 9:02:09 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: bibletruth
Why doesn't G*D answer to me personally at the time and place I demand since I'm entitled ...

... then again, perhaps I still realise I'm not the center of the universe.

7 posted on 01/01/2012 9:06:23 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: bibletruth

8 posted on 01/01/2012 9:25:16 PM PST by garjog
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To: OldNavyVet

Because God created duality. Everything ...EVERYTHING has an opposite.In addition who says something is EVIL?

If you were in a car crash and had a broken foot , you would think evil had befallen you until you talked to a guy who lost his whole family in a car wreck.He would beg to differ on who evil came to.


9 posted on 01/01/2012 9:27:03 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: bibletruth

” It is so stupid of modern civilization to have given up believing in the devil, when he is the only explanation of it.”

Ronald Knox, English Theologian

“Satan must of been pretty simple even according to the New Testament, or he wouldn’t of led Christ up on a high mountain and offered him the world if he would fall down and worship him. That was a manifestly absurd proposition,....It is as if someone would try to buy Rockefeller, the owner of all the Standard Oil Company, with a gallon of kerosene.”

Mark Twain.

I like these quotes for considering the state of the world the devil is as good an explanation as any, and a not very bright Devil at that.


10 posted on 01/01/2012 9:44:45 PM PST by dog breath
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To: OldNavyVet

CS Lewis writes extensively on that issue. It would never be easy for someone to answer such a deep philosophical question like that on a blog. It has been argued for thousands of years and quite successfully by Lewis.


11 posted on 01/01/2012 9:50:03 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature=Just Law.)
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To: savagesusie

Really? Someone has asked this question and examined answers for it before “OldNavyVet”?

/sarc


12 posted on 01/01/2012 9:53:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: garjog

Hey, those are the evening Illinois lottery Pick 3 numbers the day after he got elected (November 5, 2008)

http://www.illinoislottery.com/subsections/History/Win2008.htm

Not saying he is the guy, it was just weirdorama when it happened


13 posted on 01/01/2012 10:00:11 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: bibletruth

Satan actually works with,not against,G-d. Satan cannot do anything without G-d’s “green light”. In fact,Satan and the devil are two different entities.

Only G-d can have authority and power. Not Satan,not the devil,no one.

The references to Satan can be found in Jobs,Chronicles,Psalms and Zechariah. See Job 2:3-6,Zech.3:1-2 and Psalm 109:6-7.

Here are some very important verses from Isaiah which prove that G-d is the only one with power and authority:

I am the Eternal,and there is none else,there is no god beside me: I girded thee,though thou hast not known Me:That they may know the rising of the sun,and from the west,that there is none beside Me.I am the Eternal and there is none else.I form the light,and create darkness:I make peace and create evil: I the Eternal do all these things.[Isaiah 45:5-7].

The idea that Satan has G-d’s power and authority is not monotheism. It would mean that there is more than one G-d and there is not. Only G-d is G-d. Not Satan,not the devil,not a man,etc.


14 posted on 01/01/2012 10:44:28 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: OldNavyVet
How can God, being all good, allow anything like a Satan to exist?

Answer: THEODICY. The Problem of Pain (C.S. Lewis). It's been discussed (and an answer known) for 1,800+ years.

Funny thing is, people always believe it's a good question of first impression, that it's never been asked before. ;)

15 posted on 01/01/2012 11:45:29 PM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: F15Eagle

Or the fact that Chicagos zip is 60606. Hmmm


16 posted on 01/02/2012 5:00:06 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: F15Eagle

Or the fact that Chicagos zip is 60606. Hmmm


17 posted on 01/02/2012 5:00:14 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: dog breath

Twain knew the difference between “of” and “have.”


18 posted on 01/02/2012 6:28:53 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: OldNavyVet

The same question applies to allowing humans to contnue to exist. Noah’s flood was such a response.


19 posted on 01/02/2012 6:32:50 AM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: BykrBayb

True. That was not the one of his house but I think you are right, that is a zip code there in Chicago.


20 posted on 01/02/2012 6:47:31 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Oops that was meant to you.


21 posted on 01/02/2012 8:20:57 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: BykrBayb

Yeah I noticed that, too.


22 posted on 01/02/2012 8:24:57 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
God is not a God of evil – rather, our God has permitted Satan to influence all the affairs of nations, cities, municipality, community, etc. This is clear because the present course of this world is filled with sin, wars, murder, illness and sickness, etc.

Satan is the Adversary. Satan does not work WITH God – he works against God as the Adversary. God permits this, but this work and plan of Satan is not God's plan. God forbid!

Furthermore, scripture clearly shows that God permitted Satan to blind the minds of people. This demonstrates how strong an evil influence Satan has on the world and its people.

II Corinthians 4:4: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

In this passage Satan is referred to the god of this world. However, this is a title that Paul gives Satan in view of the fact that the true God is presently withholding the day of his wrath upon Satan's plan of evil in this world. Satan is not God, nor is he 'a god'. Nevertheless, the language Paul is using to describe Satan as the one engaged and propagating false gospels and 'other gospels' and blinding the mind to obscure the 'light of the glorious gospel of Christ' and distort the grace that 'shine unto them' from God's grace.

23 posted on 01/02/2012 9:01:55 AM PST by bibletruth
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To: OldNavyVet
"How can God, being all good, allow anything like a Satan to exist?"

Because He believes in Choice, Liberty and Freedom.

Do you believe that humans are capable of valuing freedom, but God is not?

24 posted on 01/02/2012 9:04:42 AM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: sauron
THEODICY. The Problem of Pain (C.S. Lewis). It's been discussed (and an answer known) for 1,800+ years.

Good catch! The word theodicy is in the dictionary, and defined as ... "a system of natural theology aimed at seeking to vindicate devine justice in allowing evil to exist."

In looking that word up, I also looked for the word "idioticy" and it wasn't there; but "idiosyncrasy" was, and that's defined as "the temperament or mental constitution peculiar to a person or group."

Regarding the words ... "(and an answer known) for 1,800+ years," our God-given planet Earth has been around for 4.6 billion years.

25 posted on 01/02/2012 9:19:26 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: bibletruth

G-d creates all things,including evil. It’s difficult to understand but G-d made it very clear that He is the Creator of all things and that no one shares His power and authority. That includes Satan,or HaSatan which means “The Satan”. We Jews do not believe Satan has any power equal to that of G-d. Giving G-d’s power and authority to another being violates the idea of monotheism. There were pagan religions who believed in a god who was in a constant struggle with an evil entity from the underworld.

When the messiah comes all the evils of the world will disappear. There will be no more war,famine,illnesses,etc. Clearly the messiah has not come. There will be peace on earth which has obviously not happened.

As I stated,only G-d has control. Satan,who esentially acts as a prosecutor like you’d see in a courtroom,cannot do a thing without G-d’s go-ahead. No one can work against G-d. The Satan you “believe in” is not the Satan we Jews “believe in”. When I say “Believe in” I mean the view of.


26 posted on 01/02/2012 9:15:10 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: dog breath

“Satan must of been pretty simple even according to the New Testament, or he wouldn’t of led Christ up on a high mountain and offered him the world if he would fall down and worship him.”

The most important part of this passage is what Christ did NOT say: “It is not yours to give”.


27 posted on 01/03/2012 2:35:21 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: bibletruth

Did you know satan means “prosecutor”?


28 posted on 01/06/2012 5:00:39 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: MarDav

How can satan (Which means “prosecutor” in Hebrew) be the god of this world?

There is only ONE G-d and that’s the G-d of the Torah.

To say that satan has G-d’s power is polytheism,not monotheism.

G-d created this world so it is not totally evil.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 5:04:19 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: bibletruth
"Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from THIS PRESENT EVIL WORLD, according to the will of God and our Father:" Gal. 1:4.
30 posted on 01/06/2012 5:09:26 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
You may believe that Satan is only a prosecutor. But let's look at the verse in 1 Peter 5:8 and see that Satan the Devil is called an adversary who is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Does a prosecutor drive so hard like a roaring lion seeking to devour? Your prosecutor model simply does not sound like only a prosecutor when we consider this verse which clearly teaches us that Satan the Adversary is much more than simply a prosecutor? In fact, Rev 12:10 highlights Satan more accurately in light of the prosecutor role, which he does perform IN heaven BEFORE God, falsely accusing Christian day and night.

1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your ADVERSARY the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Revelation 12:10 ...for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

So maybe your word etymology is the only consideration for word meaning, but sometimes that approach fails to take into consideration the CONTEXT of the topic. In proper Biblical analysis - context reigns supreme to word usage, individual words do not stand outside of context, but must be within contextual meaning.

31 posted on 01/06/2012 11:15:22 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

I go only according to Torah so any verses from the Christian Bible have no meaning to me.

The Christian view of Satan has been taken out of context from the Hebrew Scriptures.

Do the research and you will discover that Satan DOES mean prosecutor.

The devil and Hell are pagan ideas,as is the idea that G-d has an adversary of similar powers and authority.


32 posted on 01/07/2012 2:06:24 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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