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There is only ONE true Church
Bible | 33-90 AD | God Christ Jesus Apostle Paul

Posted on 01/14/2012 8:23:15 PM PST by bibletruth

In the present dispensation there is only ONE true Church, which is called the Body of Christ separate and distinct from the prophesied, earthly kingdom of Christ vested in redeemed National Israel as a called-out nation or church, assembly or congregation, above all other nations.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: onebodyofchrist; onetruechurch
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To: bibletruth; boatbums
The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. – Psalms 12:6-7

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it. - Isaiah 55:11

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. - Matthew 5:18

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. – Deuteronomy 4:2

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

101 posted on 01/14/2012 10:20:30 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverbluffer
However, the debate we are having seems to focus on history, and history cannot be denied, only interpreted. The “history” of the Church is recorded, documented, and actual and did not start to change until “MAN” changed it during the Protestant revolution.

The "debate" is about the Biblical truth that there is ONLY one church - but NOT the kind you seem to associate with that word. The Body of Christ, the church - which is the called out assembly - consists of all those who have received Jesus Christ, believed on him and been born again into the family of God. They have also been indwelt with the Holy Spirit - who God gives to all who have received Christ. That Holy Spirit is called the "earnest of our inheritance" which means we are sealed with the stamp of belonging to God and he indwells those that are his.

This "history" that you are so confident of is not as cut and dried as you have been led to believe. The Reformation came about precisely because the Catholic Church had left the orthodox faith found in Scripture especially that we are saved by grace through faith apart from works. I can provide you with many links to scholarly articles explaining what happened and you SHOULD know the truth. This link will take you to some of those articles. You owe it to yourself to know what is the truth and not just rely on others to tell you what it is. The link is http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2010/04/historical-roots-of-reformation-and.html. God bless you.

102 posted on 01/14/2012 10:20:54 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: neverbluffer

Im going to drop a bombshell on you...

I am not Catholic!!!!

You kept posting under the assumption that I was defencing “my church”...

I am just defending what is historically correct!


103 posted on 01/14/2012 10:22:37 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

There was a horrible slaughter of the Waldensians that killed the majority of them, but there was a remnant. There is a Waldensian Church in Valdese, NC, a town established by Waldensians. They settled there en masse a little over a century ago, after leaving the Cottian Alps of northern Italy due to ongoing restrictions and persecution against them there.


104 posted on 01/14/2012 10:22:41 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: neverbluffer
I am just defending what is historically correct!

I haven't actually seen anything you've provided other than your own anecdotal statements to back up claims of historicity, while those debating you have cited at least one early church father whose account contradicts that supposed history.

It might be a good thing to provide a credible source to bolster your efforts.

105 posted on 01/14/2012 10:26:44 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: neverbluffer

Where were the doctrines of Purgatory and Penance prior to Gregory I.

Why did Gregory deny He was a Pope?


106 posted on 01/14/2012 10:27:22 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
Thank you, its great to see some here recognize the Paul was sent to the Gentiles by God and Christ Jesus. Grace to you.

Paul first preached to Jews, then throughout Judæa, and then to the Gentiles throughout the Roman world.

Acts 26:20: But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judæa, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

All can learn these truths from Galatians 2:7-9, where Peter perceived the grace that was given unto Paul, and Peter gave his right hand of fellowship to Paul; that Paul should go unto the heathen [Gentiles], and Peter and the other Apostles should go unto the circumcision Jews:

Galatians 2:7: But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Galatians 2:8: (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
Galatians 2:9: And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

107 posted on 01/14/2012 10:27:22 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: Alamo-Girl
Amen! God is who gave us Holy Scripture and it is He who preserves it.

Psalm 119:41-43

Let thy mercies come also unto me, O LORD, even thy salvation, according to thy word.

So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word.

And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments.

108 posted on 01/14/2012 10:29:12 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
Thank you so much for that beautiful Scripture, dear sister in Christ, and thank you for your encouragements!
109 posted on 01/14/2012 10:33:58 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: conservativguy99; bibletruth
You’ll be lucky to make Purgatory.

Luck has nothing to do with it.

It is what Christ has done in our stead and whether we're willing to accept it, that determines our eternal destiny.

110 posted on 01/14/2012 10:38:08 PM PST by Semper Mark (Pray. Vote. Buy ammo.)
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To: Cvengr

I believe, not 100% sure, that was in the book of maccabees, one of those 7 books that were thrown out by Protestants that still remain in the Catholic Bible.

Purgatory is not specifically mentioned, but it does decribe a “place” for atonement which came to ne known as Purgatory.

I believe Purgatory derives from the word “purge”


111 posted on 01/14/2012 10:39:26 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Markos33

I agree with that statement...


112 posted on 01/14/2012 10:42:50 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: RegulatorCountry

Credible source would be the Bible itself....


113 posted on 01/14/2012 10:47:41 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Salvation
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Yes! Christ changed his name to Rock which is what Peter means in the original language. Also taking quotes from a letter written before Peter went to Rome does not mean much. The letter was written for the time it was written at least unless for something that stands for all time.

He went to Rome after the letter which is put in the whole New Testament many years after the fact of Both(Peter's whole life and the time it was written.)

But by this logic we can say they never went to the bathroom because it is never fully discussed or written. And if they wrote about it once does that prove everybody did it conclusivel? LOL!!

BUT When We think any little dot and nuance can be figured from the Bible Alone is like this

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114 posted on 01/14/2012 10:53:03 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: conservativguy99

No he did not Constantine did.


115 posted on 01/14/2012 10:54:34 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: neverbluffer

Yes.


116 posted on 01/14/2012 10:55:38 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“while those debating you have cited at least one early church father whose account contradicts that supposed history”

If you are referring to Pope Gregory never denied his Papacy? That is a matter left for interpretation, and interpreted by Non Catholics as a crutch to debunk Papal Succession...


117 posted on 01/14/2012 10:56:00 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Salvation; johngrace

Peter=The Rock! Always was and always will be! It is Scripture too.


118 posted on 01/14/2012 10:56:27 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: neverbluffer

That Peter was the first Pope? Well, no. The word “Pope” does not appear in the Bible. “The rock” in every other instance has a specific meaning that does not refer to either the Pope, Peter or the Catholic Church. You’ve been provided a cite from one of your own early church fathers, contradicting the claim that Peter was the first Pope.

It would be very helpful to your case for there to be some authoritative, period documentation or early reference that validates the claim. Thus far you’ve provided none.

I’d suspect, myself, that the Apostles and early Christians as a whole would be horrified at the suggestion that a man given the Roman imperial title, “Pontifex Maximus,” a title borne by Nero, Caesar and Caligula, would ever become the titular head of all their different churches.


119 posted on 01/14/2012 10:58:15 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Constantine re-inforced and introduced Chritianity into Roman life, he was not the founder of the Catholic Church!

The Church has been around in an official form since the first century, I dont think Constantine was born yet?


120 posted on 01/14/2012 11:00:03 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: neverbluffer
I refer to post #84.

Irenaeus: "The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric. . . . . To this Clement there succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus; then, sixth from the apostles, Sixtus, was appointed; after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred; then Hyginus; after him, Pius; then after him, Anicetus. Sorer having succeeded Anicetus, Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the apostles, hold the inheritance of the episcopate. In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the truth, have come down to us. And this is most abundant proof that there is one and the same vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the Church from the apostles until now, and handed down in truth (SOURCE: Iraeneus Against Heresies, Volume I, Book III, Para 3)

121 posted on 01/14/2012 11:04:45 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

That is your interpretation.

The word POPE comes from the latin “Papa” which means Father and/or Spiritual Leader.

You are confusing everything that you think should or should not be noted in the Bible, with “language”

Not everything regarding various religious “sectarian” belief, doctrine, or traditions will be found in the Bible.


122 posted on 01/14/2012 11:10:32 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: RegulatorCountry

Once again, you are pointing to scripture that favors your point of view, but seem to discredit the ones that detract from your point of view.

That is why there exists so many demoninations....


123 posted on 01/14/2012 11:12:01 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: CynicalBear
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So You use Early Church fathers Did you read This!

Augistine of Hippo:

Letter 53 (A.D. 400) For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: “Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!”

The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: — Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius..

Notice “successor of Peter”.

Just like We know the Presidents of the United States from Washington so Did St. Augustine 300 years later know the successor of Peter.

124 posted on 01/14/2012 11:13:15 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: conservativguy99; bibletruth

***Its name is the Catholic Church, founded by Jesus Christ.***

Now wait a minute! I read years ago that the first PROTESTANT CHURCH was the CATHOLICS when they left the TRUE CHURCH, the ORTHODOX.

But the Catholics also make the same claim that the orthodox left the “True Church”.

Wish they would get it straight!


125 posted on 01/14/2012 11:13:18 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( P!$$ on the Taliban)
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To: neverbluffer

Please recall that you’re the one who is citing the Bible as your source for Peter being the first Pope, not me.


126 posted on 01/14/2012 11:14:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: neverbluffer
Once again, you are pointing to scripture that favors your point of view, but seem to discredit the ones that detract from your point of view.

I pointed to no scripture in the response you're referencing, I pointed to a reply on this thread, #84, that contained a cite from "Against Heresies" by Irenaeus, which refutes your contention that Peter was the first Pope.

Please pay closer attention to whom and to what you're responding. It'll save you a lot of confusion.

127 posted on 01/14/2012 11:19:05 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I generalized the quote, I did not cite verbatim....

I am not Catholic so I have no horse in this race. However, there were no other formal Christian religions or “organizations” for those that like that word that were in existence. All the other Christian religions spawned off of Catholicism.

Regardless of whether or not Christians believe in the authenticity of the Catholic Church, all Christians should be respectful since it was the Catholic Church that saved “scriptures”, it was the Catholic Church that prevented the spread of Islam over Christianity, and it would be a very different world today if the Catholic Church were not in existence.


128 posted on 01/14/2012 11:26:45 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Salvation

Says who???.... The Catholic church??? That is NOT what MY Bible says....

Belive you this, there will be NO denominations in heaven just sinners saved by the grace of God! I don’t think I will see the Pope at the right hand of God, but rather the Lamb that was slain!


129 posted on 01/14/2012 11:27:01 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: conservativguy99
AMEN!!!! I have no beef with Catholics have have come to a personal relationship with Christ by accepting what He, and He alone, did on the cross as atonement for their sins once and forever, but I have a SERIOUS problem with many teachings and practices of the Catholic denomination just as I have a problem with the modern UMC and ELCA.
130 posted on 01/14/2012 11:33:23 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: Salvation
Protestant churches are so divided again and again, in fact. When it comes to Holy — I don’t think so when

There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside Thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

then I suggest you go back and read your Bible again.

I suggest you stick with your catechism until you “Receive the Holy Spirit.”

"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Cor 2:14
131 posted on 01/14/2012 11:35:35 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: RegulatorCountry

Thanks for the update. Nice to know a very small remnant survived. They were all over southern France, northern Italy and Switzerland. All serious historians now agree that the Waldensian movement began in Lyons about 1170. The Inquisition was also used against the church’s other opponents. A 1500 year red vestment wearing Taliban telling you what you can and can’t believe.


132 posted on 01/14/2012 11:39:20 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: RegulatorCountry; neverbluffer
No it does not. It just did not include every person specifically from the beginning. It depends on what subject it was written to declare a main point. You do not take it out of context.

Here is another early Church Father.

Augustine of Hippo:

Letter 53 (A.D. 400) For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: “Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!”

The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: — Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius..

Notice “successor of Peter”.

Just like We know the Presidents of the United States from Washington so Did St. Augustine 300 years later know the successors of Peter.

133 posted on 01/14/2012 11:40:00 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: neverbluffer

Generalized what quote? I see none.

I’m sorry, but it’s beginning to seem to me as if you have no idea what you’re talking about and are losing track because of an apparent inability to distinguish either cite from anecdote, nor an historical cite pertaining to the church from scripture itself.

There were several churches early on, they’re referenced by name in the Epistles. The Apostle Paul even wrote to Rome and instructed the church there, rebuked it even. Rather odd, don’t you think, if Peter were Pope, for Paul to have done such a thing?


134 posted on 01/14/2012 11:40:46 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: johngrace

How many early church fathers agree and how many disagree, with the point under contention, that Peter was the first Pope?

That cite of Irenaeus is rather difficult to explain away by saying it’s somehow out of context. He’s saying that the episcopate was handed over from the Apostles, plural, to whom?

Not Peter.


135 posted on 01/14/2012 11:44:24 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: conservativguy99

Sorry Charlie. We got the Bible from straight from God himself through the Holy Spirit!

2 Tim 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

And in the direct Aramaic to English:

Every writing which is written by The Spirit is profitable for teaching, for correction, for direction and for a course in righteousness,


136 posted on 01/14/2012 11:45:17 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: RegulatorCountry; neverbluffer
"There were several churches early on, they’re referenced by name in the Epistles. The Apostle Paul even wrote to Rome and instructed the church there, rebuked it even. Rather odd, don’t you think, if Peter were Pope, for Paul to have done such a thing?"

Because the epistles/letters were written before Peter went to Rome. He established his presence later in Rome.

137 posted on 01/14/2012 11:48:28 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: conservativguy99

You might be shocked to find that a lot of you guys will be in Purgatory.
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How dare you!


138 posted on 01/14/2012 11:48:57 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: johngrace
Then, why would Irenaeus have recorded that the Apostles had handed the episcopate over to Linus, of whom mention was made in Paul's epistle to Timothy?

"The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy.

139 posted on 01/14/2012 11:56:51 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: boatbums

Amen Sister, love your tag. take care.


140 posted on 01/14/2012 11:57:03 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: CynicalBear
You are the winner. Scripture (if you truly seek) interprets scripture. Precept upon precept. That is why cheery picking verses is SO dangerous. We must incorporate the WHOLE counsel of God.

Man screws it up every time. So sad that so many have turned to man for interpretation instead of the word itself.

141 posted on 01/14/2012 11:57:57 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: RegulatorCountry; neverbluffer
If you and I see an accident and later I do not bring up something because the question or subject does not require it. Or the police ask a question for a report.

Which you and I may not bring up in the report does not mean it did not happen. You and I may have forgot or it did not have to be brought up.

Sometimes we are taking a piecemeal of a writing to declare something definite where it is not what it was originally stated from the subject context. What is the true purpose of the whole writing. If the main point is titled the successors of Peter and Peter is not declared. Yes strange not to put Peter. But if the argument is not to exactly clarified that fact it is not an absolute that Irenaeus agrees. He did say Apostles ,which Peter was foremost. Suppose he is talking about how the figured out a problem and Peter either has last say or has given delegated authority with the apostles statement. The writing is not clear cut that Peter is not the First Pope either. It just is not stated.

142 posted on 01/15/2012 12:12:07 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Belive you this, there will be NO denominations in heaven just sinners saved by the grace of God!

Amen.

143 posted on 01/15/2012 12:14:51 AM PST by Semper Mark (Pray. Vote. Buy ammo.)
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To: Markos33

Amen!!


144 posted on 01/15/2012 12:22:39 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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145 posted on 01/15/2012 12:28:22 AM PST by narses
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To: johngrace; Anti-Hillary
No one in heaven will be able to (or would want to) boast that their earthly affiliation got them there, because boasting is pride and pride is a sin and there is no sin in heaven.

Only lost sinners, saved by God's Grace will be in heaven.

146 posted on 01/15/2012 12:34:30 AM PST by Semper Mark (Pray. Vote. Buy ammo.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

2Ti 4:21 Do thy diligence to come before winter. Eubulus greeteth thee, and Pudens, and Linus, and Claudia, and all the brethren.
I found your guy Linus, but no “office of the episcopate”. So you are telling us the 12 Apostles handed over the keys of the kingdom of heaven to this obscure person mentioned only once in the Bible to be the second Bishop of Rome? Really? Linus & Lucy and Charlie Brown are having a good laugh! I know I am!


147 posted on 01/15/2012 12:40:19 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: bibletruth
In the present dispensation there is only ONE true Church, which is called the Body of Christ separate and distinct from the prophesied, earthly kingdom of Christ vested in redeemed National Israel as a called-out nation or church, assembly or congregation, above all other nations.

I have read all comments. None addressed this particular declaration. NOT even the Scriptures quoted.

I cannot help but wonder what exactly is the object of worship on these threads. Actually, in Revelation, John taken in Spirit to the Lord's DAY describes 7 different churches in existence and their 'spiritual' condition.

Christ said in Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

Imagine that, before one jot or tittle of the NEW Testament ever got put on animal skins, or plant fibers, all things had already been foretold. Sadly the majority of 'modern' Christians ignore what Paul had to say about what had already happened and written. ICorinthians 10:11 Now *all* these things happened unto them for ensamples: (examples) and they are written for our admonition, (warning) upon whom the ends of the world (age) are come.

Paul's writings were to the 'elect', the House of Israel, House of Judah, and the Gentiles. Some of what Paul wrote goes right over so many heads. One specific example would be Ephesians 1:4---

148 posted on 01/15/2012 12:41:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Markos33

You bet pride is a sin. Gets you kicked right out of heaven and has you take another 1/3 with you...


149 posted on 01/15/2012 12:44:48 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Gets you kicked right out of heaven and has you take another 1/3 with you...

Exactly.

150 posted on 01/15/2012 12:52:16 AM PST by Semper Mark (Pray. Vote. Buy ammo.)
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