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Pastor at Santorum rally: Americans wont vote for Mormon president, Mormon church is racist
The Palm Beach Post ^ | January 22nd, 2012 | Andrew Abramson

Posted on 01/23/2012 3:10:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Rev. O’Neal Dozier, the conservative pastor of Pompano Beach’s Worldwide Christian Center, told the Palm Beach Post Sunday that Mitt Romney cannot win the presidency because Americans won’t vote for a Mormon president.

Following his third place finish in South Carolina, Rick Santorum made his first Florida campaign stop at Dozier’s church, where he gave a faith-based sermon. Dozier has been an outspoken critic of homosexuality and radical Islam. In November, former presidential candidate Herman Cain decided minutes before a speech not to have Dozier deliver his invocation, as was originally planned.

“You can look at the June Gallup poll that shows the people have already spoken – 22 percent of the electorate will not vote for a Mormon,” Dozier said. “The American people will not vote for a Mormon to be president of the United States.”

Dozier, who is black, said a Republican will need at least 10 percent of the black vote to win the presidency.

“Blacks are not going to vote for anyone of the Mormon faith,” Dozier said. “The book of Mormon says the Negro skin is cursed.”

From 1849 through 1978 the Church of Latter-Day Saints barred blacks from its priesthood. The church has lifted but not repudiated the policy.

Dozier said if Romney is the nominee, President Obama’s surrogates will bring out what Dozier considers to be racist views in the Mormon Church.

Dozier’s comments came after Santorum had left a Coral Springs rally to attend a private fundraiser at the Coral Ridge Country Club. Santorum was not available to comment.

Dozier believes Santorum’s sermon at the Worldwide Christian Center was a step toward making him the preferred choice of black conservative voters.

“He came to a predominately black church, and he began his campaign at the most impoverished, HIV-invested area of South Florida,” Dozier said. “That will be a big boost to blacks Americans. The conservative blacks want a man who is principled.”

Of Newt Gingrich, Dozier was less critical but said he “has issues with Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac, he was and advisor to them and he lobbied for them.”

But Dozier seemed open to a Gingrich endorsement if Santorum falls short, saying, “I’m hoping that doesn’t hurt him in this case because we might need Newt.”


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: florida; inman; mormons; romney; santorum
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1 posted on 01/23/2012 3:10:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Black pastors tend to have more guts than their white counterparts. They say it like they see it.


2 posted on 01/23/2012 3:13:52 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rick Santorum made his first Florida campaign stop at Dozier’s church, where he gave a faith-based sermon.

Gave a sermon? I didn't know Santorum was a minister! Idiot reporter.

3 posted on 01/23/2012 3:16:56 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Virginia GOP: Romney's favorite butt boys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Blacks are not going to vote for anyone of the Mormon faith,” Dozier said. “The book of Mormon says the Negro skin is cursed.”

From 1849 through 1978 the Church of Latter-Day Saints barred blacks from its priesthood. The church has lifted but not repudiated the policy.
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Willie Mitty cannot argue with the facts...


4 posted on 01/23/2012 3:39:25 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: COBOL2Java
"Idiot reporter."

re·dun·dant/riˈdəndənt/Adjective:
1.No longer needed or useful; superfluous.
2.(of words or data) Able to be omitted without loss of meaning or function.

5 posted on 01/23/2012 3:44:08 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very interesting. And no, I never heard that about the Mormon faith. If that is true, the good pastor is absolutely correct that it will be used against Romney, should he become the nominee.

Embracing black conservatives is heartwarming both to me and to them. For far too long, they have not had an equal voice. Several of my friends are so frustrated, even in family conversations, that they are talked down or have to remain quiet. I am thrilled seeing them get their voice. They are as significant a voting block as any other and I value their opinion.
Rick Santorum, while not my first pick, primarily because I don’t think he could stand up to the 0bama machine (and he comes off as kind of stiff), is nonetheless steadfast in his faith and beliefs, a man of conviction. He pulls no punches calling Islam what it is and certainly understands who our enemy is in Iran.

Yes, I’m still mad at him for endorsing Specter over Toomey years ago...but Pat Toomey is Senator now and it is time to move on. I like Rick’s ideas on manufacturing, having worked in it in some form or another for 30+ years.

And I like Rick anytime over Romney.


6 posted on 01/23/2012 4:06:09 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Heh! ;)


7 posted on 01/23/2012 4:15:17 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Virginia GOP: Romney's favorite butt boys)
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla; MHGinTN; narses; reaganaut; SENTINEL; ...
Ping.
8 posted on 01/23/2012 4:31:19 AM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: All

all you have to do is read the comments on this board to see if he’s telling the truth.


9 posted on 01/23/2012 4:33:11 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Banned Mormon Cartoon - EXTENDED VERSION
10 posted on 01/23/2012 4:36:23 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Caipirabob
#10 is allegedly based on actual Mormon text and supposedly represents the foundation of their faith.

It does go into the subject of blacks being "cursed".

OTOH, I know many "swarthy" Mormons - several Brasilians, too. You'd think it might upset them should this be presented in this manner.

11 posted on 01/23/2012 4:38:36 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are numerous reasons not to vote for Romney, but adding his religion to the list is bigotry, and I’ll have none of it.


12 posted on 01/23/2012 4:45:39 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

Whoa there! Did you read the article?


13 posted on 01/23/2012 4:47:00 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would guess blacks have more of a problem with Romney because he has an “R” next to his name rather than his mormonism.
So called “religious” blacks had no problem overlooking Obama’s radical pro-abortion, pro-infanticide beliefs.

I wish people would point out that Obama’s marxism is what the real threat is here.


14 posted on 01/23/2012 4:49:35 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: NavyCanDo

adding his religion to the list is bigotry, and I’ll have none of it.
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Then since Romney is a bigot I do hope you arenot planning to vote for him...


15 posted on 01/23/2012 4:55:57 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
IS MITT ROMNEY A BIGOT OR IS HE A LIAR?

Dear Mitt,

We have a simple question that requires a simple YES or NO answer.

Do you believe the Book of Mormon is true?

Sincerely,

Main Stream Media


And the Lord had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 5:21

The Mormon Church's past is indeed racist. From its scripture, to its doctrine, to teachings by top leadership, to its overt treatment of Blacks and American Indians – it is easy find hundreds of examples of overt racism.

If Mitt says YES to the above question, then he has proven himself a bigot. If Mitt says NO, then he has lived a lie throughout his entire life.

It's his Achilles heel and I can assure you that the MSM will ask the above question, or one like it, and then hammer home Mitt’s response if he becomes the Republican nominee.

16 posted on 01/23/2012 4:58:49 AM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have come to know a lot of Mormons the past two years. I have been to many Mormon homes and church events. There are always people of all races including lots of blacks. Numerous times I have met blacks that have married in to white Mormon families. I’ve never heard one racist comment from any Mormon. A few weeks go I attended a concert of religious music by someone who is Mormon. The singer Gladys night. I am not a Mormon. I’m too much if an ass to be one. They are all nice to almost the point of being creepy. But then they are nit creepy. Nicest people around.

The South Park guys did a broadway play about Mormons. In ine scene they do a song which describes the Mormon change is attitude about black people:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=i%20believe%20book%20of%20mormon&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDYQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPHEqCXY2B-w&ei=wlwdT8WdLqbCsQLiq7XiCw&usg=AFQjCNHwSq3tMpUwt-9eTU58uzX_a31aLA


17 posted on 01/23/2012 5:34:40 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

If you think Romney is a bigot because of old doctrine of the Mormon church then you must also believe Glenn Beck is as well. Never have I seen such a fitting tribute to MLK and the civil rights movement than what Glenn Beck did at 8/28 event in D.C.. Not a hint of old church doctrine about blacks ever has come from Beck, or Romney or anyone I know that is Mormon. I think it is damn silly and childish to bring this charge up against Mitt. There are plenty of things not to like Romney for, but if we want to put a label on him because of what his church use to teach about blacks, then all of us should be wearing the labels. It wasn’t the Mormon church that southern men in white hoods attended on Sunday morning, the night after a lynching, or the burning down of a church that welcomed blacks.


18 posted on 01/23/2012 5:42:22 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This type of comment doesn’t help Santorum.
There was a time when America questioned the advisability of electing a Catholic to the presidency. While I dislike Mitt the candidate, I can’t see that his religion itself is an issue. Now, would he use his presidency as a bully pulpit for Mormonism (as Kennedy did not)?


19 posted on 01/23/2012 5:50:56 AM PST by Clara Lou (nObama, noRomney (Obama-lite), noPaul, noBachmann, Santorum in a pinch)
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To: NavyCanDo

Keeping focused on Romney and his bigotry...

I do hope you are not planning to vote for his since you object to bigots..


20 posted on 01/23/2012 5:50:56 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: NavyCanDo

Yes, Romney and Beck both have TRs.
SLC lds never refuted the “blacks are cursed”, just stopped the practice of exclusion.
KKK were democrats
Beck is a fraud and working to godhood, just like Romney
SLC lds is riddled with racism, it is part of their foundation.
You are correct Romney is a liberal and the other stuff is still true.


21 posted on 01/23/2012 6:21:08 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pastor at Santorum rally: Americans won’t vote for Mormon president, Mormon church is racist

Not any MORE!

We quit that around, lessee... 1978.

--MormonDude(We're just SEXIST now.)

22 posted on 01/23/2012 6:27:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We quit that around, lessee... 1978.

But you should have seen us BEFORE then!

Whoooee!!!




"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

23 posted on 01/23/2012 6:29:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: COBOL2Java
I didn't know Santorum was a minister!

I didn't know one HAD to be a 'minister' to give a sermon.

24 posted on 01/23/2012 6:30:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SueRae
And no, I never heard that about the Mormon faith.

Ooooh!

Stick around and you'll learn LOTS about MORMONism that they do NOT tell in their "I'm a MORMON" TV spots.

25 posted on 01/23/2012 6:32:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: NavyCanDo
There are numerous reasons not to vote for Romney, but adding his religion to the list is bigotry, and I’ll have none of it.

Allah thanks you for your support.

26 posted on 01/23/2012 6:34:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“The book of Mormon says the Negro skin is cursed.”

Not when it comes to basketball and track.
27 posted on 01/23/2012 6:34:37 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Scotswife
So called “religious” blacks had no problem overlooking Obama’s radical pro-abortion, pro-infanticide beliefs.

I'll cut them some slack, for after all, he IS 'one of them'.

Halfway at least.

Now, after actually SEEING what O is like instead of HOPING what he would be like; I think you'll see LOTS of black folks failing to vote for O again.

28 posted on 01/23/2012 6:36:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: isthisnickcool
Numerous times I have met blacks that have married in to white Mormon families.

Watch this video on www.youtube.com
…and I'm a MormonWife, mother, and Mayor. My name
is Mia Love, and I'm a Mormon.
YouTube.com/Mormon
Oh oh!


Brigham must be SPINNING in his grave!

29 posted on 01/23/2012 6:38:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a VWEY conservative Christian, I will vote for anyone in the general election with an R behind their name.


30 posted on 01/23/2012 6:40:07 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: NavyCanDo
" If you think Romney is a bigot because of old doctrine of the Mormon church then you must also believe Glenn Beck is as well. Never have I seen such a fitting tribute to MLK and the civil rights movement than what Glenn Beck did at 8/28 event in D.C.. Not a hint of old church doctrine about blacks ever has come from Beck, or Romney or anyone I know that is Mormon. I think it is damn silly and childish to bring this charge up against Mitt. There are plenty of things not to like Romney for, but if we want to put a label on him because of what his church use to teach about blacks, then all of us should be wearing the labels. It wasn’t the Mormon church that southern men in white hoods attended on Sunday morning, the night after a lynching, or the burning down of a church that welcomed blacks. "

What OLD doctrine?? The lds cult STILL TEACHES that ANYONE whose skin is not "light and delightsome" had their skin MADE dark as a sign of a curse from God! This is not yesterday, this is what they teach today!

Joseph Smith was a country boy and when he saw pictures of a white Jesus in a bible, that's exactly how he visualized all Jews in Israel, as pale-ass Wonder Bread Europeans. He made up the story of how Jews settled America in ancient times, but divided into the Nephites (good) andthe Lamanites (evil)...the Lamanites were punished for being evil by darkening their skin, just as God made Cain black for killing his brother Abel (?!). The Lamanites killed off al the Nephites and Treasure Huntin' Joe found these golden plates that told the whole story, how they were the only ones to pass on the true wishes of God and Satan sent dark people to kill the holy white people off.

God help me, I feel sick and dirty even having to type this $hi+ ...wish some of these "experts on mormonism" would do a little research beyond a freaking lds commercial...seriously...

BTW I'm an ex mormon born into the cult, if there was a pill to forget that experience, I'd take two.


P.S. You know what's really sick? People of color are converting to mormonism in some areas at greater rates than whites...they've swallowed hook line and sinker that their social problems are a sign of their being "cursed by God" and that mormons have the solution...in the early days mormon pioneers converted tribes of native americans, promising them if they were obedient mormons God would "take their curse away" and make them white! There's still a large number of all native mormon cults out there today, believing they are cursed, and made to be inferior as a penalty for murdering white people...back in prehistory when white Jews settled America.....AAAGHHH I can't talk about this crap any more, it makes me want to puke!

31 posted on 01/23/2012 6:40:33 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: NavyCanDo
If you think Romney is a bigot because of old doctrine of the Mormon church then you must also believe Glenn Beck is as well.

If you have ANY quotes from either of these; rejecting the teachings of the MORMON past; I sure like to see them.

32 posted on 01/23/2012 6:40:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: NavyCanDo
There are plenty of things not to like Romney for, but if we want to put a label on him because of what his church use to teach about blacks, then all of us should be wearing the labels.

Mitt was high muckety-muck in the LDS 'church' before 1978.

He did NOT (AFAIK) ever speak out about the RACISM in MORMONism.

Heck; the USA gummint got rid of racism... WHEN??

33 posted on 01/23/2012 6:42:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Clara Lou
While I dislike Mitt the candidate, I can’t see that his religion itself is an issue.

From this statement, can I assume that you feel a person's religion should not - would not - or could not influence the way they live their life?

34 posted on 01/23/2012 6:44:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

My comments were to be taken as a whole. You are taking one sentence out of context.


35 posted on 01/23/2012 6:48:04 AM PST by Clara Lou (nObama, noRomney (Obama-lite), noPaul, noBachmann, Santorum in a pinch)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been wondering if his faith might be some of the reason he’s reluctant to release his tax returns. We know he’s tithed millions to the Mormon church, but maybe the actual figure is more staggering than a “few” million. And no matter how great the effort is to mainstream LDS as a legit Christian religion, people will consider it a cult on some level, even if subconsciously. We’re engineered to consider a person a kook if throwing tons of money into a weird cause.

Also, the returns might show the family has donated a paltry amount to charity (aside from LDS), similar to Gore, Clinton, etc.

Romney seems to be a nice guy with a decent family. Maybe he’s too nice to verbally confront the MSM and Obama in a brutal, offensive, and ruthless way. We need that in our candidate.


36 posted on 01/23/2012 6:49:06 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Coldwater Creek

VERY


37 posted on 01/23/2012 6:51:43 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Elsie
I didn't know one HAD to be a 'minister' to give a sermon.

I can't speak for the Evangelical churches, but in the Catholic Church, lay people do not give sermons; that's the exclusive domain of the clergy.

38 posted on 01/23/2012 8:10:54 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Virginia GOP: Romney's favorite butt boys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; BlueMoose; reaganaut
FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Brigham Young taught that the punishemnt for any member of his cult that married a Black, Indian or Islander was DECAPITATION....And any offspring also would have to be DECAPITATED. Young taught that this "sin" was so serious that it was beyond the atoneing power of Christ, and only the "sinner's" own blood could atone for it.

Bluemoose is a member of the cult.

I'll give him an opportunity to first deny it before I post the referenced quotes from his own books.

Of course he's free to denounce FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Brigham Young as a prophet.

Santorum is correct, breakaway LDS sect mormonism is racist. Even very recently, cult leaders have taught that black/indian/islander folks who "convert" will see their skin and appearance change over time, and will become "white and delightsome".

39 posted on 01/23/2012 8:48:16 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: MayflowerMadam; 2ndDivisionVet
We know he’s tithed millions to the Mormon church, but maybe the actual figure is more staggering than a “few” million.

I think it may be the opposite. The heirarchy in Slc may learn that mitt UNDERPAID his tithe and owes them millions.

40 posted on 01/23/2012 9:01:28 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: newnhdad; All

Congratulations to the posters on this thread for telling the truth about mormonISM, I stand in agreement with you that the truth is being told here today.


41 posted on 01/23/2012 9:18:28 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Caipirabob

You assume much here, like that these people are being told the truth about mormonISM. They are not very truthful about the foundation of mormonISM, all you have to do is talk to a mormon to learn that.


42 posted on 01/23/2012 9:21:31 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Clara Lou
Now, would he use his presidency as a bully pulpit for Mormonism YES
43 posted on 01/23/2012 9:23:49 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Elsie

I wish you were right.

When I look at what my black friends are writing online.....that isn’t the case at all.

Not only is W and the evil republicans still to blame for everything...but the past two weeks I have been reading about how our candidates are all racists to boot.


44 posted on 01/23/2012 9:38:03 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: NavyCanDo; 2ndDivisionVet
There are numerous reasons not to vote for Romney, but adding his religion to the list is bigotry, and I’ll have none of it.

Allow me to "translate" this: "There are numerous reasons not to vote for Romney, but considering his religion -- which labels Christianity's creeds an 'abomination', its professors 'corrupt' and 'apostate'-- is intolerant toward Romney, and I will not tolerate those religious expressions."

Signed...Naval 'bigot' of others' religious expressions

45 posted on 01/23/2012 10:10:12 AM PST by Colofornian (If 94% of LDS repeat voting for Romney, then such RINO-voting reveals a liberal Mormon bent)
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To: Godzilla

Interesting point, zilla.


46 posted on 01/23/2012 10:23:52 AM PST by bonfire
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To: Clara Lou; All
This type of comment doesn’t help Santorum. There was a time when America questioned the advisability of electing a Catholic to the presidency. While I dislike Mitt the candidate, I can’t see that his religion itself is an issue. Now, would he use his presidency as a bully pulpit for Mormonism (as Kennedy did not)?

Let's say your new nextdoor neighbor was running for a local office...oh, let's say...dog catcher.

Let's say as a good neighborly gesture, you gave him a Bible.

Let's say a month later he gave that Bible back to you...with all the margins filled with edits...and much, much, much additional content added to it. You ask him what it is...and he tells you that he's a new "prophet" and that his edits & additions have been copied & are going to the printer...

And that he'll have millions of copies of the revised Bible...plus three other "books" as new "revelations."

You start leafing thru his additions.

You see one part where it reads, "Joe Smith - History" in what he calls "The pearl of great price" revelation. It announces that all members of your Christian sect -- and all other Christian sects -- are "corrupt" and that all your creeds are putrid...an 'abomination.'

You read elsewhere in his notes where he deems you & every other Christian worldwide to be an "apostate" -- a spiritual infidel.

Of course, there's many other objectionable "revelations" in there...multiple gods...multiple wives...etc.

Tell me, something Clara Lou...would this inspire you to vote for your neighbor as "dog catcher?"

Joseph Smith revised & edited the Bible (the "JST version")
Smith wrote the Pearl of Great Price
In Smith's Doctrine & Covenants, he wrote about multiple gods & multiple wives -- and those doctrines are still "on the books."

Now Romney is not that "prophet"; but he's given MILLIONS to circulate the above world-wide.

And this vote isn't over whether or not somebody can catch dogs; it's over who will be the leader of the free world.

Do we want somebody leading foreign policy who deems all worldwide Christians as "apostates?"

When they are oppressed and persecuted, will Romney think that's not worth intervening in any way -- given that Mormons think they are "apostates?"

47 posted on 01/23/2012 10:35:02 AM PST by Colofornian (If 94% of LDS repeat voting for Romney, then such RINO-voting reveals a liberal Mormon bent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s right if a bit bombastic.

From the article: “From 1849 through 1978 the Church of Latter-Day Saints barred blacks from its priesthood. The church has lifted but not repudiated the policy. “ Yep. In 1978 the Mormon god changed his mind because of an impending lawsuit.


48 posted on 01/23/2012 10:42:36 AM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I’m the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: SueRae; Elsie

It’s true.

Check out this site, some of the best researched articles on Mormonism ever.

http://utlm.org/topicalindexb.htm#Racism


49 posted on 01/23/2012 10:45:37 AM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I’m the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: NavyCanDo

His religion is the reason he is the way he is - a liberal, arrogant, say anything to get elected idiot.

It isn’t bigotry - it is pointing out cause and effect.


50 posted on 01/23/2012 10:48:36 AM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I’m the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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