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Why Does My Bible Read That Way?
`/23/2012 | Count-your -change

Posted on 01/23/2012 3:27:12 PM PST by count-your-change

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To: count-your-change; HiTech RedNeck; boatbums; metmom

While I disagree with the Jehovah’s Witness point of view, what you say about the “The differences can be quite minor, word order and choice of words that carry much the same the thought or of a rather substantial nature that will affect our understanding of the Scriptures as a whole.” is quite true.


61 posted on 01/24/2012 6:08:04 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: count-your-change

There are 3 versions that I prefer, King James Version, New International Version, and the Amplified King James Version for studying.


62 posted on 01/24/2012 6:14:18 AM PST by DonkeyBonker
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To: count-your-change

and, cyc, good thread — a chance to discuss and debate without pointing fingers.


63 posted on 01/24/2012 6:44:38 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Cronos

It really is possible to have a thread without the invective and eye gouging so typical and I thank all for that....well almost all but I’ll call it square.


64 posted on 01/24/2012 8:21:01 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: DonkeyBonker

I myself, pick according to what usage I have in mind. And often according to the print font used.


65 posted on 01/24/2012 8:28:00 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Salvation; count-your-change
In the Greek it’s “monogenēs theos”. God (theon) no one has seen ever yet only-begotten (monogenēs) God (theos) the is in the bosom of the Father he declared.

Monogenes
single of its kind, only used of only sons or daughters (viewed in relation to their parents) used of Christ, denotes the only begotten son of God

Theon (accusative)

Theos (nominative)
a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities the Godhead, trinity God the Father, the first person in the trinity Christ, the second person of the trinity Holy Spirit, the third person in the trinity spoken of the only and true God refers to the things of God his counsels, interests, things due to him whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way God's representative or viceregent of magistrates and judges

Simply put. No one has seen God ever yet the only begotten God in the bosom of the Father declared Him.

It seems to me that the interpretation should be “the only begotten God”.

66 posted on 01/24/2012 9:23:42 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: count-your-change

My favorite online Bible source.

You can bring up parallel translations of any one verse and then go to the Greek or Hebrew which is connected to a Strong’s to find the meanings of the words.

It’s very easy to use.

http://biblos.com/


67 posted on 01/24/2012 10:17:42 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CynicalBear
“It seems to me that the interpretation should be “the only begotten God”.

In the p66, John 1:18, the only begotten “theos” is written as a theta plus an s with a line over both. No upper or lower case.

So whether it should appear as “God” or “god” depends upon the view of the translator of the context and even his own bias.

“Monogenes
single of its kind, only used of only sons or daughters (viewed in relation to their parents) used of Christ, denotes the only begotten son of God”

“Single of its kind” being the only, uniquely generated son
(mono + genes) fitting of Christ.

68 posted on 01/24/2012 10:35:33 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom

Thanks. I think I’ve used that site before and likewise found it quite useful. Here’s another to add to your favorites list,

Online Greek Interlinear Biblewww.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htmCached - Similar


69 posted on 01/24/2012 10:46:51 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

A very good translation of the bible is the net bible.


70 posted on 01/24/2012 4:00:22 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Grammar & spelling maybe wrong, get over it, the world will not come to an end!)
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Thanks! There are far more I want to examine than I can afford so I'm thankful that so many are available online for free.

What is it you like about this particular translation?

71 posted on 01/24/2012 4:08:04 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
They have spent years putting it together and they have lots of foot notes such as was a certain verse always in the bible or what other translations say about a verse it has been put together very well and I think it has come out of Dallas Theological School.
72 posted on 01/24/2012 4:38:46 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Grammar & spelling maybe wrong, get over it, the world will not come to an end!)
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Very cool, thanks for posting that link. I spent a good hour investigating that earliest of Biblical manuscripts, the Peshitta.


73 posted on 01/24/2012 4:44:27 PM PST by Ciexyz
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