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Lesbian pastor integrates seamlessly in new Berwyn church
Berwyn Life ^ | 1/25/12 | Brett Schweinberg

Posted on 01/25/2012 12:26:47 PM PST by SmithL

Berwyn, IL — After years of declining membership, two Lutheran churches in Berwyn recently were forced to merge.

While the new church faces many issues as it struggles to adapt to modern society, no one seems to have any qualms about the new pastor, the Rev. Julie Boleyn, who was ordained Jan. 14.

Calm, charismatic and serene in the strength of her faith, Boleyn also is the first lesbian to be ordained in the Greater Metropolitan Chicago Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

For several years, both the United Berwyn Lutheran Church and the First Lutheran Church of Berwyn — the two congregations that merged to create Unity Lutheran Church of Berwyn — were known for as “reconciling in Christ” churches that accepted openly gay and lesbian people as members.

So when it came time to call on a new pastor for Unity Lutheran, their leader’s orientation wasn’t an issue. Instead, the congregation looked at the leadership qualities of each candidate, said Wayne Parthun, a council member for the new church.

“I think you have to look at the realities of life today. It's just the idea that, let's look at what this person brings. Their orientation, private-life wise, it's not an issue,” Parthun said. “Nobody even flinched when the recommendation was made.”

Boleyn, 36, has been married to her partner since 2004, and the couple has a 3-year-old daughter. And her ordination has not only been handled with complete acceptance, but a welcome indifference, she said.

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1 posted on 01/25/2012 12:26:53 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

“Modern realities “...God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow!


2 posted on 01/25/2012 12:29:31 PM PST by TheGunny
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To: lightman
After years of declining membership,
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were known for as “reconciling in Christ”
Hmmmmm. I'm sure there's no correlation there, at all.
3 posted on 01/25/2012 12:30:22 PM PST by SmithL (If you reward certain behavior, don't be surprised when you see more of that behavior)
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To: SmithL

Only the ECLA would think that two dying congregations can be revived by giving them a lesbian “pastor.” These fallen creatures will be stunned to find that God doesn’t change his mind to fit the current thinking of this evil age.


4 posted on 01/25/2012 12:31:34 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: SmithL

This organization has a name, much the way the Roman Catholic Church claims a name, but has no idea what the Gospel of Jesus Christ actually teaches. Paul would consider these false brethren, and with him believers in Christ heartily agree.


9 posted on 01/25/2012 12:38:16 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: SmithL

I see she worked for Planned Parenthood,too.
Homosexuality AND child-sacrifice! THERE’S a marriage made in heaven!


10 posted on 01/25/2012 12:41:22 PM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: SmithL

Advancing ever deeper into apostasy and judgment.


11 posted on 01/25/2012 12:45:44 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: SmithL

They have a 3 year old child.

Either it’s another Virgin Birth or they went against God to produce it.

Somebody provided sperm.

Sounds like the real Church members declined themselves out of there, and the Dyke is preaching to the left-overs who don’t know any better.

God states Homosexuality is an abomination and I doubt He has changed His mind.


12 posted on 01/25/2012 12:47:19 PM PST by Venturer
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To: txrefugee

people like me left our church because of the homosexuals and the liberal agenda and still these idiots think that if they have more homosexuals then more would come into the church, NOT SO

More and more are leaving due to the church becoming liberal and letting in the homo agenda.
I forget which article I saw but it said the Catholic church is gaining because they will not accept the homosexual agenda or killing babies and still will read the holy Bible as it should be


13 posted on 01/25/2012 12:55:11 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: SmithL
no one seems to have any qualms about the new pastor, the Rev. Julie Boleyn

Yes, all 4 members of the congregation are fine with it!

14 posted on 01/25/2012 12:55:34 PM PST by PGR88
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To: massmike

you know this I know but I’ll say it.
homosexuals have been working on infiltrating the church, the boy scouts and the girl scouts, they are infiltrating the schools the congress, the judges etc.

Karl Marx once said that in order to pass their agenda then they have to not do it by force but by getting into positions of power and influence.

What we have here is a homosexual who worked for a couple of years pretending to believe in Christ in order to infiltrate the church.

Like so many homosexuals they seek out people, befriend them and once they know they have that persons confidence and trust they then tell them that they’re homosexuals and these new friends fall for the crap.

How many times have we heard the usual crap of”well I know one and he is nice he wants to be left alone “

What utter drivel and the idiots fall for it and give up their morals and views


15 posted on 01/25/2012 1:00:25 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: SmithL; TheGunny; txrefugee; massmike; Venturer
"Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven..." - Ge 9:24

God will punish this nation in the same fashion, as more self-described 'Christians' allow this kind of sin within their 'church.'

16 posted on 01/25/2012 1:02:36 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: SmithL

Female pastor = Un-biblical

L3sbian pastor = Ichabod


17 posted on 01/25/2012 1:04:03 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SmithL

If Priestess Julie “integrated seamlessly” it is because she has erased the difference between sin and righteousness. She is an example not simply of vice failing to give deference to virtue through the usual means of hypocrisy, she is vice claiming to be virtue. She is Sodom claiming to be Zion, the Holy City of the Lord. She is the whore of Babylon pretending to be the bride of Christ.

From the article: “Boleyn, 36, has been married to her partner since 2004, and the couple has a 3-year-old daughter. And her ordination has not only been handled with complete acceptance, but a welcome indifference, she said.”

If the congregation(s) handled her ordination with “welcome indifference,” that is at best - AT BEST!!! - lukewarm. The people of the congregation(s), if the article is accurate - always a question with the media these days - manifestly haven’t a clue what the Bible says or is, and therefore not a clue what God says or who He is. Boleyn is the complete package of adultery, openly violating the commandment of God in nearly every way imaginable ... and with no shame.

That the congregation would accept in any way such a one as pastor says two things: 1) that they are not Lutheran, but in fact lawless and, because that is so, also wholly without the gospel; and 2) that they are self-admittedly post-Christian pagans.

That is the nicest way I can say it. That is the very best construction I can put on it. Not only would I not commend such a congregation to anyone, I wouldn’t let my dog pee on their grass for fear of the damage it might do to him.


18 posted on 01/25/2012 1:10:14 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: SmithL
The so-called "Reverend." Julie Boleyn "the first lesbian to be ordained in the Greater Metropolitan Chicago Synod", is not a servant of the true and living God, neither is she a minister of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. She is a servant and minister of Satan and her vaunted deathstyle clearly indicates that she is devoid of the truth and unless she repents of her sin and turns in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ for her salvation she is destined for Hell and ultimately the Lake of Fire where she and all who follow her in her depravity will endure eternal torment. "Rev." Julie Boleyn is a false teacher whom the Apostle Peter aptly warns of and describes in 2 Peter chapter 2:

1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce DESTRUCTIVE HERESIES, EVEN DENYING THE MASTER WHO BOUGHT THEM BRINGING SWIFT DESTRUCTION UPON THEMSELVES.

2 Many will follow THEIR SENSUALITY, and BECAUSE OF THEM THE WAY OF TRUTH WILL BE MALIGNED;

3 and in THEIR GREED THEY WILL EXPLOIT YOU WITH FALSE WORDS; THEIR JUDGMENT from long ago is not idle, and THEIR DESTRUCTION is not asleep.

4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into HELL and committed them to PITS OF DARKNESS, RESERVED FOR JUDGMENT;

5 and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the UNGODLY;

6 and if HE CONDEMNED the cities of SODOM and GOMORRAH TO DESTRUCTION by reducing them TO ASHES, HAVING MADE THEM AN EXAMPLE TO THOSE WHO W O U L D LIVE UNGODLY LIVES THERE AFTER; 7 and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the SENSUAL CONDUCT OF UNPLINCIPLED MEN

8(for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds),

9 then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, AND TO KEEP THE UNRIGHTEOUS UNDER PUNISHMENT FOR THE DAY OF JUDGMENT,

10 AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO INDULGE THE FLESH IN IT'S CORRUPT DESIRES AND DISPISE AUTHORITIES. DARING, SELF-WILLED, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,

11 whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord.

12 BUT THESE, LIKE UNREASONING ANIMALS. BORN CREATURES OF INSTINCT TO BE CAPTURED AND KILLED, REVILING WHERE THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE, WILL IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THOSE CREATURES ALSO BE DESTROYED,

13 SUFFERING WRONG AS THE WAGES OF DOING WRONG. THEY COUNT IT A PLEASURE TO REVEL IN THE DAYTIME. THEY ARE STAINS AND BLEMISHES, REVELING IN THEIR DECEPTIONS AS THEY CAROUSE WITH YOU,

14 HAVING EYES FULL OF ADULTERY THAT NEVER CEASE FROM SIN, ENTICING UNSTABLE SOULS, HAVING A HEART TRAINED IN GREED, ACCURSED CHILDREN;

15 FORSAKING THE r i g h t w a y, THEY HAVE GONE ASTRAY, HAVING FOLLOWED THE WAY OF BALAAM, the son of Beor, WHO LOVED THE WAGES OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;

16 but he received a rebuke for his own transgression, for a mute donkey, speaking with a voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet.

17 THESE ARE SPRINGS WITHOUT WATER AND MISTS DRIVEN BY A STORM, FOR WHOM BLACK DARKNESS HAS BEEN RESERVED.

18 FOR SPEAKING OUT ARROGANT WORDS OF VANITY THEY ENTICE BY FLESHLY DESIRE, BY S E N S U A L I T Y, those who barely escape FROM THE ONES WHO LIVE IN ERROR,

19 PROMISING THEM F R E E D O M WHILE THEY THEMSELVES ARE S L A V E S TO C O R R U P T I O N; for by what a man is OVERCOME, BY THIS HE IS ENSLAVED.

20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again ENTANGLED IN THEM AND ARE OVERCOME, THE LAST STATE HAS BECOME WORSE FOR THEM THAN THE FIRST.

21 For IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR THEM NOT TO HAVE KNOWN THE WAY OR RIGHTEOUSNESS, THAN HAVING KNOWN IT, TO TURN AWAY FROM THE HOLY COMMANDMENT HANDED ON TO THEM.

22 IT AS HAPPENED TO THEM ACCORDING TO THE TRUE PROVERB, “A DOG RETURNS TO IT'S OWN VOMIT,” and, “A SOW, AFTER WASHING, RETURNS TO WALLOWING IN THE MIRE.” (2 Peter 2 NASB, Emphasis Added)

Woe to the people of United Berwyn Lutheran Church and the First Lutheran Church of Berwyn, a Satanic wolf in sheep's clothing walks among them and is leading thier congregations straight to hell. Their congregants need to flee from this wicked woman as soon as possible!

19 posted on 01/25/2012 1:12:12 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: All

Isn’t Svengoolie from Berwyn?


20 posted on 01/25/2012 1:12:47 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: Jmouse007

thier = their


21 posted on 01/25/2012 1:22:45 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: SmithL

“...come out from among them.”-St. Paul


22 posted on 01/25/2012 1:25:53 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SmithL
Calm, charismatic and serene in the strength of her faith delusion
23 posted on 01/25/2012 1:37:11 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Dutchboy88

I wouldn’t compare this organization with the Catholic Church in any way, shape or form: most particularly on this issue.


24 posted on 01/25/2012 1:47:45 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Christ is in our midst!

25 posted on 01/25/2012 2:00:25 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: SmithL

Only Christ is mentioned as having a seamless garment.

These two churches are not of seamlessness or Christ.


26 posted on 01/25/2012 2:02:09 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SmithL

I suppose some churches would hire Jezebel if she were around. There is no limit to their wickedness.


27 posted on 01/25/2012 2:05:47 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: SmithL

“They have a form of godliness, but deny the power therein.”

God will not be mocked, especially in His sanctuary.


28 posted on 01/25/2012 2:15:41 PM PST by PrepareToLeave (Arrows of the Almighty @ Amazon.com)
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To: SmithL
The congregations were "forced" to merge? By whom?

My orthodox LCMS congregation has been "forced" to expand its physical facilities.

29 posted on 01/25/2012 2:16:58 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: D-fendr
"I wouldn’t compare this organization with the Catholic Church in any way, shape or form: most particularly on this issue."

If you do not, then you do not catch my comparison. Just as the Roman Catholic Church has siezed upon the claim of "the Church", but misses the Gospel by a country mile, this Lutheran "Church" lays claim to the title, but is wide of the mark. The RCC errs by substituting sacerdotalism, mariolatry, indulgences, sacraments, confessionism, papalism, veneration of the "saints", and a host of other un-biblical doctrines for the biblical doctrine of grace. Similarly, the Lutheran Church in question teaches homosexuality, women eldership, child baptism and a host of other un-biblical doctrines in place of grace. While Rome does not advocate those particular errors, I was pointing out that claiming a name as a "church" does not make it, nor the Lutheran "church", a true assembly supported by God.

30 posted on 01/25/2012 2:22:06 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Nope, didn’t miss your comparison, just don’t accept your opinion on this issue or the Gospel or the Church.

Sorry.


31 posted on 01/25/2012 2:41:37 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: massmike

“Homosexuality AND child-sacrifice! THERE’S a marriage made in heaven!”

or Hell.


32 posted on 01/25/2012 2:54:11 PM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SmithL
Boleyn, 36, has been married to her partner since 2004, and the couple has a 3-year-old daughter.

Hallelujah, it's a miracle!

33 posted on 01/25/2012 2:57:14 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: D-fendr

Certainly your prerogative. Doesn’t change reality.

Sorry.


34 posted on 01/25/2012 3:24:42 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: SmithL

I’m glad my grandparents go to a strict Lutheran church. I believe it’s the Missouri Snyod. My great-grandfather was a
Lutheran pastor. He was strict.


35 posted on 01/25/2012 3:56:23 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: Dutchboy88

You had to bring it up in this context.

Reality is your “claiming as a church” has as much as or less than the authority of the church in the article.


36 posted on 01/25/2012 3:57:17 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I was baptized in Lutheran Church. I do think there is a conservative branch left, perhaps it is the Missouri Synod. If anyone has that info, I’d appreciate hearing it.


37 posted on 01/25/2012 4:08:51 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: SmithL; lightman

These people are just playing at “church”. There’s no reality in it. It’s pretty pathetic, really.

The big problem is when these people present themselves as “ordained ministers” and a “Christian community” when they’re pushing some social or political issue, as they always do. Then they can use their bogus “authority” to fool the sheeple into accepting their leftist, “human rightser” causes. But their “ordinations” and “communities” are shams, so no one should believe or follow them.


38 posted on 01/25/2012 4:17:48 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: D-fendr

Yes you’re right, the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod is very conservative.


39 posted on 01/25/2012 4:20:10 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ( Everytime a democrat loses, a Moonbat gets its wings burned off.)
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To: D-fendr

I,too,was baptized in the Lutheran Church by my great-grandfather on my mother’s side.

I have since converted to Judaism.


40 posted on 01/25/2012 4:21:23 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

Thanks for the welcome info on the LCMS; may they stay strong.


41 posted on 01/25/2012 4:29:21 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dutchboy88

” . . .. but misses the Gospel by a country mile, . . ..”

I thank God for your compelling truthful witness, brother Dutchboy. In remarkably few words, you spoke volumes.


42 posted on 01/25/2012 4:59:32 PM PST by Elsiejay (in)
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To: SmithL
After years of declining membership, two Lutheran churches in Berwyn recently were forced to merge.

So we've gone from two dwindling churches to one.

43 posted on 01/25/2012 5:04:44 PM PST by Gamecock (I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
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To: SmithL
Calm, charismatic and serene in the strength of her faith

It would be fascinating to chat with Martin Luther and define the differences between her faith and his.

44 posted on 01/25/2012 5:15:51 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dutchboy88; D-fendr
Certainly your prerogative. Doesn’t change reality.

Claims of reality do not make them so.

45 posted on 01/25/2012 5:17:37 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dutchboy88

your anti Catholic screed has all the talking points intact, the main problem is that they are a distortion of what Catholics actually believe.

It reminds me of Father Groeschel commenting that if he thought the Catholic church believed in all these things he would oppose it too.


46 posted on 01/25/2012 6:00:24 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc
"It reminds me of Father Groeschel commenting that if he thought the Catholic church believed in all these things he would oppose it too."

Curious...which of those errant doctrines does Rome not promulgate?

47 posted on 01/26/2012 7:33:19 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: lightman; SmithL; Honorary Serb; hinckley buzzard
And the ELCA leaders remain as willfully clueless and euphemistically deceptive as ever.

Rev. Dr. William Gafkjen, ELCA bishop of the Indiana-Kentucky synod:

What does your job [as bishop] entail?

"I assumed the role at a time when there was a lot turmoil in the denomination; in this synod we have lost almost 10 percent of the congregations. A lot of it has been interacting with congregations during their discernment of whether to stay with this denomination. As a synod in transition, we're spending a lot of time gathering up and casting vision, talking about what it means to be a church for the world."

"Gathering up and casting vision""? "Church for the world"? ELCAspeak at its most fraudulently unctuous.

48 posted on 01/26/2012 8:21:44 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema; lightman

Sounds like they’re CASTING a hexagram, to “consult” the I Ching:

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/learn/consult/yarrow.php

With all that New Age stuff that ELCA members inevitably resort to, that’s a possibility!

Since the ELCA has become hollowed out and empty spiritually, it tends to emphasize politics, and act as a “ ‘church’ for the world”. Meanwhile, its members often resort to New Age balderdash to attempt to fill the void.

I speak from experience. I am a former ELCA member who became Orthodox. In the Orthodox Church, we come to Divine Liturgy not to hear about God, but to experience Him for ourselves. It really, really happens!!!!


49 posted on 01/26/2012 11:57:13 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

I worship in two Orthodox parishes, one OCA and the other Serbian. My OCA parish was “forced” to expand its facilities several years before I became Orthodox. More recently, my Serbian parish was “forced” to move into a new facility about five times the size of the old one!!!!

There is an LCMS parish in a neighboring town that also was “forced” to expand its facilities.

Of course, “forced” is not the right word to use.

So it goes.


50 posted on 01/26/2012 12:03:55 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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