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Fr. Rutler: “What Happens When a Government Tries to Chain the Conscience?”
Cardinal Newman Society ^ | January 26, 2012 | Fr. George Rutler

Posted on 01/29/2012 6:32:38 AM PST by NYer

Fr. George Rutler was kind enough to share his latest parish bulletin concerning the recent HHS mandate with the Cardinal Newman Society.

He writes:

Our many fellow Catholics now enchained for the Faith of our Fathers in such places as China, Syria, and Egypt are, as Father Faber’s hymn says, “in heart and conscience free.” But what happens when a government tries to chain the conscience itself?

A few weeks ago, in a remarkably unanimous decision, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the attempt of the present Administration in Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School v. EEOC to restrict religious freedom. Chief Justice Roberts wrote that the Administration’s argument that the First Amendment does not guarantee the right of religious organization to choose its leaders, was an “extreme” infringement of the free exercise clause.

Undeterred, and menacingly on the cusp of the anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the Department of Health and Human Services has issued an “interim final rule” which requires all private health plans, including those of Catholic hospitals and schools, to include coverage of prescription contraceptives, female sterilization procedures, and abortion counseling.

For a while, various Catholic leaders had hoped that they might reach an understanding with the Administration, and some even felt more at peace with the president’s assurances. But “peace for our time” only lasts until Poland is invaded. Cardinal Mahony, whom no one would fault for intransigence, now says, “I cannot imagine a more direct and frontal attack on the freedom of conscience than this ruling today. This decision must be fought against with all the energies the Catholic Community can muster.” Our own archbishop said, “In effect, the president is saying we have a year to figure out how to violate our consciences.”

At the time of the last presidential election, some may have thought that I overstated things in finding parallels with the dystopian world described in Robert Hugh Benson’s Lord of the World, in which Julian Felsenburgh makes eugenics “a sacred duty.”

Since our Lord did not humiliate the frightened apostles by saying “I told you so” when he rose from the dead, I shall not say “I told you so” to any who underestimated the plottings of social engineers whose audacity is only an audacity of despair.

Blessed John Henry Newman, in Discussions and Arguments on Various Subjects, cited the prediction of an eighteenth-century Protestant bishop and scientist, Samuel Horsley:

“The Church of God on earth will be greatly reduced, as we may well imagine, in its apparent numbers, in the times of Antichrist, by the open desertion of the powers of the world. This desertion will begin in a professed indifference to any particular form of Christianity, under the pretense of universal toleration; which toleration will proceed from no true spirit of charity and forbearance, but from a design to undermine Christianity, by multiplying and encouraging sectaries… For governments will pretend an indifference to all, and will give a protection in preference to none.”



TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichrist; obama; secularism; society

1 posted on 01/29/2012 6:32:43 AM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

That final paragraph is stunning!


2 posted on 01/29/2012 6:33:58 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

When are the fools in America going to figure out our First Muslim President is better described as a terrorist rather than a politician!


3 posted on 01/29/2012 6:44:43 AM PST by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone think?)
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To: NYer

The seeds of a second American revolution are being planted right now.


4 posted on 01/29/2012 6:52:34 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

Christians had better wake up and understand that OBAMA is NOT a Christian. He goes into church as a ploy, to give te appearance he is a Christian, but is in fact a devil in sheep’s clothing. He is a MUSLIM, from his own words and actions!

He and his adminstration are attempting to destroy all Christian teachings. The sooner you realize this the better.

May God place his foot on the head of the serpent and crush it.


5 posted on 01/29/2012 7:03:13 AM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: NYer; zot; SeraphimApprentice; Interesting Times

This pastoral letter needs to be spread throughout the Protestant community as well.


6 posted on 01/29/2012 7:19:12 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer
Department of Health and Human Services has issued an “interim final rule” which requires all private health plans, including those of Catholic hospitals and schools, to include coverage of prescription contraceptives, female sterilization procedures, and abortion counseling.

We can't put all the blame on Barry.
The blame lies DIRECTLY with our very own culture which elected the fool and tolerates murder of our own MOST innocent Americans.
The blame is on the HHS which is long established by both parties.
The blame is on the Christians who go along with prescription contraceptives, female sterization and abortion.
There are even non-Christians who are totally against abortion and theirs is also the blame for tolerating the RIGHT for females to murder their own flesh and bloon in the name of "reproductive rights," which, unfortunately include murdering babies because the babies are INCONVENIENT or IMPERFECT.

How do we Americans have the GAUL to proclaim ourselves the land of the free when we allow murder of the MOST innocent?

7 posted on 01/29/2012 7:19:29 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer

Thank you NYer. Fr. Rutler is one of my heroes. I brought my daughter back to college (her dorm is in Brooklyn Heights) 2 Sundays ago and we made a detour off the FDR highway into Manhattan to go to his 59 Park Avenue church.

It was stunning!! The Christ the High Priest icon was to die for. Father’s homily was outstanding.

I used to read the Latin mass magazine and loved his writing.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 7:28:00 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: wetgundog

“Christians had better wake up ...”

You are so right. The man was formed a muslim in Indonesia during his growing up years. In the process of raising daughters, I know how important those years are in a persons formation.

He is a Muslim - through and through!! Remember the wedding ring not being worn during ramadan? Also they (the Muslims)are allowed to lie as much as they want to hide their religion.


9 posted on 01/29/2012 7:32:01 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: NYer
That final paragraph is stunning!

Not to those who are familiar with the Bible. Jesus said "they" would hate us because we loved Him. God told us that Men (not just Christians) will be greatly reduced in the end times. Have you noticed the stories about reduced fertiltiy and child birth through many parts of the world lately?

10 posted on 01/29/2012 7:34:22 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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11 posted on 01/29/2012 7:43:01 AM PST by narses
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To: cloudmountain
The blame lies DIRECTLY with our very own culture which elected the fool and tolerates murder of our own MOST innocent Americans.

That's it...We have the leader that the people wanted...

And I have a feeling that the churches would empty out if the priests and pastors suddenly started poking at the congregations about stopping the use of contraceptives and start building those big families...

A day late and a dollar short...

12 posted on 01/29/2012 7:44:48 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: NYer

I’m glad you posted this — you saved me the effort. Fr. Rutler I trust implicitly; the Bishops, not necessarily.


13 posted on 01/29/2012 7:52:56 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: Iscool

>>And I have a feeling that the churches would empty out if the priests and pastors suddenly started poking at the congregations about stopping the use of contraceptives and start building those big families... <<

You might be surprised.
When I joined our parish, I was pleasantly surprised to listen to one of our priests speak of sin and tell us that if we didn’t start defending Jesus, we were going to be saying “Allah Akbar”. (in Michigan, mind you)
The priests DO speak of the sin of contraception, they have seminars on Natural Family Planning. Our pastor refuses to marry any couple that has been living together. We have more “family buses” in the parking lot than the local car lot up the street. 4 children is the norm, 12 is not unknown. Our “new mom” ministry is hopping. I know of two families that joined our parish and the father had his vasectomy reversed. Each mom started popping babies soon after. Adoption is a huge thing with us too. We looked into it but can’t afford it yet. God will provide if He wants us to.

When I got there 10 years ago, our envelope number was 756. Today, they are handing out the 2000s. People want to be told the truth.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 8:13:52 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

Very good! People do want to be told the truth.

That doesn’t mean they’re going to like it after years of listening to untruths (or, more often, hearing nothing at all). We had a parish priest who gave a homily about contraception and sterilization a few years ago and the pastor told him he was never to discuss these things again, because he had received so many irate calls from parishioners. (Also, I don’t think the pastor himself supported the Church’s teachings.)

So it does take a priest with courage to start talking about these things, but once they do, people respond.


15 posted on 01/29/2012 8:30:19 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

I have to say that one of the reasons why our Pastor is so strong is because he is native Slovak. He lived under communism and knows what is important.


16 posted on 01/29/2012 8:41:07 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: livius; netmilsmom
"People do want to be told the truth."

"...and the pastor told him he was never to discuss these things again, because he had received so many irate calls from parishioners."

So which is it?

17 posted on 01/29/2012 8:42:30 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: wetgundog

re: “He is a MUSLIM, from his own words and actions!”

You may be right, but I think it is even worse than that. Obama is a marxist/communist through and through. He doesn’t believe in any God (or Allah) beyond that. Marxism is his faith.

He uses religion to suit his purposes. He uses religion as a necessary step to get support from some Christian groups or Islamic groups - mainly votes and money.

I believe he is really an atheist. He obviously hates the United States and Israel - which plays into the idea that he is really a Muslim - except that I don’t think real Muslims are into marxism or communism - which Obama obviously is.

He’s using Islam for his own purposes - not because he really believes in it. At least that’s how he looks to me.


18 posted on 01/29/2012 8:43:47 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: smvoice

>>So which is it? <<

Reread it. The Pastor seemed to be against what the Priest had given a homily on. Who knows if the number of calls were low or high, the Pastor was using it to manipulate.

Understand that all of America has been fed a bunch of bull for years. Liberal Catholics invaded the Catholic Church and nearly won. People hunger for the truth but it sure isn’t comfortable when some hear it the first time.


19 posted on 01/29/2012 8:52:38 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom
I guess the point I was making was that since when did "TRUTH" become measured by the number of phone calls pro or anti? Why would someone who is supposedly entrusted with TRUTH bow down to pressure from those who don't want to hear it? And allow himself to be ordered not to preach it again, lest he anger the people? As far as "..the Pastor was using it to manipulate...", that says volumes. Why is he still a Pastor if he manipulates?
20 posted on 01/29/2012 9:15:36 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: netmilsmom

I am single and past childbearing, but witnessing for the faith is just as good also.


21 posted on 01/29/2012 9:30:45 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

The Muslim doesn’t seem to remember that our rights come from God.


22 posted on 01/29/2012 9:32:16 AM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: smvoice

>>Why is he still a Pastor if he manipulates? <<

Because he is human. We manipulate people to our way of thinking all the time. His is wrong, and my Pastor is correct. But both use the information they have to get people to their way of thinking.

I’m blessed to be where I am.


23 posted on 01/29/2012 9:46:31 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom
But our way of thinking must be based on TRUTH. Otherwise, the deceivers can and do deceive. "...but both use the information they have to get people to their way of thinking."

Don't they both get the same information from official Church doctrines and teachings? This is very confusing. How can two men who are qualified by Rome to pastor and be a priest to the faithful come to such different beliefs, when Rome states clearly what the official beliefs are? And where do the faithful go in order to find out which one is telling the truth and which one is manipulating?

24 posted on 01/29/2012 9:54:43 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: Biggirl

>>I am single and past childbearing, but witnessing for the faith is just as good also.<<

Amen Sister! We all have a calling. For single people, being open to life is caring for those cannot speak for themselves. Be it in the pro-life movement, volunteering at your church or visiting nursing homes, your calling speaks volumes about your faith.

Married couples have a different calling but neither is more important than the other. God puts us where He needs us when we listen to Him.

Me? I did 34 years sitting where you are. I volunteered where I could, at bingo and at the food bank, became Godmother to three and confirmation sponsor to them as well. I guided those who were not from my womb. Now I’m a mom of two, but I don’t feel that I am any more important now than I was before my kids. He knows where He wants me.


25 posted on 01/29/2012 9:55:24 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: smvoice

>>And where do the faithful go in order to find out which one is telling the truth and which one is manipulating? <<

Thinking people know where to find it. That is why The Church is concentrating on orthodox teachings of our young people. Every church is made of men who are sinners. One cannot expect a Priest to be perfect. (although ours is close!)


26 posted on 01/29/2012 10:00:16 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: GreyFriar; lightman
This pastoral letter needs to be spread throughout the Protestant community as well.

BTW - Fr. Rutler is a former Episcopal priest and was received into the Catholic Church in 1979. Father Rutler graduated from Dartmouth, where he was a Rufus Choate Scholar, and took advanced degrees at the Johns Hopkins University and the General Theological Seminary. He holds several degrees from the Gregorian and Angelicum Universities in Rome, including the Pontifical Doctorate in Sacred Theology, and studied at the Institut Catholique in Paris. In England, in 1988, the University of Oxford awarded him the degree Master of Studies.

27 posted on 01/29/2012 10:04:57 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: stonehouse01
I brought my daughter back to college (her dorm is in Brooklyn Heights) 2 Sundays ago and we made a detour off the FDR highway into Manhattan to go to his 59 Park Avenue church. It was stunning!! The Christ the High Priest icon was to die for. Father’s homily was outstanding.

Glad you made the visit! That church is a veritable oasis amidst the hubbub of Manhattan.

With your daughter attending college in Brooklyn Heights, you may want to consider attending a Maronite Divine Liturgy, on your next visit.

Our Lady of Lebanon Maronite Cathedral is on Remsen Street, in Brooklyn. You can learn more about the cathedral here. Should you decide to go, please freepmail me ahead of time and I will give you a brief rundown on how the liturgy is celebrated. What a golden opportunity for you and your daughter to celebrate a liturgy where the consecration is chanted in Aramaic, the language of Jesus, the Blessed Mother and the Apostles.

28 posted on 01/29/2012 10:28:52 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: netmilsmom

Glad to hear it...


29 posted on 01/29/2012 10:34:35 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: NYer
I think the final paragraph raises issues we need to deal with.

This desertion will begin in a professed indifference to any particular form of Christianity

This pretty well describes America at the time of the Founders, and for a century or two after. Indifference to the particular form of Christianity (although pretty widespread prejudice against Catholics). And most Americans recognized that Jews deserved respect, but that Muslim were our enemies--pirates who preyed on shipping and took slaves.

That changed further, as ALL religions were presumed to be covered by the First Amendment. But that is where I think we now are in desperate need to stop and think again.

Where do we draw the line? Is Satanism OK? Apparently so, as long as they refrain from murdering anyone. Is Wicca or Witchcraft OK? Well, actually, it's higher up the ladder than Christianity in many people's estimation. Is voodoo OK? And so forth.

We tend to say, well, anything goes. But do we really want to encourage Satanists, witches, and voodoo magicians? Or, for that matter, special rights for Muslims who want to kill and enslave us?

Freedom of religion is very basic. But where do you draw the line? Not an easy question. But I think we have reached the point where it needs to be confronted.

30 posted on 01/29/2012 10:36:27 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cloudmountain

Amen!

It is NOT about Obama really. We as a society have allowed this filth so what Obama is doing is just the next logical step.


31 posted on 01/29/2012 11:41:34 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: GreyFriar
This pastoral letter needs to be spread throughout the Protestant community as well.

True, but the liberal Protestant churches are on the government side of this issue.

32 posted on 01/29/2012 12:35:46 PM PST by zot
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To: NYer

That is a beautiful church!! My daughter actually goes to Pace in lower Manhattan; she lives in Brooklyn Heights - one subway stop to Henry Street under the East river. She absolutely loves Brooklyn Heights - so many adorable babies. She is sometimes sad that they are most often with a nanny - that’s another topic though.


33 posted on 01/29/2012 1:52:18 PM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: NYer

Facebook, This is a Great one, Amen Fr Rutler keep speaking about the evil around us!

Thanks NYer


34 posted on 01/29/2012 4:07:23 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: NYer

Yes it is!

Like prophecy in our times.


35 posted on 01/29/2012 6:13:12 PM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Running On Empty

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36 posted on 01/29/2012 11:16:22 PM PST by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: NYer

What’s really amazing is a Catholic priest citing a Protestant Bishop’s prophetic prescience and insight into the coming “great apostacy” , which I believe is upon us now!

Strange bed fellows, Ny’er, strange bed fellows...Christ first, we can watch each other’s backs and argue about religious practise later...though I suspect Christ will supply the final answers!


37 posted on 01/29/2012 11:50:09 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make man into God but to restore fellowship of the Godhead with man.)
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To: mdmathis6
What’s really amazing is a Catholic priest citing a Protestant Bishop’s prophetic prescience and insight into the coming “great apostacy”

Fr. Rutler is a convert. See my post #27.

38 posted on 01/30/2012 6:02:13 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Yes...Father Cutler the converted Catholic priest was still quoting a Protestant, Bishop Samuel Horsely. I still find that amazing! (that the editors at the Cardinal Newman Society let him get away with that.)


39 posted on 01/30/2012 7:14:30 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make man into God but to restore fellowship of the Godhead with man.)
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To: cloudmountain

“The blame lies DIRECTLY with our very own culture which elected the fool and tolerates murder of our own MOST innocent Americans.”

I very much agree with this. Let us pray and fast that our people will experience authentic HEART CONVERSION!


40 posted on 01/30/2012 8:03:37 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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