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Obama’s Former Faith Adviser: ‘I, Frankly, Am Glad American Civil Religion is Dying’
CNSNews.com ^ | January 25, 2012 | Penny Starr

Posted on 01/29/2012 8:37:50 PM PST by Tigen

CNSNews.com) – Shaun Casey, the religious affairs adviser to presidential candidate Barack Obama in 2008, said at a discussion on Tuesday about “God and Politics” that the demise of religious society in the United States is a good thing.

“I, frankly, am glad American civil religion is dying,” said Casey, who is an associate professor of Christian Ethics at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, D.C.

Casey made the remarks at an event focusing on religion and the 2012 presidential election at the liberal Center for American Progress where he was a panelist along with Gabriel Salguero, president of the National Hispanic Evangelical Coalition.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: 2008; atheism; casey; christophobia; christphobia; envy; misotheism; obamastaffer; shauncasey

1 posted on 01/29/2012 8:37:54 PM PST by Tigen
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To: Tigen

The jaw drops!

I am speechless!


2 posted on 01/29/2012 8:40:03 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Tigen

What is “civil religion”???? That “religion” that doesn’t espouse “social justice” (socialism) and chaos?


3 posted on 01/29/2012 8:43:03 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: Tigen

Wesley is spinning in his grave.


4 posted on 01/29/2012 8:47:13 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Tigen

In your dreams, “comrade”.


5 posted on 01/29/2012 8:48:00 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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6 posted on 01/29/2012 8:50:33 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: elcid1970

That’s the depth of Obama’s faith and of his “faith advisor” ack!


7 posted on 01/29/2012 8:50:54 PM PST by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: Tigen

I swear, we (not us here, but the country as a whole) has elected a communist and enemy as President and he brought all of his fellow travellers with him.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 8:54:44 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: Shimmer1

That’s the depth of Obama’s faith and of his “faith advisor” ack!
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All that comes to mind is Jim Jones. (fellow traveler)

He was a good commie.


9 posted on 01/29/2012 8:56:02 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: Tigen

**religion is dying,” **

No, it’s not. And for your information:

The gates of hell shall not prevail against her.”


10 posted on 01/29/2012 8:57:12 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tigen
God may smite me for many things, but I don't think that calling Casey a deviant butthole will be one of them.

I'll log in and post from beyond the grave to let you know if that theory held any water.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

12 posted on 01/29/2012 9:03:21 PM PST by Viking2002 (Hey, Urkel. Frack THIS!)
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To: Tigen
Obama's "religion" advisor is really a Christ rejecting liberal... but as God has written; people like this may hope for the demise of believer-saints, but...

Romans 8:36: As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Romans 8:37: Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Romans 8:38: For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Romans 8:39: Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

God's Truth is deposited in His Word the Bible and His Son is called the WORD of God. Grace believer-saints of God will never fail to uphold His truth deposited in His Word and His Son the WORD of God.

13 posted on 01/29/2012 9:06:24 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: Tigen

It’s dying until the next tragedy brings everyone to their knees asking for God’s help.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 9:12:58 PM PST by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " ....Jesus)
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To: Salvation
I am aware of this for your information.
I am also aware that as satans and obama get closer to their end they will become excessively evil. I see here in this artical Obama’s Former Faith Adviser is attempting to remove the plumb line to the Cornerstone.
15 posted on 01/29/2012 9:14:55 PM PST by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: Salvation

But they will prevail against all those who think like this person.


16 posted on 01/29/2012 9:18:52 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: DarkWaters

they = it


17 posted on 01/29/2012 9:21:21 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Tigen

Wesley Theological Seminary in Wash. D.C. has been drifting to the far-left for decades. Some of their leaders have shown up as sponsors of communist and mixed-leftist protests, as well as supporting pro-PLO fronts in the past.

Welcome to the wonderful world of subversion.

PS: American University and its religious center have had more “chaplains” than Larry King had wives, almost all of the hardcore communists (Tyson, Eldridge) to laughable clowns, Charlie Rothers, and everyone in between.


18 posted on 01/29/2012 9:27:25 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tigen
code phrase for Christianity
19 posted on 01/29/2012 9:30:06 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: Albion Wilde

Wesley was a devout follower of Christ. Today his followers are not.


20 posted on 01/29/2012 9:31:02 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: Tigen

Any commie hates those religions that worship an almighty God. They want the religion of secularism that worships a different god. It is the god of secularism. That god is divinized man. Just to put in in a more historical light, in the 20th century alone, more people were slaughtered under Secularist God-denying governments, and in the name of secularist ideologies, such as Nazism and Communism, than in all the documented religious persecutions within western history combined!


21 posted on 01/29/2012 9:36:28 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Tigen

“Center for American Progress”—Soros subsidized? Yes-I think so.


22 posted on 01/29/2012 9:36:36 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Civil religion is a broad religious culture that has generally agreed upon principals although very different doctrine. Civil religion is usually accepted even by those who are nonreligious because the effects are generally benign or positive.

America's civil religion is Judeo-Christian. Or maybe I should say was. That was why society in general was tolerant of prayer in public events and generally frowned on out of wedlock pregnancy.

The death of Civil Religion leads to more chaos as there are no longer generally accepted mores. There is only law. And government expands more and more to fill the vacancy left.

23 posted on 01/29/2012 9:41:35 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (In the good times praise His name, In the bad times do the same, In everything give thanks)
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To: Tigen

“Major individual donors include George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steve Bing, and Herb and Marion Sandler. The Center receives undisclosed sums from corporate donors.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress


24 posted on 01/29/2012 9:51:59 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Tigen

**Obama’s Former Faith Adviser is attempting to remove the plumb line to the Cornerstone.**

Absolutely. And Willard isn’t much better.

We need to get on our knees and pray and read the Bible!


25 posted on 01/29/2012 9:53:53 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tigen
Casey, who is an associate professor of Christian Ethics at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, D.C.

Another religious institution that is afflicted with cancer

26 posted on 01/29/2012 10:19:23 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Tigen

In your “dreams” Shaun Casey!


27 posted on 01/30/2012 3:15:03 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: jonrick46

Get the word out on that!


28 posted on 01/30/2012 3:16:35 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Salvation

And in the end, God and His Holy Bible word WILL PRVAIL.


29 posted on 01/30/2012 3:20:02 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Tigen

I remember Obama saying something about American civil religion, and it wasn’t referring to what we would mean when we talk about traditional Christianity. Of course, Obama said he supported this civil religion. I think it was referring to the desacralized religion of the social worker or sociologist. The first a civil missionary; the second, the civil equivalent of the theologian. If this is what the guy is referring to as dying, God speed.


30 posted on 01/30/2012 3:20:53 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Tigen

Shaun Casey works for Satan now.


31 posted on 01/30/2012 3:23:46 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: jonrick46
Any commie hates those religions that worship an almighty God.

Leftists are glad America is dying. Hate comes from envy, and so does war. The root cause of war is not religion, but religion makes for a more difficult opponent. Christians have a winning competitive advantage in life, they tend to have more successful marriages, more children, live in bigger houses, drive bigger cars, live longer happier lives, do better in war, sports, and business, and leftists utterly envy them for it. Left unchecked envy matures into hate and violence.

32 posted on 01/30/2012 3:44:00 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Tigen; RushIsMyTeddyBear
Civil religion is not the same thing as Religion in general.

Civil religion
American civil religion

33 posted on 01/30/2012 4:11:52 AM PST by wideminded
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To: Tigen

The only dying part of American religion are the ultra liberal old mainline confessional denominations: ECA, PCUSA, ELCA and the largest Methodist group. Their congregations are dying off and no significant numbers of the young are replacing them. Independent congregations, Pentacostals, Baptists and even the Catholic denomination are increasing and quite healthy thank you very much. Since the cloistered elitists, to the extent they profess to be Christian at all, are in these mainline dying denominations they think all Churches are doing as poorly as theirs are. To the contrary.


34 posted on 01/30/2012 5:05:59 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Albion Wilde

“Wesley is spinning in his grave.”
You got that right! Unfortunately many of the institutions and even the denomination he founded have veered off that venerable man’s course. The United Methodist Church, particularly in the Northeast, is unrecognizable as the church of self sacrificing itinerants who spread the gospel of Christ all over the United States in the early years of our nation, as well as in the years before the Revolution. The legacy of John Wesley rests in the many biblically based churches that continue to stand for truth in our country. In these, the spirit of this godly man continues to inspire.


35 posted on 01/30/2012 5:31:05 AM PST by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: Tigen

In the end times, evil will be called good, and good will be called evil.


36 posted on 01/30/2012 6:05:07 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: circlecity
The only dying part of American religion are the ultra liberal old mainline confessional denominations: ECA, PCUSA, ELCA and the largest Methodist group. Their congregations are dying off and no significant numbers of the young are replacing them. Independent congregations, Pentacostals, Baptists and even the Catholic denomination are increasing and quite healthy thank you very much. Since the cloistered elitists, to the extent they profess to be Christian at all, are in these mainline dying denominations they think all Churches are doing as poorly as theirs are. To the contrary.

Bible preaching/believing non-denominational churches are thriving.

Unfortunately so are churches that preach prosperity gospel (like Joel Olsteen), but those lost souls are seeking things of this world and not heavenly treasures.
37 posted on 01/30/2012 6:09:36 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Wesley was a devout follower of Christ. Today his followers are not.

My point exactly; although if "they" actually were his followers, today's "Methodists" would not be acting the way they do.

I've been reading Wesley's A Plain Account of Christian Perfection. My heart aches for what has become of what was once the bedrock of poor and struggling families.

38 posted on 01/30/2012 6:56:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: sueuprising

And Joanna and Charles Wesley, too; and Fanny Crosby. It’s tragic. But it ain’t over. The church is not a building and it’s not a denomination, either — “but one great fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth.”

Keep loving. It’s worth the price.


39 posted on 01/30/2012 7:03:42 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Reeses

Leftist envy also hates the 10 Commandments which deals with various aspects of envy; including envy of God’s power itself. Envy must be the cardinal sin of mankind. It is also the trump card in the DemonRAT’s playbook (the Race Card for one).


40 posted on 01/30/2012 9:25:44 AM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: jonrick46
Envy must be the cardinal sin of mankind.

Envy is the root cause of most theft, destruction, violence, murder, war, and voting Democrat. Envy though springs from vanity/pride so theologians might say pride is the root cause of all evil.

Envy is what sparks human evolution which occurs mostly during tribal warfare. If it wasn't for envy we would still be in the Garden of Eden happily eating grubs from a stick.

Religion provides a significant competitive advantage during war. The Neanderthals were not religious but the modern humans were and the Neanderthals got killed off.

41 posted on 01/30/2012 11:12:10 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Reeses

Good insights. The Anthropoligical manifestation of envy is something I did not think about. The early Communists knew they were playing with a powerful force of man’s nature.


42 posted on 01/30/2012 11:28:40 AM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Shimmer1; NYer; Salvation; kristinn; IMissPresidentReagan

Speaking of ‘Ethics’:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLBNNrSs34&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


43 posted on 01/31/2012 1:28:48 AM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. God's will be done. Abortion leaves two victims, the mother and the child.)
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To: Tigen

Of course he´s glad. In league with hussein, he wants to destroy the United States too.


44 posted on 01/31/2012 7:15:40 AM PST by onedoug
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