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Many missed the point: Obama quoting Jesus means ALL elected officials get to do the same
2/3/2012 | Laissez-faire Capitalist

Posted on 02/03/2012 8:45:30 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama's erroneous interpretation of Luke 12:48, which drew a rebuke from Sen. Orrin Hatch (over the invoking of the scripture not the interpretation of it) now opens up the door for ALL elected officials to talk about Jesus and how His words apply to political positions or policies on a host of issues, be it tax policy, marriage, the sanctity of life, abortion etc. while some already have done this...

You see, others have talked about "God" and "my faith dictates that I do this or that" but never has anyone went so far as to invoke Jesus' name in connection with a political position, at such a high level, and from a Democrat no less. This opens the way like never before to cite Obama as an example.

People erroneously think that God or Christianity has been driven out of the public square. They have. But more than anything, it has been Jesus Christ who has been driven from the public square.

Hence, why I have no problem with Obama invoking Jesus. The more Jesus, the better.

Thanks, Obama, for opening up the biggest can of worms yet in this area. Others have opened up cans, but not quite this big, because this has received such enormous attention. And a can opening from a liberal Dem no less.


TOPICS: Activism; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; jesus; newt; obama; taxes; vanity
Oh, and liberals can kiss goodbye saying "separation of church and state." If Obama did what he did, being a liberal and all, one who would never violate this, then others can do the same without there being a hint of violating this so-called "separation." :)
1 posted on 02/03/2012 8:45:39 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What say you?


2 posted on 02/03/2012 8:49:24 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Egad! Now the stupid, self-centered politicians and the agenda driven media will start yacking that 0bama is the Tim Tebow of politics.

I may take a knee and hurl.


3 posted on 02/03/2012 8:50:51 AM PST by taxcutisapayraise (Making Statism Unpopular)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I disagree. Everyone in the Ruling Class knows Obama was insincere when he did that. So to the Ruling Class, his invocation of Jesus is not scary—it’s just something you have to do periodically to con the rubes. Insincere invocations of Jesus name are normally praised in the Old Media.

When the rubes invoke Jesus, it is scary to the Ruling Class because the rubes actually mean it. These kind of invocations are invariably followed by Old Media articles about Haggard, snake handling by people with no teeth, guys with tattoos and scary looking guns with crosses etched on the muzzles, and the three Christian Dominionists in the country.


4 posted on 02/03/2012 8:53:22 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Excellent point!

So now, besides Democrats putting words in Jesus's mouth and asserting that He would condone forcing - under threat of imprisonment - rich people to pay higher taxes, in order to finance government-funded abortions, we can also look forward to hearing Conservatives speculating on the stance which the Christ would take on, e.g., trade tariffs, agricultural subsidies, and health care.

Regards,

5 posted on 02/03/2012 8:55:22 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”

KJV, Matthew 6:5


6 posted on 02/03/2012 8:55:32 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Oh. You mean like “civility” in public discourse.

Get wise. Liberals can mention Christ and use Him for their own purposes. Conservatives are evil theocrats when they do so.

Liberals can call conservatives racists, evil-right wingers, haters of the poor and colored, even running dogs of capitalism. Conservatives cannot even call liberals liberals if polls show this is a bad thing for liberals.

This is the way it has always been, and it isn’t going to change.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 8:57:54 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
All it really means is the chaplain in the house of reprehensibles is now going to be required to end his session-opening prayers with the words: “...in Jesus’ name we Tax, Amen”
8 posted on 02/03/2012 8:58:22 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Why is Bishop Willard Mitt Romney not using his title? What is he trying to hide? Do we want the elder of any faith to serve as President? We need to have this conversation now!


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9 posted on 02/03/2012 9:00:23 AM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I'm shocked that it even made it to the airwaves. Saying Jesus on TV will get you a bleep.

@ ABC bleeps 'Jesus' out of broadcast

10 posted on 02/03/2012 9:10:33 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Old Sarge

Jesus said that what he told His disciples in secret they were to speak openly about.

Jesus: “Do men light a candle and put it under a bushel?”

“No, so let your light shine before all men.”


11 posted on 02/03/2012 9:12:04 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: philman_36

What about Shiva or Vishnu, or Buddha, or...

Do they get bleeped?

I wonder.


12 posted on 02/03/2012 9:14:43 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I'm trying something out and it didn't work that time so ignore this while I try that again...
@ ABC bleeps 'Jesus' out of broadcast
13 posted on 02/03/2012 9:17:40 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: chesley

Talk about an attitude of defeat.

All it takes is pushing back.

And then saying in retort to them “How dare you call Obama an evil theocrat.”


14 posted on 02/03/2012 9:18:13 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I just need to @ retrain the brain a little.
15 posted on 02/03/2012 9:20:19 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Oh, and liberals can kiss goodbye saying "separation of church and state." If Obama did what he did, being a liberal and all, one who would never violate this, then others can do the same without there being a hint of violating this so-called "separation." :)

What is clearly being forgotten in such a pronouncement is that there are a set of standards for liberals and then another set for all the rest of us.
16 posted on 02/03/2012 9:24:10 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It is just incredible; how 'Jesus' is used as a messenger of convenience; and when message comes from Obama's mouth; it seems almost a defilement. Thanks, Obama for translating or rather 'manipulating' what constitutes charitable virtue. 'Charitiy begins at home' means something; the obvious truth is; that it can only exist in the 'heart'/mind and in the free will; of the 'giver'.

(All from the man who gave 'how much' in 'charitable contributions' on his tax return? One percent?)

OTOH; the 'confiscation'; the taking of goods/money from another; is STEALING and the class warfare Obama engenders is no more than creating a 'coveting' of neighbors goods, as well.

No doubt; the 'lie'o'meter' starts to hum; when Obama places himself in same sentence with 'Christian'.

Could be some great Repub ads off this asinine political sermonizing; but we can rest assured; there will not be.

17 posted on 02/03/2012 9:55:26 AM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Already stated.
18 posted on 02/03/2012 10:04:01 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“Defeatist”? Realistic, you mean.

I have nothing against push-back, though. And it drives liberals bat crazy when you point out their hypocrisy using their own words.

Still, you never address the point that Obama is not a hypocritical preacher nevertheless preaching the true Gospes, but a false prophet preaching a flase gospel. This is what almost everyone commenting is trying to tell you, and you just don’t seem to get it.


19 posted on 02/03/2012 10:09:14 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The little messiah is a blasphemer .

In Luke 12 HE was speaking to his Disciples “ first of all “

HE was speaking specifically to Peter in verse 48 and to his Disciples in general. In FULL CONTEXT HE was stating the burden and responsibilities of direct followers,47” And that servant ( Christian),which knew his Lords` will, and prepared not himself,neither did according to His will, shall be beaten with many stripes.” versus those that know not , 48 “ But he that knew not,and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given ( Christ`s words/Faith),of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask more.”

CLEARLY CHRIST IS SPEAKING OF BELIEVERS AND FAITH, NOT TAXES, COVETING, STEALING AND MONEY.

BARRY HUSSEIN IS A BLASPHEMER


20 posted on 02/03/2012 10:13:20 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

...and since Orrin Hatch is a Mormon, he can’t reply to Obama in the first place.


21 posted on 02/03/2012 12:01:30 PM PST by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Just like the serpent in the garden he misquotes scripture in an attempt to seduce those who don’t know scripture.


22 posted on 02/03/2012 3:02:15 PM PST by Lera
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To: cricket

Everything Obama says about Jesus is filtered through his Muslim faith. That is why he sounds the way he does. Obama quoting Jesus is identical to when commie libs quote snippets of Reagan. It is to dupe the weak or to try to bolster their twisted, backward arguments.


23 posted on 02/03/2012 3:03:18 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
No question; when it comes to Obama's 'message'; and his arrogant/insulting 'sermonizing' under a fraudulent Christian ID; it rings hollow; inauthentic. For certain; those who have eyes and ears that can, respectively; see and hear; do not need a lie-0-meter - or a body language expert- or anyone, for that matter; to tell them, the 'truth' of Obama.

We do need more determined Leadership; that will face the truth, however; and do something 'official'; before it is to late to stop the lie/I>; who calls himself Obama.

24 posted on 02/03/2012 5:46:49 PM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
And yes; do think a great deal of Obama's 'calls' reflect his Muslim faith or sympathies. It is inescapable. In fact; the only time Obama actually seems authentic; sincere; is when he IS speaking of Islam. . .or showing deference to it by word or deed. Speaking of it as the 'revealed' religion; and of course; you could actually feel Obama's humility (otherwise non-existent) when he took that deep bow to Arab King.

Not once; but twice. . .and so many other examples.

25 posted on 02/03/2012 5:57:32 PM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: cricket

Obama’s 2011 Ramadan message, “Today, I want to wish Muslims across America and around the world, a blessed month as you welcome the beginning of Ramadan. May God’s peace be upon you.”

His 2011 Christmas message didn’t even mention Christ, let alone wish Christians around the world any blessed anything. In fact, 80% of it was about the military. I’m pretty sure Christmas is not a military holiday, but a Holy Day for everyone.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY president jackass is not a radical Muslim. Anybody who can’t see that is willfully blind.


26 posted on 02/04/2012 10:34:06 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY president jackass is not a radical Muslim. Anybody who can’t see that is willfully blind.

Agree; certainly Islam is where his heart lies; and where his lies begin. Hard to count the ways in which this man is a fraud; altogether, incredible, really.

27 posted on 02/04/2012 1:48:18 PM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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