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Youth pastor accused of sexually abusing boy for 10 years
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 26 Jan 2012 | Wayne K Roustan

Posted on 02/04/2012 12:13:50 AM PST by Cronos

A Broward teenager is accusing a Fort Lauderdale youth pastor of sexually molesting him for the past 10 years, according to the Broward Sheriff's Office.

Jeffery London, 48, was arrested Wednesday night at his home in Lauderdale Lakes after returning from conducting Bible study at the Bible Church of God in Fort Lauderdale, sheriff's officials said.

The accuser, now 18 years old, recently told a friend from church that he had been abused repeatedly over the decade he lived with London. The alleged victim's mother had left him in London's care when he was 8 after she faced financial difficulties, according to the investigative report.

Besides working at the Bible Church of God, London was the dean of students at Eagle Charter Academy in Lauderdale Lakes from 2003-2009, was a counselor at the Boys and Girls Club in Fort Lauderdale and could have worked at other area schools and churches, investigators said.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: catholic; dispensational; homosexualagenda; pentecostal
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1 posted on 02/04/2012 12:13:55 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Wow! Really? That’s a suprise.


2 posted on 02/04/2012 12:43:21 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: BigCinBigD

Ya—really-—another homosexual who is intrinsically disordered allowed to work with boys......Great combo. What great people those boys will grow up to be having such a “loving” mentor and learning that behavior. Just like Jerry Brown’s CA schools will be-—teaching little boys about sodomy. Great idea, Brown (evil bast*rd).

People like this should be executed.


3 posted on 02/04/2012 12:50:26 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just LawD)
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To: savagesusie

Walked outside, thrown to the ground and shot like a rabid dog.


4 posted on 02/04/2012 12:53:19 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Cronos

If true, they should hang him.


5 posted on 02/04/2012 1:46:18 AM PST by microgood
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To: BigCinBigD

From woodchipper to hog trough.


6 posted on 02/04/2012 4:45:44 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Cronos

The ‘pastor’ is evil personified. The boy is merely stupid.


7 posted on 02/04/2012 5:39:01 AM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: IbJensen
The ‘pastor’ is evil personified. The boy is merely stupid.

The boy who was only 8 years old at the time the abuse began was “stupid”? Explain to me how that works.

I guess you believe the victim actually asked for it and had it coming to him?

8 posted on 02/04/2012 5:50:47 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Ten years?


9 posted on 02/04/2012 5:53:54 AM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Cronos

He was reported, arrested, charged, and will face trial for what he has done, which is how crime should be handled. He is being held to account.

Note that he was not treated as if he had some sort of diplomatic immunity and shipped off to some other place to do it all over again.

When the day comes that all religious authority figures are reported, arrested, charged and face trial, will be the day that criticism of the Catholic Church regarding the handling of these matters will be moot and should cease.

Until then, dredging up articles on sexual predators that aren’t Catholic priests and posting them to FR really only points out that mankind is fallen and corrupt, therefore prone to sin. It also inadvertantly points out the gaping chasm as far as how these crimes are dealt with by comparison.


10 posted on 02/04/2012 6:04:30 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: IbJensen
Ten years?

So what is your cut off; abused once, twice but the third time is the charm, one year, two years, therefore anything after that is somehow the kid’s responsibility, that they become responsible for their own abuse?

The kid was young and innocent when put into the care of a supposedly caring responsible adult. That adult abused him. That adult abused him over the course of many years. The kid, any kid in that situation might be lead to believe and conditioned that the abuse was somehow “normal” especially if no one came to his defense all those years.

At age 18 he finally realized that what happened to him was not at all “normal”. And somehow you still find blame in the victim? He’s “stupid “for being abused as a child? Really?

11 posted on 02/04/2012 6:26:03 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

I’d have some pointed questions for the victim, since he continued past the age of consent and into adulthood. Victims of repeated abuse often believe they invited it somehow, or that they’re equally at fault. It could be that this boy allowed it out of fear of losing a roof over his head and food to eat, since he was surrendered by his mother, who could not support him. Or, it could be a vendetta, give me this or I’ll turn you in. These things aren’t known.

What is known and what does not relieve this so-called youth pastor of his sin and his crime, is that he was in a position of trust and was his de facto guardian if not legally so. He stands accused of having committed a crime in having sexual contact with a minor, and he compounded that by continuing for years.


12 posted on 02/04/2012 6:27:37 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: RegulatorCountry
When the day comes that all religious authority figures are reported, arrested, charged and face trial,

Even the ones who haven't committed any crime???

We effectively are at a point now in this country where priests can't permit themselves to be alone with anyone under the age of 18. ANYONE involved with Catholic kids in a capacity relating to the church has to pass a background check. That includes moms driving kids on school field trips! We have lawyers openly trolling in prisons for men who will testify that they were abused by priests.

Just how draconian do things have to get before you're satisfied? You will never completely eradicate child abuse in the Catholic Church, in the school, or in the home, or anywhere else, any more than you'll completely eradicate any other category of sin.

13 posted on 02/04/2012 6:47:08 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Cronos

You mean when they found out about it he was arrested and charged with a crime? What a concept!


14 posted on 02/04/2012 6:55:32 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Campion

Reading the complete sentence would remove the apparently imagined gotcha. I may not belong to your church and I may criticize it, sometimes vehemently, but to attempt to paint me as some sort of totalitarian advocating the arrest of all clergy is just ludicrous.

Reading the last sentence of the same reply addresses your own last sentence and shows it to be equally erroneous.


15 posted on 02/04/2012 7:02:02 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: Campion

We effectively are at a point now in this country where priests can’t permit themselves to be alone with anyone under the age of 18.


This happened in the Boy Scouts, too. There was a culture of homosexual perverts and protectors and they had weaseled themselves deeply into the organization. The abuse of boys was coordinated and wide spread.

After a number of law suits and thousands of victims, the rules were changed on men interacting with boys to make it more difficult for perverts to abuse boys and for shyster lawyers to apply false charges, and that is not a bad thing. The Catholic Church is wise to have this policy for the protection of clergy and boys.

Like the Boy Scouts, the Catholic Church was infiltrated by homosexuals through corrupt seminaries and the official policy was to protect the perverts to protect the reputation and coffers of the church organization. We have yet to come to grips with it, but the public schools are the same.

We live in an aggressively fallen world. The most aggressive and ravishing for boys is homosexuality posing as trustworthy male adult leaders. :(


16 posted on 02/04/2012 8:17:52 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: RegulatorCountry
I’d have some pointed questions for the victim, since he continued past the age of consent and into adulthood. Victims of repeated abuse often believe they invited it somehow, or that they’re equally at fault. It could be that this boy allowed it out of fear of losing a roof over his head and food to eat, since he was surrendered by his mother, who could not support him. Or, it could be a vendetta, give me this or I’ll turn you in. These things aren’t known.

So an 8 year old boy is capable or likely to have had a vendetta and coerced an adult male who is not a pedophile to grant the 8 year old sexual favors in return for not “turning him in”? I guess it could happen, might happen, but I don’t think that’s all that likely for an 8 year old.

And I’m not sure what you mean by the “age of consent”. That term means different things in different States and under different circumstances. There is no “magic” birthday, no one date on the calendar on which a person, male or female suddenly becomes a consenting adult or reaches the “age of reason”.

A kid who is raised in a normal, stable loving home and taught right and wrong from an early age, taught what “bad touching” is, taught that they don’t have to submit and unconditionally trust any adult just because they are in a position of authority, taught to trust their parents and to be safe to tell them anything as long as it’s the truth, might be in a much better position and at a much earlier age to fend off the advances of a pedophile. On the other hand a venerable kid from a broken home, with no support or guidance, given over to the care of someone supposedly there to protect and care for them? Probably not so much. Therefore there is no easy one answer fits all to determining when the age of consent or age of reason has passed or not.

And a kid who has been sexually abused by a supposedly trusted and caring adult, is probably going to be emotionally delayed and very confused, often well into their own adulthood.

What is known and what does not relieve this so-called youth pastor of his sin and his crime, is that he was in a position of trust and was his de facto guardian if not legally so. He stands accused of having committed a crime in having sexual contact with a minor, and he compounded that by continuing for years.

I will agree that whenever an accusation is made, especially many years after the fact, the accused has a right to the legal presumption of innocence in the court of law and the accuser must be able to give truthful testimony, hopefully with substantiation of the facts presented. Not all accusations in these sorts of cases are true, some are made years after the fact for reasons of personal vendetta or the hope of collecting a large monetary settlement.

However, in those cases where a kid has been abused, it doesn’t matter if it started when the kid was 5 or 8 or 12 or continued through their late teens. It’s not as if a kid or young adult suddenly wakes up one day and says “this is wrong”. They’ve often been slowly conditioned and groomed to accept it by the pedophile. Sometimes it is likewise a slow awakening and acceptance that it was wrong and not their fault before they can admit what happened to them or trust any adult to believe them.

17 posted on 02/04/2012 8:28:04 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

You misunderstood. Speculation about a “vendetta” would be more toward the 18 year old adult and a motivation for finally reporting this, not the 8 year old he was when the reported abuse is supposed to have begun.


18 posted on 02/04/2012 8:44:47 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: RegulatorCountry
You misunderstood. Speculation about a “vendetta” would be more toward the 18 year old adult and a motivation for finally reporting this, not the 8 year old he was when the reported abuse is supposed to have begun.

I’m sorry. I didn’t exactly misunderstand your post but perhaps didn’t make that clear. And I mentioned the vendetta or monetary gain angle when an adult makes these claims many years after the fact. That has to be considered during an investigation. That an adult makes a claim many years after the fact doesn’t mean it isn’t true and didn’t happen but I would think the legal bar to prove such a claim would, at least I hope be a bit higher, that there would be witnesses, physical evidence or some other corroborating evidence. Otherwise at age 51, some kid I knew in Bible school when I was 12 years old could make the claim I abused him or her and I’d be left with little to prove my innocence.

OTOH, I would however clarify that just because a person is 18 and the abuse continued up until or near that age doesn’t mean the 18 year old is somehow responsible because at some “magic” age before then, say 12, 14 16, they should have suddenly become aware and have the wherewithal to stop the abuse and report it because of some arbitrary “age of consent” or “age of reason”.

19 posted on 02/04/2012 9:04:14 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Did the youth live in an orphanage? Did he ever even consider talking the matter over with a parent or two?


20 posted on 02/04/2012 9:10:24 AM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: IbJensen
Did the youth live in an orphanage? Did he ever even consider talking the matter over with a parent or two?

Go back and read the article. “The alleged victim's mother had left him in London's care when he was 8 after she faced financial difficulties, according to the investigative report.”

No mention of a father BTW and the mother willingly gave her son over to the perp’s care. Doesn’t sound like he came from a family with a parent or two he could trust or talk things over with.

21 posted on 02/04/2012 9:17:44 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Continuing on with permitting the behavior after becoming legally able to consent casts the victim in a different light in the eyes of a jury. Whether it strikes you as arbitrary or not, the law is what is being brought to bear, here. If guilt is established beyond reasonable doubt, then come sentencing considerations, and that will likely diminish perception of the severity of the damage done to the victim. Still a crime and still wrong, but punishment may be lessened as a result.


22 posted on 02/04/2012 9:41:43 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Continuing on with permitting the behavior after becoming legally able to consent casts the victim in a different light in the eyes of a jury. Whether it strikes you as arbitrary or not, the law is what is being brought to bear, here. If guilt is established beyond reasonable doubt, then come sentencing considerations, and that will likely diminish perception of the severity of the damage done to the victim. Still a crime and still wrong, but punishment may be lessened as a result.

So just where do you determine the age at which the victim became legally able to consent? Was it when he was 12, 14, 16?

What you seem to be saying is that a victim of sexual child abuse is at some arbitrary point in time, on one date on the calendar a victim and then magically the very next day on the calendar able to consent and therefore a willing participant even if they are still under 18 at the time and the perp had complete control over them?

So at 8 it was abuse, but then at 12 or 16, he must have come to like it and encouraged it therefore diminishing the severity of the damage done to the victim and lessening the punishment of the abuser? Really? Really?

23 posted on 02/04/2012 9:54:54 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
So just where do you determine the age at which the victim became legally able to consent? Was it when he was 12, 14, 16?

The law makes that determination and the law is what is being brought to bear. That he continued on as an adult legally able to consent will potentially affect sentencing for the crime. It's not what I'm saying, there is no magic. Minor children under the law at some point reach their majority and become accountable adults under the law.

There have been and continue to be efforts to lower the age of consent to age 12. Direct your ire to those who would pervert the law to satisfy their perversions, rather than at me. I'm merely pointing out the implications present.

24 posted on 02/04/2012 10:10:01 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: RegulatorCountry
The law makes that determination and the law is what is being brought to bear. That he continued on as an adult legally able to consent will potentially affect sentencing for the crime. It's not what I'm saying, there is no magic. Minor children under the law at some point reach their majority and become accountable adults under the law.

There have been and continue to be efforts to lower the age of consent to age 12. Direct your ire to those who would pervert the law to satisfy their perversions, rather than at me. I'm merely pointing out the implications present.

Nice dodge, but you still didn’t answer my question. At what point would YOU consider a minor child, one under the age of 18 legally able to consent to sexual abuse by a much older adult in a position of authority that started when the victim was well below any age of consent or even the age of 12?

Was any of Sandusky’s victims any less culpable because his victim should have been old enough to know better?

I think you are confusing the age of consent in cases of a consensual relationship between two minors under the age of 18 and that of a sexual predator of a minor. No one consents to rape. And certainly not any child.

25 posted on 02/04/2012 10:30:47 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

And it seems to me that you’re being obtuse for some odd reason. I have not dodged anything. The crime of sexually molesting a minor remains a crime, and he should be charged with every single instance as a separate charge.

The victim allowing the behavior extending into his legal adulthood and legal ability to consent will shade the perception of severity, however. It’s reality. Legalities are what are at issue, however they’re established and whether or not I agree with the year so established. It’s currently seventeen in North Carolina. That seems reasonable.

I have an aunt who married at age fourteen, though. Was she a victim of statutory rape sixty years ago? No, she wasn’t. She was given in marriage by her father, into holy matrimony and has remained in that union. It was not at all uncommon in rural areas for women, certainly, to marry very young. Males typically waited until they could support a wife and family, after working a few years.

The legal age of consent had nothing to do with whether or not this so-called “youth pastor” repeatedly molested a boy in his charge for years, beginning at age eight. It does, however, have everything to do with prosecuting him. You don’t seem willing to understand that, so I’m going to end the discussion, as it has been rendered pointless.


26 posted on 02/04/2012 10:43:40 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: RegulatorCountry
that mankind is fallen and corrupt, therefore prone to sin

Yup, stained... all...

27 posted on 02/05/2012 12:08:13 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Or, it could be a vendetta, give me this or I’ll turn you in. These things aren’t known.

True. That is why it is so difficult to prove. Some posters here on FR have even said that if anyone is even accused of this they should be tossed in prison immediately. Of course, if you ask them what about innocent until proven guilty they say they don't care.

If you tell that if someone is even accused of this and proven innocent with no doubt it still can destroy their life, they say "who cares"...

28 posted on 02/05/2012 12:11:35 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: microgood

yup, pastors, priests, teachers, etc. who are proven guilty with no doubt should get the strongest possible punishment in this life (they’ll get worse in the next...)


29 posted on 02/05/2012 12:13:07 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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