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Last Temptation of Castro: Get Religion [To be Received Back into Church During Papal Visit]
Cranmer ^ | 2/4/12

Posted on 02/05/2012 2:58:27 PM PST by marshmallow

Fidel Castro will be received back into the communion of the Roman Catholic Church during Pope Benedict XVI’s visit to the island in March, the Italian press is reporting. If true, this is a remarkable story — and one that has yet to catch the attention of editors this side of the Atlantic.

On 1 Feb 2012, La Republicca — [Italy’s second largest circulation daily newspaper, La Republicca follows a center-left political line and is strongly anti-clerical; not anti-Catholic per se but a critic of the institutional church] — reported that as death approaches, the octogenarian communist has turned to God for solace.

ABC’s Global Note news blog is the only U.S. general interest publication I have found that has reported this story. It referenced the La Republicca story and said that Castro’s

daughter Alina is quoted as saying “During this last period, Fidel has come closer to religion: he has rediscovered Jesus at the end of his life. It doesn’t surprise me because dad was raised by Jesuits.” The article quotes an unidentified high prelate in the Vatican who is working on the Pope’s Cuba trip: “Fidel is at the end of his strength. Nearly at the end of his life. His exhortations in the party paper Granma, are increasingly less frequent. We know that in this last period he has come closer to religion and God.”

Some Italian websites have even speculated as to when Fidel will make his confession and credo — setting the date as 27 March 2012 at 17:30 when the two ottantacinquenni, Pope Benedict XVI and Castro, will meet at the Palacio de la Revolución when the pope makes his official visit to the head of state, Raul Castro.

During Pope John Paul II’s 1998 visit to Cuba, Castro attended mass, but did...........

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1 posted on 02/05/2012 2:58:34 PM PST by marshmallow
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2 posted on 02/05/2012 3:01:00 PM PST by narses
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To: marshmallow

The Pope should refuse to absolve this sins if he doesn’t agree to dismantle his regime.


3 posted on 02/05/2012 3:02:16 PM PST by WeatherGuy
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To: WeatherGuy

this = his


4 posted on 02/05/2012 3:03:24 PM PST by WeatherGuy
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To: marshmallow

Castro was once a devout Catholic, before he apostatized. I remember hearing how humble he was after saving the life of a drowning priest when he was 18.


5 posted on 02/05/2012 3:03:52 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: marshmallow

The reason this isn’t making news here is because the Commie Leftists in the newsrooms are fit to be tied that their hero is finding religion again. Fidel’s confession will be a week long event if he is being truthful.


6 posted on 02/05/2012 3:06:55 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: WeatherGuy; narses

This brings up very serious theological issues about absolution: can someone have don so much evil in his life that it is beyond the Church to grant it? Millions of deaths of innocents can be indirectly laid at castro’s feet and thousands directly there.

FWIIW and I am not joking: I always sided with the son who stayed home.


7 posted on 02/05/2012 3:13:49 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: marshmallow

I’d love to hear Ron Kuby’s (whose mommy is a Commie) reaction to this afterwards.


8 posted on 02/05/2012 3:18:23 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: marshmallow

I’d love to hear Ron Kuby’s (whose mommy is a Commie) reaction to this afterwards.


9 posted on 02/05/2012 3:18:22 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: marshmallow
Buying a ticket on the ark, huh?

Ahmadinejad must be disappointed. Didn't he try to convert Castro to islam a few years back?

10 posted on 02/05/2012 3:24:12 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: freedumb2003

Simple——God knows what’s in your heart—it’s called “TRUE CONTRITION”


11 posted on 02/05/2012 3:28:41 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: marshmallow

When JP II visited Cuba, I suspected that something like this might happen. Castro was surprisingly respectful, and it was somewhat astonishing that he ever agreed to the visit.

But not until he has decided the end is coming for him, evidently.


12 posted on 02/05/2012 3:37:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marshmallow

Pray for the Pope’s safety.


13 posted on 02/05/2012 3:45:31 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: freedumb2003

” can someone have don so much evil in his life that it is beyond the Church to grant it?”

It’s really not up to the Earthly Church to make the final decision, is it? My personal opinion is that no matter what the Earthly Churches decision is, Castro ends up in Hell.


14 posted on 02/05/2012 3:55:22 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marshmallow

God is concerned only with the salvation of the soul. Naturally He would prefer it be early in the day, but even if it takes place one minute to Midnight, the angels rejoice, and so should we.

We have to hate the sin, but love the sinner.

As difficult as it may be personally, I intend to pray sincerely for Fidel Castro’s salvation.


15 posted on 02/05/2012 3:58:44 PM PST by mkjessup
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To: freedumb2003
There is no one who is beyond the redemptive power of the Blood of Christ and who will not be received by Him if that person turns to Christ in saving faith. The thief and murderer on the Cross could not save himself by any work but turning towards Christ in faith.

If you read The Cross and the Swastika, Field Marshal Keitel repented; and Albert Speer’s life was changed towards meditation of better things. However, Goering regarded salvation as a cheat and a game.

I'm not going to argue that faith alone saves because faith alone involves at least one item of work, and works are invalid without faith behind them. If Castro will be saved, God will save him. Yet it seems to me that this if there is a Purgatory, this is where Castro would need to be, to purge himself of the besetting sins and be made perfect for the Heavenly Kingdom.

16 posted on 02/05/2012 4:03:34 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: mkjessup
As has already been noted on this thread, I assume he's going to renounce Communism and implicitly dismantle his regime.

Otherwise The Pope wouldn't "let him back in", right?

17 posted on 02/05/2012 4:04:32 PM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: mkjessup
As has already been noted on this thread, I assume he's going to renounce Communism and implicitly dismantle his regime.

Otherwise The Pope wouldn't "let him back in", right?

18 posted on 02/05/2012 4:06:12 PM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: mkjessup
As has already been noted on this thread, I assume he's going to renounce Communism and implicitly dismantle his regime.

Otherwise The Pope wouldn't "let him back in", right?

19 posted on 02/05/2012 4:06:30 PM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: mkjessup
Speaking of Whom...

Lord, please forgive me for the triple-post.

20 posted on 02/05/2012 4:09:19 PM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; metmom; CynicalBear; Dr. Eckleburg
You mean Christ did not die for Castro's sins? I thought He died for all our sins. "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." That would include ALL. And that we are saved by the blood of Christ. That would include ALL who accept the finished work of Christ for our salvation.

But you're telling me that it is the CHURCH who grants absolution for our sin? And that the Church can decide who gets absolution and who doesn't? Then why did Christ have to die for our sins?

"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He quickened together with Him, HAVING FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES." Col. 2:13.

God's Word says that HE forgives us all trespasses. It doesn't say the "CHURCH" does.

Does God know that it may be beyond the Church to grant absolution to anyone, even Castro? "Sorry. I know that you are part of ALL, and I died for your sins, just as everyone else, but the Church says it cannot absolve you. So..."

21 posted on 02/05/2012 4:13:25 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: marshmallow

**turned to God for solace.**

This happens with many lapsed Catholics as they approach death. They realize that the only way for them at that point in their life is to be reconciled with Jesus.


22 posted on 02/05/2012 4:14:54 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mkjessup

Like my niece said after my step-father’s funeral in December, too much God in the service (offending her les-bi-an liberal senses... and to which her lesbian mother, aka, my sister replied “yea too much religion”. After mentioning to them that many of the churchs in Europe have only old in attendance, they both said they would live their lives in sin up to their old age and then convert, but for now they are in doubt of God. Maybe they will live long and convert or maybe the reaper will cut them down without salvation.... Who knows, and really at some point who can really waste their time on Earth caring about those who reject religion. Safety net and Obama is all they need.


23 posted on 02/05/2012 4:26:10 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Salvation

Fear of death will do that to you.

The prodigal son syndrome.


24 posted on 02/05/2012 4:29:52 PM PST by Venturer
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To: smvoice; freedumb2003; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Dr. Eckleburg

Unless Castro accepts Christ as his savior and puts his trust completely in him for salvation there is nothing the RCC can do to prevent him from going to hell.


25 posted on 02/05/2012 4:38:47 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: marshmallow

We probably won’t be privy to his private discussions. But we would know a lot about the genuineness of his conversion by the nature of what he has to say about it.

If he knows he needs Christ, does he then accept that Cuba also needs Jesus Christ? Does he recognize that his life’s project, separate from Christ, could only bring misery? Does he understand that his legacy, his attempt to banish Christ from Cuba is fifty years of misery for his people?

When you accept Christ one of the first things you must do and want to do is profess it openly. If he is genuine that is one of the things he will do. So doing he undermines everything his regime stands for. If he can’t do it, we will have our answer.

Kings can be saved. Not every king will have that kind of humility, though, even facing the end. Castro was King of Cuba for fifty years but even kings die and face judgement. He faces a dilemma; if he professes Christ and does so openly and humbly he admits his entire kingship was illegitimate but he saves his soul. If he tries to save his place in history, he forfeits his soul.


26 posted on 02/05/2012 4:45:20 PM PST by marron
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To: CynicalBear
You're right. Just as unless sweet Aunt Bea, the kindest daily mass attending, CC teacher that has ever baked pies for the church socials, accepts Christ as her Savior and puts her trust completely in Him for salvation, there is nothing the RCC can do to prevent her from going to hell.

Aunt Bea and Castro are the same, in God's eyes. Lost sinners, dead in their sins, and in need of Christ's finished work for their salvation. That is, according to God's Word. But not according to the Catholic Church. Aunt Bea could not POSSIBLY be in danger of going to hell. She's just....so GOOD...and Castro is obviously so BAD...

They stumble at the stumblingstone.

27 posted on 02/05/2012 4:51:39 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice

What would you do without the strawman church you’ve invented for yourself?


28 posted on 02/05/2012 4:58:09 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: WeatherGuy

Good article, if true


29 posted on 02/05/2012 5:07:37 PM PST by mgist
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Fortunately Gods mercy is beyond our understanding. St Paul, Judas, and millions of other horrific sinners are a testament to that. That is the amazing beauty of Jesus. Maybe like Judas, Castro was simply serving God’s plans for redemption for a nation that abandoned His teachings. Castro was raised with a quality Jesuit education, and like many Cubans of his genre abandoned his faith for worldly pursuits. He would not be the first to stray and eventually go back to his roots. Assuming this Article is true, of course.


30 posted on 02/05/2012 5:17:02 PM PST by mgist
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Fortunately Gods mercy is beyond our understanding. St Paul, Judas, and millions of other horrific sinners are a testament to that. That is the amazing beauty of Jesus. Maybe like Judas, Castro was simply serving God’s plans for redemption for a nation that abandoned His teachings. Castro was raised with a quality Jesuit education, and like many Cubans of his genre abandoned his faith for worldly pursuits. He would not be the first to stray and eventually go back to his roots. Assuming this Article is true, of course.


31 posted on 02/05/2012 5:17:25 PM PST by mgist
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To: freedumb2003
No, when Jesus instituted the priesthood, He said to the Apostles, “What sins you shall forgive they will be forgiven....”

The attitude of the son who stayed home is similar to the attitude of those who were hired for vineyard work at the beginning of the day, when they found out they received the same wages as those who were hired at the end. God asks, “Are you angry because I am so generous?”

The Mercy of God is His greatest attribute because He wills It to be so.

32 posted on 02/05/2012 5:19:52 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: notaliberal

It’s not contrition when you keep sinning.

Throw open the jails, and make restitution to the widows, and then we can talk about “contrition.”


33 posted on 02/05/2012 5:30:09 PM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: freedumb2003

Castro needs to meet Mussolini’s end. As to the hereafter, that’s out of my hands.


34 posted on 02/05/2012 5:32:35 PM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: D-fendr
So, the Gospel of the Grace of God, which, when believed, is when the Holy Spirit places us into the Church the Body of Christ, is now a strawman to you?

"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid unto them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." 2 Cor. 4:3,4.

35 posted on 02/05/2012 5:36:44 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: notaliberal
Simple——God knows what’s in your heart—it’s called “TRUE CONTRITION"

Castro is 85 years old and he is scared...just plain scared. So, he runs back to God. Just like a bad little boy who knows he's done bad but has nowhere to go. He skulks back home to face the music, rather than be in worse trouble.

FEAR OF THE LORD.

36 posted on 02/05/2012 5:39:57 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Venturer

Would you deny him the chance of salvation?

God won’t. No church would, and I don’t care if it is the pope himself hearing Castro’s repentance or the most humble Baptist preacher you can find.

He committed great sins. If he truly repents, he will eventually be with God, and that is a cause for celebration.

Of course, according to our theology, he is going to spend a LONG time in purgatory ....


37 posted on 02/05/2012 5:46:24 PM PST by EnglishCon
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To: Venturer

Oh, good lord.

Replied to the wrong person - AGAIN!

My apologies!


38 posted on 02/05/2012 5:47:54 PM PST by EnglishCon
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To: CynicalBear

“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “


39 posted on 02/05/2012 6:04:06 PM PST by narses
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Don’t bother getting distracted by the haters. Just some misguided souls that were led astray, like St. Paul who felt that attacking Christians beliefs was/is a noble pursuit. They didn’t get certain parts of Jesus’ teachings such as “whoever is not against us”, is with us. As well as “stop looking at the splinter in your neighbors eye, and remove the log in your own” (not verbatum) lol


40 posted on 02/05/2012 6:04:33 PM PST by mgist
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To: smvoice

41 posted on 02/05/2012 6:05:24 PM PST by narses
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To: Larry Lucido

God knows all!


42 posted on 02/05/2012 6:06:12 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: smvoice
So, the Gospel of the Grace of God…is now a strawman to you?

Huh? I guess I mistakenly assumed you would understand the question and perhaps what a strawman was.

In any case, I was thinking the answer to the question: "What would you do without the strawman church you’ve invented for yourself?" would be closer to:

"Find something else to hate in order to define my 'religion.' "

43 posted on 02/05/2012 6:28:19 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: narses
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Acts 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness by granting them the holy Spirit just as he did us. 9 He made no distinction between us and them, for by faith he purified their hearts.

No faith, no pure heart. It’s pure blasphemy to attribute what is Christ’s to the RCC.

44 posted on 02/05/2012 6:30:10 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

45 posted on 02/05/2012 6:37:17 PM PST by narses
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To: Venturer

The prodigal son was not about fear of death, but God’s infinite forgiveness when contritefully sought.


46 posted on 02/05/2012 6:40:18 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: EnglishCon
“Of course, according to our theology, he is going to spend a LONG time in purgatory ....”

Not if he were to gain a plenary indulgence.

http://www.catholic.org/clife/prayers/indulgc.php

God's Mercy is infinite. The value of Jesus’ act of redemption is infinite, and therefore, the treasury of the Church is infinite.

47 posted on 02/05/2012 6:52:30 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: CynicalBear

And how does YOUR church fulfill these Biblical words of Christ?


48 posted on 02/05/2012 7:08:08 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

We guard against the cultish practices and beliefs of the RCC. Those who accept the gospel of salvation are forgiven and those who reject it are not forgiven of their sins. God alone can forgive sins. It is the mark of the anti Christ to presume to be able to forgive sins.


49 posted on 02/05/2012 7:51:06 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; Lauren BaRecall

Lauren BaRecall asked “And how does YOUR church fulfill these Biblical words of Christ?”

“His Church”?

He has the odd view that Catholics are idolaters, that those who celebrate Easter and Christmas are pagans and claims that the idea of church on Sunday is a man made tradition and apparently not either Christian or Biblical.

Given that this is the point of view from which CynicalBear appears to see the world, why should anyone pay attention to his odd, often incomplete and often incoherent screeds?


50 posted on 02/05/2012 8:26:55 PM PST by narses
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