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How Obama Lost the Catholic Vote
Townhall ^ | February 8, 2012 | David Malcolm

Posted on 02/07/2012 9:53:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Emperors in medieval Christendom often disregarded Papal edicts because the Pope lacked the armies to enforce them. Times have changed.

As has been widely reported, President Obama’s Health and Human Services department (HHS) will soon require Catholic organizations to provide contraception services within their healthcare plans, and pay a fine if they don’t. Worse yet, it will also require Catholic organizations who don’t offer these services to apprise citizens where they can obtain them. Catholics are outraged, for good reason.

The stark implications of this policy for the Catholic Church were noted by Atlanta archbishop Wilton D. Gregory who said, “As a result, unless the (HHS) rule is overturned, we Catholics will be compelled either to violate our consciences, or to drop health coverage for our employees (and suffer the penalties for doing so).” Such employees include, for instance, those working at Catholic hospitals, schools, and Catholic Charities, which is the largest private sector social services provider in the United States. Morally and economically, then, this policy is a tragedy.

The administration response has been feeble, and ineffectual. White House spokesman Jay Carney said: "While there are those who take issue with the decision…American women will have access to preventive services, as they should.” Characterizing the outrage in the religious community as simply “taking issue” reveals the administration’s contempt for the faithful. As Carney further noted, such contempt comes from the top, saying "The president concurs in the decision."

Writing in USA Today this week, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius sought to justify her agency’s overreach by arguing that “virtually all” women use contraception at some point, and that the new policy has no effect on conscious clause protections for medical providers. Millions of Catholic women would object to her hypothesizing, and given the administration’s disrespect for moral objectors, those protections won’t last long.

Yet this is only the latest battle between Mr. Obama and the Catholic Church. Wooed by Mr. Obama’s campaign overtures towards reducing abortions and addressing social ills, many Catholics – even the socially conservative – cast their vote with Obama in 2008, and he captured fifty-two percent of the Catholic vote. At Pepperdine law school, we saw this first hand. Former Reagan official and stalwart Republican Doug Kmiec endorsed Obama in a book entitled, “Can a Catholic Support Him?”

Since 2008, the marriage between Mr. Obama and Catholics has not been an easy one. Kmiec subsequently resigned his Obama-bequeathed ambassadorship to Malta in protest of the State Department’s stifling his religious initiatives, pro-life congressional Democrats were excluded from Obamacare negotiations, and President Obama has done nothing to honor the commitment in his controversial 2009 Notre Dame commencement speech to find common ground with the faithful who disagree with him. With the recent HHS announcement, Mr. Obama has finally and irrevocably revealed that his feints in 2008 towards the faithful were just that.

It is said you can judge a man by his enemies. Mr. Obama has picked the wrong enemies, and is about to experience their judgment. There are seventy-seven million Catholics in the United States, and as a direct result of this policy, many are poised to express their anger electorally. This does not bode well for the president.

As the Wall Street Journal has pointed out, Catholics comprise a quarter of the electorate, and in nine of the past ten presidential elections, Catholics have sided with the winner. In 2004, white Catholics sided with George W. Bush. In 2008, Mr. Obama carried the Catholic vote and won. Come January 2013, it is likely the White House occupant will again have won the Catholic vote. It is increasingly likely this will not be Mr. Obama.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: catholics; contraception; obama; obamacare
Obdurate.
1 posted on 02/07/2012 9:53:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama will still get over 50% of the Catholic vote.


2 posted on 02/07/2012 9:56:32 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think Pelosi won any friends this week, either.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 9:57:09 PM PST by econjack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How Obama Lost the Catholic Vote
‘I am going to stick with fellow Catholics’ in Pres. Obama’s war on Catholics. Wherein Fr. Z rants.
Unholy War
Six Things Everyone Should Know about the HHS Mandate
Santorum: Obama Hostile to Christians

Understanding Oppostion to the HHS Mandate (Part 1): Why the Church Won’t Pay for Contracept
The Bishops Chickens Coming Home to Roost.
65 Orthodox Church bishops call on Obama to ‘rescind’ the ‘unjust’ contraception mandate
Doug Kmiec Writes Obama: 'Friendship Will Not Permit Me to Disregard Duty to Faith and Country'
Standing with the Bishops [Catholic Caucus]
Updated: *167* Bishops (More Than 90% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
Outrage!… Military Tells Chaplains What They Can and Can’t Say About HHS/ObamaAssault on Religion
Updated: *153* Bishops (Over 80% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
An Affront Catholics Agree On [Liberal and Conservative Catholics Against Obama Mandate]
Army Silenced Chaplains Last Sunday

Catholic Military Archdiocese & Chaplains interfered with last Sunday by Pres. Obama’s Admin
The Anti-Catholic President v. the Catholic Bishops
Sen. Rubio introduces bill to reverse Obama birth control mandate
Churches balk at birth control rule - Catholics won’t comply, Bishop Kevin Rhoades says
Protestants and Jews declare to White House: We stand with Catholics
Checking the Air Outside [Bp. Zubik's follow up to Obama's “To Hell with You”]
Mohler [Southern Baptist] Says Insurance Mandate Not Just 'Catholic' Issue
An Open Letter to President Barack Obama Concerning Recent Tyranny (With Pictures!)
Lincoln bishop: prepare for 'suffering' under HHS mandate
Bishop David Zubik confronts Obama
Obama’s ‘war on the church’

Pope hits out at 'radical secularism'
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
Bruskewitz: Fight Insurance Ruling [Sebelius a "bitter, fallen away Catholic"]
Letter from Archbishop John G. Vlazny on the matter of freedom of conscience and decisions by HHS
Bishop Olmsted's Letter to Catholics [Catholic Caucus]
Liberty for the Amish & Quakers but not Catholics. . .
Contraception mandate prompts Peoria bishop to instate St. Michael Prayer (Catholic Caucus)
Phoenix bishop (Olmstead): defy feds on birth control
A letter from Archbishop Dennis M. Schnurr concerning HHS edict

Speak honestly: abortion is ‘the killing of tiny human beings in the womb’ – Denver bishop
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] Blasts Secularist Intolerance, Calls For ‘Assertive Action’ to Defend Church
(Pittsburgh Bishop Zubik comments:) HHS delays rule on contraceptive coverage
Dolan: Natural law, not religious preference, dictates all life sacred
Religious leaders blast HHS over contraception mandate
Mandated Contraception, Sterilization: Caesar Demands Church Violate Conscience
OBAMA’S CONTEMPT FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (mandates coverage of sterilization & contraception)
Implications of Obama Admin move to force Cath hospitals to provide contraception and sterilizations
Catholic doctors’ group launches petition against contraception mandate
Contraception mandate tramples religious freedom, US bishops say

4 posted on 02/07/2012 10:00:59 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: unkus

I don’t think so. Let’s pray that Newt or Santorum gets the nomination, though. Otherwise, what do Catholics do?


5 posted on 02/07/2012 10:02:01 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr. Obama has picked the wrong enemies, and is about to experience their judgment. There are seventy-seven million Catholics in the United States, and as a direct result of this policy, many are poised to express their anger electorally. This does not bode well for the president.

The only time Catholics stand together is at a High Mass.

6 posted on 02/07/2012 10:14:07 PM PST by Ballygrl
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To: Salvation

I grew up among liberal Catholics. Like I said, over 50% will vote for 0bama. Who knows what the others will do.
It’s all very disturbing.

A very conservative Catholic friend of mine thinks the Church is in for real persecution soon. He thinks it was obvious when 0bama had the cross behind the podium covered up at Notre Dame.


7 posted on 02/07/2012 10:18:47 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I expect Obama to back off and become a hero for listening to the people. Then, if re-elected, he’ll put it back in place.


8 posted on 02/07/2012 10:19:10 PM PST by Bob
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To: unkus

**A very conservative Catholic friend of mine thinks the Church is in for real persecution soon**

I agree with your friend.


9 posted on 02/07/2012 10:24:38 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Ballygrl
Evidently you have not been following all these articles:

How Obama Lost the Catholic Vote
‘I am going to stick with fellow Catholics’ in Pres. Obama’s war on Catholics. Wherein Fr. Z rants.
Unholy War
Six Things Everyone Should Know about the HHS Mandate
Santorum: Obama Hostile to Christians

Understanding Oppostion to the HHS Mandate (Part 1): Why the Church Won’t Pay for Contracept
The Bishops Chickens Coming Home to Roost.
65 Orthodox Church bishops call on Obama to ‘rescind’ the ‘unjust’ contraception mandate
Doug Kmiec Writes Obama: 'Friendship Will Not Permit Me to Disregard Duty to Faith and Country'
Standing with the Bishops [Catholic Caucus]
Updated: *167* Bishops (More Than 90% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
Outrage!… Military Tells Chaplains What They Can and Can’t Say About HHS/ObamaAssault on Religion
Updated: *153* Bishops (Over 80% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
An Affront Catholics Agree On [Liberal and Conservative Catholics Against Obama Mandate]
Army Silenced Chaplains Last Sunday

Catholic Military Archdiocese & Chaplains interfered with last Sunday by Pres. Obama’s Admin
The Anti-Catholic President v. the Catholic Bishops
Sen. Rubio introduces bill to reverse Obama birth control mandate
Churches balk at birth control rule - Catholics won’t comply, Bishop Kevin Rhoades says
Protestants and Jews declare to White House: We stand with Catholics
Checking the Air Outside [Bp. Zubik's follow up to Obama's “To Hell with You”]
Mohler [Southern Baptist] Says Insurance Mandate Not Just 'Catholic' Issue
An Open Letter to President Barack Obama Concerning Recent Tyranny (With Pictures!)
Lincoln bishop: prepare for 'suffering' under HHS mandate
Bishop David Zubik confronts Obama
Obama’s ‘war on the church’

Pope hits out at 'radical secularism'
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
Bruskewitz: Fight Insurance Ruling [Sebelius a "bitter, fallen away Catholic"]
Letter from Archbishop John G. Vlazny on the matter of freedom of conscience and decisions by HHS
Bishop Olmsted's Letter to Catholics [Catholic Caucus]
Liberty for the Amish & Quakers but not Catholics. . .
Contraception mandate prompts Peoria bishop to instate St. Michael Prayer (Catholic Caucus)
Phoenix bishop (Olmstead): defy feds on birth control
A letter from Archbishop Dennis M. Schnurr concerning HHS edict

Speak honestly: abortion is ‘the killing of tiny human beings in the womb’ – Denver bishop
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] Blasts Secularist Intolerance, Calls For ‘Assertive Action’ to Defend Church
(Pittsburgh Bishop Zubik comments:) HHS delays rule on contraceptive coverage
Dolan: Natural law, not religious preference, dictates all life sacred
Religious leaders blast HHS over contraception mandate
Mandated Contraception, Sterilization: Caesar Demands Church Violate Conscience
OBAMA’S CONTEMPT FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (mandates coverage of sterilization & contraception)
Implications of Obama Admin move to force Cath hospitals to provide contraception and sterilizations
Catholic doctors’ group launches petition against contraception mandate
Contraception mandate tramples religious freedom, US bishops say

10 posted on 02/07/2012 10:26:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: unkus
Sadly, I think you are right. I have little faith in my fellow Catholics.
After 2008 I talked with many and their stupidity in voting amazed me. To this day I am so amazed that they could be so easily taken.
Obama is a scam artist and he had/has so many things wrong about him, yet I am still amazed and do not thing they will get it.
11 posted on 02/07/2012 10:28:30 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff

It’s extremely sad.


12 posted on 02/07/2012 10:33:29 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Bob

I expect Obama to back off and become a hero for listening to the people. Then, if re-elected, he’ll put it back in place.


If re-elected, 0bama will be a demon on wheels. Literally.

Nothing to hold him back then.


13 posted on 02/07/2012 10:35:22 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Salvation

If re-elected, 0bama will lead the way. He will get even with a lot of people. His enemy’s list is extensive.


14 posted on 02/07/2012 10:37:02 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

>>0bama had the cross behind the podium covered up at Notre Dame.<<

Not to nitpick—but it was “IHS” at Georgetown. (before ND)


15 posted on 02/07/2012 10:46:35 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: reagandemocrat

Thanks for the reminder.


16 posted on 02/07/2012 10:50:28 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

17 posted on 02/07/2012 10:54:42 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
OBAMA CLUELESS, PRESIDENT CLUELESS
18 posted on 02/07/2012 11:04:24 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The stark implications of this policy for the Catholic Church were noted by Atlanta archbishop Wilton D. Gregory who said, “As a result, unless the (HHS) rule is overturned, we Catholics will be compelled either to violate our consciences, or to drop health coverage for our employees (and suffer the penalties for doing so).”

The other option would be for churches to suggest (from the pulpit) that their parishioners vote for politicians who promise to overturn ObamaCare.

19 posted on 02/07/2012 11:43:17 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: capydick
Suggest BULLSHI+, it is high time the bishops and, yes the Pope himself, grows some stones and outright explains that a vote for the party of death is a vote that could damn your immortal soul.

They are all charlatans and baby killers who have every intention of outright force against the forces of good and enlightenment.

20 posted on 02/08/2012 12:02:07 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: unkus

“If re-elected, Obama will be a demon on wheels. Literally
Nothing to hold him back then.”

Particularly if the Republicans in Congress are led by Boehner and McConnell.


21 posted on 02/08/2012 1:41:14 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: reagandemocrat
What bothered me was that the Catholic universities actually complied with the covering up of the cross and Notre Dame prosecuted the faithful who protested abortion.
22 posted on 02/08/2012 3:18:56 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: reagandemocrat
What bothered me was that the Catholic universities actually complied with the covering up of the cross and Notre Dame prosecuted the faithful who protested abortion.
23 posted on 02/08/2012 3:19:15 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: unkus

But unlike it in other countries, Americans are armed.


24 posted on 02/08/2012 3:21:17 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: JSteff

With the struggling economy, that could have changed, with buyers remorse.


25 posted on 02/08/2012 3:23:42 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Salvation

The sad reality is that, Obama has declared “war” on the Church.


26 posted on 02/08/2012 3:25:32 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“As has been widely reported, President Obama’s Health and Human Services department (HHS) will soon require Catholic organizations to provide contraception services within their healthcare plans, and pay a fine if they don’t. Worse yet, it will also require Catholic organizations who don’t offer these services to apprise citizens where they can obtain them.”

So does this also go for the Islamic/Muslim organizations/schools in this country that employ people? Or are just the Catholics being singled out?

27 posted on 02/08/2012 3:33:06 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
""How Obama Lost the Catholic Vote"

Better question: "How did a confessed Abortionist ("I don't want my daughters punished with a baby"---BHO ) get the Catholic vote in the first place?"

28 posted on 02/08/2012 3:34:19 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: unkus
Obama will still get over 50% of the Catholic vote.

I'll bet you $10,000 he won't ; )
29 posted on 02/08/2012 3:43:42 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Salvation

“I don’t think so. Let’s pray that Newt or Santorum gets the nomination, though. Otherwise, what do Catholics do?”

Agreed. As to the last, if Romney is the RNC nominee, we can’t vote for him.


30 posted on 02/08/2012 6:44:47 AM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

Obama will still get over 50% of the Catholic vote.

I’ll bet you $10,000 he won’t ; )


I stand with my feeling. I grew up around liberal Catholics and know them well.


31 posted on 02/08/2012 8:29:03 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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