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Deny Communion to Pelosi urge canon lawyer, popular priest-blogger
Life Site News ^ | February 8, 2012 | PATRICK B. CRAINE

Posted on 02/08/2012 1:23:31 PM PST by NYer

WASHINGTON, D.C., February 8, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – After pro-abortion House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi defied America’s bishops last week by proclaiming she would stand with her “fellow Catholics” in support of President Obama’s contraception mandate, one of the web’s most prominent priest-bloggers has issued an impassioned plea for her bishops to deny her Holy Communion in accord with canon law.

“For the good of souls, Nancy Pelosi must be denied Holy Communion and the Catholic people should be informed that she is being denied Holy Communion,” wrote Fr. John Zuhlsdorf (aka Fr. Z) on his blog Tuesday.

Fr. Zuhlsdorf is calling on Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco and Cardinal Donald Wuerl to invoke canon 915, which states that those who have been “obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.”

Niederauer has said in the past that he was considering denying Pelosi Communion, but Wuerl has said such an act would turn the Eucharist into a “weapon.”

The priest got support Tuesday from leading canon lawyer Dr. Edward Peters, who holds the Edmund Cardinal Szoka Chair at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit and serves as a consultant to the Vatican’s highest court.

On his In the Light of the Law blog, Dr. Peters writes that Pelosi is perhaps the best case for applying canon 915 in the United States.

“If her prolonged public conduct does not qualify as obstinate perseverance in manifest grave sin, then, in all sincerity, I must admit to not knowing what would constitute obstinate perseverance in manifest grave sin,” he writes.

Last Wednesday, a CNSnews.com reporter asked Pelosi if she would stand with her fellow Catholics in resisting the contraception mandate, which would force Catholic institutions to offer coverage of contraception to employees.

In reply, Pelosi, a self-professed devout Catholic, said, “First of all, I am going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the Administration on this. I think it was a very courageous decision that they made, and I support it.”

Catholics have been calling for Pelosi’s bishops to invoke canon 915 for many years, but her remarks last week were particularly poignant as at least 169 Catholic bishops across the country, representing over 90% of the country’s dioceses, have blasted the mandate, in many cases ensuring that letters were read to the faithful during Sunday Mass calling the mandate unconstitutional and unjust.

“Nancy Pelosi considers it consistent with what Catholics do to take a stand against the bishops in favor of a policy that would force Catholic institutions to violate the teachings of her Church,” wrote Fr. Zuhlsdorf, noting that she is one of the most visible public figures in America.

“Your Excellency?  Your Eminence?  How much longer does this have to go on?  What else does she have to do?” he asked.

To concerns that such a strong action would launch a media firestorm, Fr. Zuhlsdorf replied, “Damn straight! Let there be national repercussions and a media firestorm.”

“Nancy Pelosi has publicly chosen sides against the Catholic Church’s teachings and against the bishops,” he said. “Let her choice be publicly confirmed by those same bishops.”

According to Dr. Peters, Pelosi’s comments suggest that her views “like Pharaoh’s heart, have only hardened with time.”

“Canon 915 … is not about impositions on individual conscience, it’s about public consequences for public behavior,” he said. “It’s about taking people at their word and acknowledging the character of their actions. It’s about not pretending that people don’t really mean what they repeatedly say and what they repeatedly do.”

“My view is that Nancy Pelosi deserves to be deprived of holy Communion to bring home to her and to the wider faith community the gravity of her conduct and the need to avoid such conduct altogether or, that failing, at least to repent of it. Quickly,” he said.

“Nancy Pelosi obviously means exactly what she says, and she regularly backs up her words with deeds. She deserves to be taken seriously. Very seriously,” he added.

LifeSiteNews.com did not hear back from the Archdioceses of San Francisco or Washington by press time.

To contact Archbishop Niederauer:
info@sfarchdiocese.org

To contact Cardinal Wuerl:
chancery@adw.org


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: canon915; catholic; communion; contraceptionmandate; democrats; moralabsolutes; obama; obamacare; pelosi; prolife

1 posted on 02/08/2012 1:23:38 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Since Pelosi spends most of her time in Washington, contact Cardinar Wuerl, first. Ironically, he just appeared as a guest on Fox News, to explain the problems with the mandate. Give him an earful!


2 posted on 02/08/2012 1:25:34 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Nutsy commits the sin of sacrelige each time she stands (as in the Novus Ordo), or kneels to receive the Host.


3 posted on 02/08/2012 1:27:48 PM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: NYer

That woman, and those of her ilk, should have been excommunicated long ago.


4 posted on 02/08/2012 1:27:48 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: NYer

Does she even go to church??? (Except, maybe, when elections roll around.)


5 posted on 02/08/2012 1:29:49 PM PST by PA BOOKENDS
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To: NYer

It’s all a big yawn unless and until the Catholic hierarchy finds the courage to publically and vocally excommunicate them all.

But we know that won’t happen. The ‘long march’ of the Gramscian, Machiavellian LEft has largely corrupted not only the Catholic sphere and outlook, but also those of every other mainstream religion.


6 posted on 02/08/2012 1:34:04 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: NYer

Bell, Book, and Candle!


7 posted on 02/08/2012 1:37:31 PM PST by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: Noumenon

Obama’s goning to find a “compromise” that the church heirachy will swallow...another deal with evil. Then this will all be forgotten by the media and the people on election day.

Wait til the second term. Obama and his fellow communists will take no prisoners. They are gonna come after the Christian churches with the Justice Dept and the Courts. And perhaps most importantly, with the IRS.

Wait and see...it’s gonna happen because Romney will lose.


8 posted on 02/08/2012 1:41:55 PM PST by kjo
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To: NYer
Communion won't matter to her, deny her Botox and you'll get a response.
9 posted on 02/08/2012 1:44:27 PM PST by Old North State (Don't blame me, I voted for Pedro)
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To: NYer

Nancy Pelosi’s Favorite Word (blah!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSko2ixEB8U


10 posted on 02/08/2012 1:52:17 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: kjo

“Wait and see...it’s gonna happen because Romney will lose.”

If we get our $h** together, ROMNEY WON’T BE THE NOMINEE!!!

Hey, I know - I get discouraged often, lately. But it’s still early and we don’t have to let the Left and the GOP establishment win this thing.


11 posted on 02/08/2012 1:53:29 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: kjo

And look for America to have its second revolution.


12 posted on 02/08/2012 1:54:06 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: llandres

It may happened, since we had that sweep of Santorum.


13 posted on 02/08/2012 1:55:31 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

American Catholics are to invested in the Democrat Party to offend the party by doing this.


14 posted on 02/08/2012 2:01:36 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: mgstarr
That woman, and those of her ilk, should have been excommunicated long ago.

Catholics, especially those in public office, who are complicit, be it directly or indirectly, in abortion, automatically incur excommunication latae sententiae ref. Essentially, she should not present herself for communion. Her bishop, however, is supposed to privately address this issue with her. T/his may have already been done; we are not privy to that information. Pray for her immortal soul!

15 posted on 02/08/2012 2:02:04 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

American Catholics are to invested in the Democrat Party to offend the party by doing this.


16 posted on 02/08/2012 2:07:58 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: NYer
Failure to excommunicate Pelosi and others of her ilk makes a mockery out of those Catholics who remain faithful to the Church, in particular to the >500,000 brave young people who Marched for Life in DC last month.

Shame on you Cardinal Wuerl for spitting in their faces.

17 posted on 02/08/2012 2:13:51 PM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
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To: eCSMaster

see my post #15.


18 posted on 02/08/2012 2:32:58 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

**canon 915, which states that those who have been “obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.”**

BTTT!


19 posted on 02/08/2012 2:54:44 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

American Catholics need to ask the Holy Office to conduct an “instructional survey” of North America, in that it is so filled with heterodoxy and heresies, to determine where error exists, providing a confidential report to each bishop.

Logically, such a survey would best be carried out by an order like the Dominicans, covering every element of the church including schools and hospitals.

There was an attempt to do a small survey of uncloistered nuns, which was met with great contempt and disobedience, which should be a warning flag that something is gravely amiss. Likewise, the openly anti-Catholic actions of schools and hospitals has become scandalous.


20 posted on 02/08/2012 3:05:10 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: NYer

A few may pray for the enemy but I will never soil my prayer time with her image while speaking with Him. I’ll let God sort this person’s soul out, and when this lukewarm religion either bends or gets back to their core-beliefs, it will be of little consequence, Komen caved, and the rest of these so-called faiths shall bow as well. P.C.Secualarism (religion) is the new tool the socialist have tweeked, and the only one’s noticing are the 47% who want to enslave the rich for their own, no-federal-tax paying failures. A guy, in print, for a major American newspaper acually asserts that: ‘we have no idea what accually causes poverty’, then goes on to blame society, while ignoring the nagging truth that allot of people are extreemly lazy and are happy living off you and me, with not even a hint of gratitude-—it’s somehow due-them now; and we are their piggy-bank.


21 posted on 02/08/2012 3:05:35 PM PST by Joshua Marcus
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To: NYer
On the whole, I'm disappointed with the pastoral letter that was read in the Archdiocese of Washington authored by Cardinal Wuerl. I thought it was much too weak given the actions and attitude of the Obama Regime.

Wuerl seems to me to be taking on the role of diplomat with respect to this matter rather than that of leader. He's supposed to be "a fool for Christ," and IMHO, he is not.

If I were an Archbishop in the U.S., I would summarily deny Communion to any politician who supported abortion, and I would make it public.



Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

22 posted on 02/08/2012 3:14:51 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Wuerl seems to me to be taking on the role of diplomat with respect to this matter rather than that of leader.

Wuerl has a limp spine. He speaks the line but does not walk it.

23 posted on 02/08/2012 4:12:08 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Little Bill

Good movie


24 posted on 02/08/2012 4:15:50 PM PST by goat granny
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To: NYer

If a majority of the Catholic’s in her Diocese withheld their weekly checks until they decide to withold Communion from her, I think you would see some action from the Bishop and whatever church she attends.


25 posted on 02/08/2012 4:45:58 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: NYer

u
How long before the clergy get the intestinal fortitude that Jesus had when he jumped the money changers? The clergy should deny Nancy Pelosi and any other politician who backs abortion the right to recieve Holy Communion. Until they do, they are complicit in the act. Let us show who we are.


26 posted on 02/08/2012 5:10:46 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: capydick
From San Fran Gran Nan's home parish in San Francisco in January of 2007.

Open Letter to Nancy Pelosi

27 posted on 02/08/2012 7:56:22 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Nice - hadnt seen that before. The next step is to refuse Communion to her, along with the other RAT’s who support this policy. I doubt it would happen though.


28 posted on 02/08/2012 8:19:14 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: NYer; Graewoulf; VinceASA; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; pieces of time; Warthog-2; Tzar; ...
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29 posted on 02/08/2012 8:21:37 PM PST by narses
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To: NYer

Fr. z is spot on. a petition?


30 posted on 02/08/2012 8:27:30 PM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: narses
Arch-Bishop Dolan was on CBS This Morning today discussing the HHS Abortifacient mandate. Best quote from Dolan in response to the host asking about the poll showing that some Catholic women take contraception: "We're not into polls. We're into moral principle"


31 posted on 02/09/2012 5:31:38 AM PST by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: eCSMaster

Sadly, not going to happen.


32 posted on 02/10/2012 8:27:01 AM PST by onedoug
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