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Masculine God, Feminine Spirit? (Should we think of God as male or female)
Patheos ^ | 02/09/2012 | By Kyle Roberts

Posted on 02/09/2012 10:27:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

John Piper, at a recent pastors conference, declared, "God has given Christianity a masculine feel." This is based, for Piper, on several things: God is revealed in the Bible in male images (king and father). The second person of the Trinity is named as "Son" and is incarnated as a man. The 12 apostles were men, and men are declared to be the heads of the church and home.

But has God really "given Christianity a masculine feel"? Or has Christianity given God a masculine feel?

Granted, there are plenty of male-oriented images, allusions, and references in Scripture that are male-oriented. (And it doesn't surprise anyone to learn that the Bible's authors are mostly if not exclusively men writing in mainly patriarchal contexts). "Father" and "Son" are unmistakably male references. The term "masculine," however, is an ambiguous, socially constructed, and culturally dependent concept. As Scot McKnight points out, the Greek word for "masculine" (andreia) never properly appears in the New Testament.

But I want to focus on another issue. Piper rests his argument on the idea that God is revealed in male terms and images. God (Yahweh) is the eternal "Father" and the eternal "Son of God" becomes incarnate as a human male in Jesus of Nazareth. What do we make of this language? Is "Father" and "Son" supposed to be interpreted literally, or do these terms denote the familiarity and intimacy of the relationship itself? Here we are flung headlong into a debate regarding the nature of religious language. Piper's literalistic hermeneutic involves a univocal view of language, whereby "Father" becomes exclusive of anything "feminine" and is used to prioritize the male over the female. It's a handy move if you want to retain patriarchy.

But is God actually gendered as male and therefore exclusively or primarily masculine (whatever that might actually mean)? Any literal ascription of gender to the eternal divine being (think "ontological Trinity") has generally been ruled quite out of bounds in Christian orthodoxy. Notions like divine simplicity, unboundedness, and incorporeality, long have prevented theologians from taking gender references to God literally.

In the incarnation, the Second Person of the Trinity quite literally becomes in-fleshed in the Jewish, male body of Jesus of Nazareth. Christians rightly take joy and comfort in the particularity of the incarnation for, in Jesus, God was and is healing and reconciling the world. What is not assumed is not healed; therefore God becomes a particular human being in order to redeem humanity. The Jewish flesh of Jesus makes sense given that Jesus was to be the Messiah and his mission was to announce and embody the kingdom for Israel and on behalf of the world. But nothing suggests that the incarnation required male flesh for our salvation. Perhaps, as some have suggested, the Logos became a man because, to become incarnate as a woman, and to sacrifice oneself for the world as a woman, would have been rather unsurprising and unremarkable to first-century observers. That's just what women do. But when this Jewish Rabbi willingly set aside his "rights" and his power for the salvation of humanity, he made quite an impression (Phil 2:1-11).

Furthermore, according to orthodox theology, we must be careful when conceptually transferring from the human particularity of Jesus to his divine nature. The Council of Chalcedon asserts the two natures of Jesus are related "without confusion, without change, without division, without separation; the distinction of natures being in no way annulled by the union, but rather the characteristics of each nature being preserved and coming together to form one person and subsistence." The human nature of Jesus, having the particularity of male humanity, does not imply that the divine nature of Jesus became distinctively male -- or most certainly—"masculine." The incarnation, by the logic of the creed, does not imply that "God is male." Furthermore, we should keep in mind that Jesus' male body was resurrected and ascended to God. Do we have any idea what bodily resurrection and ascension imply for gender particularity?

Also, has Piper forgotten the Holy Spirit? Irenaeus suggested memorably that the Son and the Spirit are the two hands of God in the world. If the Son causes us to think of God in terms of maleness and "masculinity" (which, again, is a constructed notion), then the Spirit might draw our attention to more "feminine" aspects of God. The Spirit (ruach in the Old Testament and pneuma in the New) suggests creative and re-creative (nurturing, sustaining, and life-giving) activities. "Ruach," in fact, is grammatically feminine. In Genesis 1, the Spirit hovers over the waters and gives life to human and animals. The Spirit re-creates the earth (Isaiah 44:3), the Spirit comforts (Jn. 14), teaches (Lk. 12:12) and heals. Images of the Spirit in the Bible include breath, wind, and wisdom (the latter is often personified in Scripture as female).

The prevalence of what could be seen as female allusions in Scripture's depiction of the Spirit led some early Christians to refer to the Holy Spirit in explicitly female language. Consider this one: "By baptism we receive the Spirit of Christ, and at that moment when the priests invoke the Spirit, she opens the heavens and descends and hovers over the waters, and those who are baptized put her on" (Aphrahat's Demonstration 6:14). Several medieval theologians were rather creative with gender distinctions in the Godhead, certainly allowing for a female dimension in God. But while some early Christians were happy to speak of the Spirit as "she," the Spirit is conveniently neglected in these discussions of "God and masculinity." As Elizabeth Johnson pointed out in She Who Is, the marginalization of the Spirit in the church corresponds to the marginalization of women in the church.

So, if one wants to speak in terms of "masculine" and "feminine" traits in Scripture and in God, one should do so hesitantly. Our talk about God must always take into account the mystery of God and the anthropomorphic nature of theological language—yes, even Scripture's inspired language. To the degree that the terms "masculine" and "feminine" are helpful distinctions, the two hands of God in Jesus and the Spirit ought to inspire gender inclusivity and equality. We should not make a habit of saying that God is, in any literal sense, either male or female.

In any case, if one wants to insist that Jesus was "masculine," remember that Jesus redefines what it means to be a human, and therefore what it means to be male and female. We dare not define Jesus' "masculinity" in the image of our culture's ideals. Furthermore, if Jesus is "masculine," then let's agree that the Spirit is "feminine." We, male and female together, are created in the image of the Triune God; God is not created in our image.

God has not given us Christianity with a masculine feel. Rather, Christianity has created a God with a masculine feel, to the extent we have forgotten that (1) God is not literally gendered (except in the incarnation) and (2) The Spirit and the Son—the two hands of God—suggest an inclusiveness that affirms the diversity in human creation and values equally, not just both sexes, but all configurations and combinations, in individual persons, of what society has traditionally called "feminine" and "masculine."

-- Kyle Roberts is Assistant Professor of Systematic Theology and Lead Faculty of Christian Thought, Bethel Seminary (St. Paul, MN). He researches and writes on issues related to the intersection of theology, philosophy, and culture


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
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To: The_Reader_David

-—those who conceive of the deity as female, are invariably drawn to thinking of creation as birth-giving, thereby effacing the radical distinction between the Uncreated and the created.-—

Yup.

I am curious about your statement regarding God transcending Being and non-being. Can you clarify?

Catholics, in the Scholastic tradition, see God’s Essence as Existence Itself, or Being. Non-being doesn’t exist, except as a logical concept. In that sense, it can be said to exist, and that which exists, even as an idea, must exist in the Mind of God.


21 posted on 02/09/2012 11:24:39 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: The_Reader_David

“...the radical distinction between the Uncreated and the created.”

David - what is the distinction?


22 posted on 02/09/2012 11:26:54 AM PST by SuzyQue (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t the Bible say that G-d is spirit (not a spirit)?


23 posted on 02/09/2012 11:39:49 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Regret Anything Because At One Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: Theo
We’re talking about masculine, not male; gender, not sex.

THANK you!

24 posted on 02/09/2012 11:40:14 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I forget which of the Cappadocian Fathers said “I believe in God, God does not exist.” The point is that when we think of Being (existing) or its negation “non-Being” (not existing) what we think of does not apply to God. The distinction is a merely created one, and not applicable to God. (In the East, we regard “seeing” God’s Essence as anything as mistaken and likely a step on the road to delusion.)


25 posted on 02/09/2012 11:41:54 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SuzyQue

I think it better to keep silence before that mystery. No explanation of the distinction between the Uncreated and the created will explain it.


26 posted on 02/09/2012 11:46:41 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: mountainlion
Why lessen God by considering male or female?

Because it's an important issue. Jesus did not say, "I and the Great Questionably-asexual Divine Being are One." He said, "I and the Father are One." Frankly, I'll take Jesus' word for it over anyone else's.
27 posted on 02/09/2012 11:53:03 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I always say, a world with boogers and flatulence could never have been created by a woman.


28 posted on 02/09/2012 12:00:27 PM PST by lazypadawan
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To: Westbrook
Westbrook saith:

Systematic Theology is one of the most consistent threats to Living Faith. Faith is not an intellectual exercise, nor an academic pursuit.

No actually the most consistent threat to (Christian) living faith is 1. speaking in public on topics of which one knows nothing about, and 2. Stating opinion as fact.

Before you tell other people what they should do, you might consider finding out what systematic theologuy is all about and learn to spot a liberal by their theology. You might be interested in knowing that a lot of greats in the faith are/were systematic theologians. It is a lack of systematic theology that allows the cults to thrive, the "sign gifters" to do what ever feels right at the moment and in some respects gives Rome her ability to contradict herself theologically and keep her members in line.

I would submit to you that the only consistent threat to the faith is a lack of Biblical literacy.

29 posted on 02/09/2012 12:02:28 PM PST by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Good gravy!


31 posted on 02/09/2012 12:09:33 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: spankalib

I don’t think Jesus referred to himself AS a mother hen, i.e
that he WAS a mother hen, but that the act of protection
and love and nurturing AS SEEN with a Mother Hen is the
way He would love you. Human men also protect their children,
but not necessarily as tender as human woman do.

Using the term “masculine” when referring to God is problematic,
He is much greater than man (immeasurably), but it is a
reasonable way(though certainly incomplete) to describe some of his
attributes. Fortunately He doesn’t alway behave like men, (i.e. He forgives, and
even blesses people who, while on this earth, hate Him(at least
until the final judgement).


32 posted on 02/09/2012 12:17:22 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: The_Reader_David

OK, David, but it’s not exactly kosher to use a concept to make an argument and then demur when asked to define the concept.

I remain uninformed, and now slightly piqued.


33 posted on 02/09/2012 12:20:01 PM PST by SuzyQue (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“In any case, if one wants to insist that Jesus was “masculine,” remember that Jesus redefines what it means to be a human, and therefore what it means to be male and female. We dare not define Jesus’ “masculinity” in the image of our culture's ideals. Furthermore, if Jesus is “masculine,” then let's agree that the Spirit is “feminine.” We, male and female together, are created in the image of the Triune God; God is not created in our image”.

Well yes, I would insist was masculine. You know beard, son, man, all that. But how “redefine what it means to be human”? People confused humans with cabbages? or chipmunks?

Spirit is feminine? If not masculine why feminine?
Male and female in the image of triune God? We have three heads?

Professors of Theology must feel the need to crank out babble to justify their pay. Better they mopped the floors or bussed tables in the cafeteria.

34 posted on 02/09/2012 12:34:14 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: bcsco

Yet we will continue to fight each other over our beliefs in God...


35 posted on 02/09/2012 12:54:03 PM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: SeekAndFind
Speculation in the absence of revelation is dangerous. The "Divine Feminine" appeals greatly to the heterodox, but it takes a mighty excursion of wishful eisegesis to find it in scripture.

In other words, this newchurchgirlyboi clown isn't worthy to tie John Piper's shoes, let alone lecture him about the the Christian "invention" of a masculine God. Yuk.

36 posted on 02/09/2012 1:11:37 PM PST by jboot
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To: Tax-chick
The fact that human beings were created in the image and likeness of God, male and female He created them, tells us that both maleness and femaleness are necessary for humans fully to exemplify the image of God. However, God is not bound by our limited conceptions of “male,” “female,” or even “person.” I would agree. And I would disagree with the writer, because I think I am in disagreement with what I believe are his motives - to encourage people to think of G-d as feminine (as well as masculine. But, given the true mystery of G-d that we can not even dare to imagine, wouldn't it be better to think of G-d without gender, and thereby not impose our, human, gender values on G-d? Why not think of G-d as G-d, who is, we are also told, above "gender".
37 posted on 02/09/2012 1:24:28 PM PST by Wuli (ui)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

It’s not every day you see a guy “make it personal” AND ping the mod to the post in which he does it.


38 posted on 02/09/2012 1:29:11 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any one who has to even wonder about it, much less deny it does not believe in God any way so why even bother with it.


39 posted on 02/09/2012 1:32:37 PM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: SuzyQue

I’m sorry, but the Eastern in Eastern Orthodox Christianity is a bit stronger than just simple geography. I sometimes like to tell people I’m a adherent of an Eastern religion, and when they ask which one, replying “Christianity”. (Look up the word “apophatic”. It won’t explain the radical distinction between the Uncreated and the created, but you’ll understand why I’m wrote as I did, and won’t attempt explanation.)


40 posted on 02/09/2012 1:57:40 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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