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The Pope will die within a year: Vatican 'assassination fears' revealed
Telegraph ^
| February 10, 2012
| Nick Squires
Posted on 02/10/2012 8:08:21 AM PST by NYer
The sensational prediction was allegedly made by Cardinal Paolo Romeo, the archbishop of Palermo in Sicily, on a recent visit to China.
Cardinal Romeo reportedly made the startling prediction of the Pope's death during a trip to China in November 2011.
He seemed so sure of the fact that the people he spoke with, including Italian businessmen and Chinese representatives of the Catholic Church, were convinced that he was talking about an assassination attempt.
They were so alarmed by his remarks that they reported them back to the Vatican.
The extraordinary comments were written up in a top-secret report, dated Dec 30, 2011, and delivered to the Pope by a senior cardinal, Dario Castrillon Hoyos, a Colombian, in January.
The Vatican has reportedly opened an investigation into the claims.
The report was written in German, apparently to limit the number of people within the Vatican who would understand it if it was inadvertently leaked.
It warns of a "Mordkomplott" – death plot – against Benedict.
The story was broken on Friday by an Italian daily, Il Fatto Quotidiano, with the headline "Plot against the Pope – he will die within 12 months".
The newspaper, which has a reputation for scoops, published a page from the confidential report.
"During his talks in China, Cardinal Romeo predicted the death of Benedict XVI within 12 months. His remarks were expressed with such certainty and resolution that the people he was speaking to thought, with a sense of alarm, that an attack on the Pope's life was being planned," the paper reported.
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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: assassination
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:08:32 AM PST
by
NYer
To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Experts said the release of the document could be part of a power struggle within the Vatican administration to try and force Bertone to leave. Internal struggle ping!
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:10:44 AM PST
by
NYer
("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
To: NYer
The story was broken on Friday by an Italian daily, Il Fatto Quotidiano, with the headline "Plot against the Pope he will die within 12 months". Within 12 months, eh?
Wow.......that's some prediction.
I mean the Pope is what........84, going on 85?
To: NYer
The last pope, just in time for 2012 ;-)
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:18:54 AM PST
by
vanilla swirl
(We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
To: NYer
I believe Nostradamus predicted the current Pope would be the last. Take it FWIW.
To: NYer
If this plot is true, I sincerely hope the Holy Father will go ahead and release the rest of the Third Secret of Fatima. I think it would do much to defuse it, and bring many Graces upon the Church.
To: NYer
Paolo Romeo = Peter the Roman of St. Malachy? I am getting chills...
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:25:19 AM PST
by
Samogon
(Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
So who did he make so mad?
He is an old man, so saying he will die in a year isn't a great stretch. Saying someone will kill him makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes.
BXVI was the first pope I can remember being actively prayed for in LCMS churches.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:25:27 AM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: Samogon
To: NYer
Geez. A Cardinal from Sicily is talking about possible assassination. Does this guy know something no one else does? I still have may doubts surrounding the death of Pope John Paul I in 1978. That whole thing stunk and more and more evidence has come out that it might have been an inside job.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:28:01 AM PST
by
Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
To: NYer
German, the Church’s secret cypher. Next time they’ll wise up and use Esperanto or Egyptian hieroglyphs.
Freegards, thanks for all the pings
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:35:21 AM PST
by
Ransomed
To: NYer
So Why Would Cardinal Romeo announce this in China?
Why didn’t he report it directly to the authorities.
I am amazed at the level of work and appearances that he performs along with the pressures of the job.
May he continue with God’s blessings to lead the Catholic Church for as long as God allows.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:38:15 AM PST
by
ADSUM
(Body of Christ is the Church, gathered around the crucified risen Lord and fed by Him in Communion.)
To: Ransomed
They should have written it in Latin. No one reads that any more.
To: marshmallow
It is customary for Popes to assume a new name.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:39:58 AM PST
by
Samogon
(Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
To: NYer
I have read a prediction that this Pope will have to go into exile. Could be related.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:41:22 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Lazlo in PA
Did you see the episode of “Decoded” that talked about the death of Pope John Paul I? They had a bunch of information that showed how assasination was possible. It doesn’t make a prediction at the end, but it gives different points of view as to whether it could have happened.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:41:22 AM PST
by
mrsadams
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:42:41 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Peter from Rutland
That would be St. Malachay who predicted this. There is supposed to be one more pope, Peter the Roman, but whether he immediately follows or comes in after much turmoil is up for question. Combine this with the Mayan calendar carver and nearly every country on the planet being in deep you know what, well...
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:43:43 AM PST
by
bgill
(Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
To: NYer
I'll tell you who'll do it... a group of Asian Amish people who'll be driving Ferraris and uses computers for their businesses...Casinos and Strip Clubs. /s
Maybe the peaceful MUSLIMS...will do it...
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:43:56 AM PST
by
ExCTCitizen
(If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
To: NYer
I despise this type of trash.
Viva il Papa.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:47:55 AM PST
by
onyx
(SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
To: Lazlo in PA
I still have may doubts surrounding the death of Pope John Paul I in 1978.I didn't believe he died of natural causes back in '78 and still don't. The more that comes out, the more suspicion falls on politics and the powers that be.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:50:47 AM PST
by
bgill
(Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
To: redgolum
So who did he make so mad?The devil.
Because he is restoring the Church.
To: redgolum
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:01:07 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: mrsadams
There is a reason they did that episode. There is some evidence floating around now to show the Pontiff didn’t just die in his sleep. I tend to agree with it.
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:07:50 AM PST
by
Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
To: NYer
Somewhere I’ve read that the Vatican has called this “nonsense.” I’ll have to try and find that later.
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:13:54 AM PST
by
SumProVita
(Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
To: Salvation
To: Lazlo in PA
Sonds like the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith needs to inquire into Cardinal Romeo
To: NYer
OH BOY are we going have ending like Godfather 3 LOL!
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:33:18 AM PST
by
SevenofNine
(We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
To: Lazlo in PA
If you ever seen Godfather 3 you know how thing works out it better with no witnesses RIGHT????
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:34:25 AM PST
by
SevenofNine
(We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
To: SevenofNine
No. Actually you are going to have an ending like Revelation, Chapters 17 and 18.
NOT "LOL!"
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:36:56 AM PST
by
smvoice
(Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
To: smvoice
Well it is Italy so I think more of Godfather 3
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:40:07 AM PST
by
SevenofNine
(We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
To: Peter from Rutland
No, Nostradamus did not predict the current pope would be the last. The prophecy this usually refers to is St. Malachy. The NEXT TO LAST pope on St. Malachy’s list would correspond to Pope Benedict, but there’s nothing to suppose that his list was meant to be exhaustive. THE LAST POPE on St. Malachy’s list is a spurious addition, over two hundred years’s later, and in no way indicates that there aren’t dozens or even hundreds of popes between “the Glory of the Olives,” which corresponds to Benedict and “Peter the Roman.”
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:51:21 AM PST
by
dangus
To: Samogon
Paolo is Paul. Put a sweater on; you’re acting like a 12-year-old.
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posted on
02/10/2012 9:52:14 AM PST
by
dangus
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Bertone is already on the way out, due to his age, 77. According to Catholic-hierarchy.org, the only older Cardinals who haven’t retired are the archbishop of Cologne /Koln, the vatican archivist, and a basilica archpriest. Now, when he leaves, however, the gossip rags can proclaim, “A-ha! We told you Benedict hated him!”
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posted on
02/10/2012 10:01:56 AM PST
by
dangus
To: dangus
Keep your snot to yourself. I am well aware that Paolo means Paul. Are you aware of a remote possibility that Cardinal Romeo may become the next Pope? And Popes usually assume new names, keeping the surnames? Don’t bother answering, such struggle may be beyond your mental capacity.
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posted on
02/10/2012 10:09:08 AM PST
by
Samogon
(Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
To: Peter from Rutland
St. Malachy, actually. Pretty spooky stuff.
Peter the Roman is the last (and next) Pope.
It’ll be interesting.
It’s funny, because in Ezekiel it talks about a war in Israel where God’s own angels shield Israel from harm, while the army from the North, spoiling to take a great plunder, dies on horseback in the mountains to the North.
After this brief war, the Israelis use the fuel from the weapons they recover to ‘warm’ them for 7 years.
Russian and Iran share a border. Do we currently have a President that would fail to retaliate were the US struck with nuclear missiles? I think you chances are even money, actually.
In end times prophecies, almost no mention of the west is made, except to say the coast lands are all destroyed.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, and it is God’s general mode, that he sets Israel up against impossible odds, and then to show Israel that “I am the Lord”, he defeats Israel’s enemies, who once again return to God.
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posted on
02/10/2012 10:15:44 AM PST
by
RinaseaofDs
(Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
To: Peter from Rutland
Nostradamus = occult
Avoid it.
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posted on
02/10/2012 10:30:55 AM PST
by
SumProVita
(Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
To: Peter from Rutland
Not only Nostradamus, but several Popes going back centuries including the recently departed Pope John Paul, said that the next Pope in line after our current Pope will be in league with the Anti-Christ...that may be why Nostradamus said our current one would be the last Pope...the last “real” Pope. The next one will be a false prophet, probably heading up or organizing a one world religion for the Anti-Christ. Time is short...”Let every person work out their own salvation in fear and trembling”...Can’t remember what verse, but it’s just one of many that come to mind about the last days. It’s something we should all give great thought to because when we die we are all by ourselves before God and must give an account for our lives. Whether we believe in him or not. Some people are going to have one hell of a rude awakening. I hope I’m not one of them.
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posted on
02/10/2012 10:37:58 AM PST
by
Rainwave
(Growing more curmudgeony by the hour)
To: Samogon
A few points:
1) Cardinal Romeo is eligible to be pope, but as a 73-year-old who’s still in a backwater, he’s hardly on anyone’s list of papabile, and shooting his mouth to Chicoms about the Pope being assassinated and diving into Italian gossip rags didn’t exactly earn his any positive attention.
2) Yes, Popes take new names. But then why does a name like “Paolo Romeo” get you all goose-pimply.
3) Fortune-telling is for basic-cable slack-jaws. tabloid papers and snake-charming hicks. There’s plenty of Catholic prophesying out there (St John Bosco, Fatima, etc.), but none of it having much to fortune-telling.
Grow up.
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posted on
02/10/2012 12:44:18 PM PST
by
dangus
To: dangus
Already grown, wish you likewise.
Comparing gossips and childish conspiracy theories to the Prophesy of St. Malachy is immature, to say the list - the prophecy was remarkably accurate to the date. As of “papability”, nobody really knows what are the chances of Romeo - remember 0bama in 2006-2007? Who would have thunk?!
The name Romeo could be significant, or could mean nothing, time will tell, but it certainly rang the bell in me.
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posted on
02/10/2012 12:54:58 PM PST
by
Samogon
(Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
To: dangus
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posted on
02/10/2012 1:15:05 PM PST
by
Samogon
(Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
To: Ransomed
Even better:
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
True, but who specifically I wonder? What, or who, is the next step and why?
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posted on
02/10/2012 5:55:13 PM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: Samogon
That would be as opposed to someone who WAS Roman? Peter the Roman meets Paul the not Roman?
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posted on
02/10/2012 7:40:49 PM PST
by
dangus
To: Lazlo in PA
You wrote:
“That whole thing stunk and more and more evidence has come out that it might have been an inside job.”
Actually there has never been any such evidence. He died or natural causes. Happens all the time.
To: vladimir998
Actually there has never been any such evidence.
He got a clean bill of health soon before his death and the fact that he was trying to clean up the Vatican banking system that had mob ties is suspicious. Let's not forget how the Vatican got their status as a county in a country. Mussolini. They were also involved with getting Nazis out to South America after the war. That is why reformers like John Paul and John Paul II made waves that upset the old school folks. There was one good thing that came from the death of John Paul. That was John Paul II taking over and was very important in defeating Communism with Lady Thacher and Ronald Reagan in the 80's. I feel he was one of the most important Pontiffs since Pope Pius X.
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posted on
02/10/2012 8:16:53 PM PST
by
Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
To: redgolum
BXVI was the first pope I can remember being actively prayed for in LCMS churches.you're kidding, right? wow...
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posted on
02/10/2012 11:52:01 PM PST
by
Cronos
(Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
To: Lazlo in PA
You wrote:
“He got a clean bill of health soon before his death”
No, he did not. He had a heart condition.
” and the fact that he was trying to clean up the Vatican banking system that had mob ties is suspicious.”
It was suspicious that he was doing something? No, it was not.
“Let’s not forget how the Vatican got their status as a county in a country. Mussolini.”
False. The Papal States were always a country in a series of countries. Mussolini merely ended a stand off and restored some of what always was for about 1200 years.
“They were also involved with getting Nazis out to South America after the war.”
False. A few clerics, monks, and nuns did that. The Vatican did not do that.
“That is why reformers like John Paul and John Paul II made waves that upset the old school folks.”
No, actually much of what you listed had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with either John Paul of John Paul II.
“There was one good thing that came from the death of John Paul. That was John Paul II taking over and was very important in defeating Communism with Lady Thacher and Ronald Reagan in the 80’s. I feel he was one of the most important Pontiffs since Pope Pius X.”
Okay, fine. But you need to learn about cause and effect. What you’re doing otherwise is linking together things that are unrelated as if they have something to do with one another.
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