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American Catholicismís Pact With the Devil
Ricochet ^ | February 10, 2012 | Paul A. Rahe

Posted on 02/13/2012 11:48:10 AM PST by Petrosius

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To: STARWISE

Wow. I am stunned at your honesty here. Just wow. I must read your post slowly and carefully, there is just so much information there. God Bless


41 posted on 02/13/2012 2:28:07 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice

It is the sickening truth.
With total faith and fidelity to God,
I have to admit it’s more than abundantly
clear the Church is failing the flock.
I pray for us all.


42 posted on 02/13/2012 3:11:27 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
With all respect; the Church is not failing the flock...it is the flock and some of its shepards who are failing. If those who call themselves Catholic would form their conscience around the true articles of the Faith, men like Obama would have never gained the White House.

The Church will never fail; it will indeed prevail against even the gates of Hell.

43 posted on 02/13/2012 3:15:29 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: Petrosius

I truly believe that Bernardin and his boys tried to destroy the Catholic Church, perhaps, unwittingly. But were they Freemasons, and did this all come from inside the church?

PS. Receive the Eucharist on your tongue, never in your hands — the hand thing was an idea of the Freemasons to steal hosts!


44 posted on 02/13/2012 3:29:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MestaMachine

The Bishops didn’t even want Obama elected. What are you talking about here.


45 posted on 02/13/2012 3:32:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CdMGuy

The Bernardin bishops are still numerous. Can’t expect more than lip-service in the fight against Obama care. What could the USCCB been thinking when it agree to deal with the likes of Kathleen Gilligan? Chaput was once a Democrat but has seen the light., so he will use stronger language than Dolan.


46 posted on 02/13/2012 11:10:05 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: STARWISE
In 1973, when the Supreme Court made its decision in Roe v. Wade, had the bishops, priests, and nuns screamed bloody murder and declared war, as they have recently done, the decision would have been reversed.

I think you do not remember what the situation was in 1973. The bishops did speak out--and were ignored. The Nixon administration dis nothing to amerliorate the situation; on the contrary, he took measures to expedite matters, ala Romney in Mass. though he did speak out publicly against it. Ford was very pro-choice, and the Catholic pols of both parties immediately rolled over.

47 posted on 02/13/2012 11:19:07 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: DManA
If anyone should apologize it should be those to get upset when liars who call themselves Christian are called "Christian".
Any church knowingly ordaining queers as pastors is no longer a Christian Church but instead, a "Christian" church. That is, one that calls itself Christian and very much is not Christian.

And what are "scare" quotes? Another one of those politically correct whines they teach children these days? No one who goes to a church that is knowingly ordaining queers and marrying queers one to another is always right and in addition, such folks are seldom even Christian. At best, they're deluded and more often than not they're just run of the mill hypocrites.

Here's a "scare" quote for you, anyone who agrees that queers should be ordained by a church calling itself Christian doesn't know what the word Christian means.

48 posted on 02/14/2012 12:29:34 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: LisaFab

I understand what you’re saying. I’m just
describing my utter stunned heartbreak and
outrage from personal experiences I’ve had
with several priests over the last 5 years.
They are, after all, our closest connections
on earth to the Church. They’re supposed to
be our faith leaders .. and I know they’re flawed
humans as we all are.

And though there are many, and I know some who
are clearly devout, resolved, with total fidelity
to the faith that’s very tangibly demonstrated
in their words and actions, those pastors who
obviously show weakness and lack courage have
discouraged me tremendously.

For example, 2 weeks ago, a wonderful, very
actively pro life young priest and I were
talking after Mass just after this dictate
appeared. We were both so upset. He told me:
make sure you come to my Mass next Sunday ..
I’ll be hitting this hard.

So, I was relieved and made plans to attend
his specific Mass, awaiting with prayer his
strong message to the congregation. I even
went up to him before Mass to tell him I was
praying for him .. to inspire the parishioners
with courage, that this is war.

And do you know ... he must’ve shriveled a bit
inside, as he didn’t even give the homily, and
he sure knew it at the time. The deacon gave a
totally inane, wandering sermon about a generic
topic.

After I saw the pastor at the end of the Mass
and asked what I described and was treated to a
brick wall, it was clear that this devoted young
priest had been silenced. Poor guy. How must
he look at the Church hierachy when he lives
with such devotion and fidelity to the Church’s
principles and theology, yet he’s muted by his
superior? What a letdown for him. I’m very
very let down and depressed by all of this.

God have mercy on us .. bless and protect us all.


49 posted on 02/14/2012 12:44:55 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: LisaFab
If charity toward immigrants constitutes socialism, then surely Ronald Reagan was the biggest socialist of all?

RR talked a good game but his record is spotty at best. His amnesty was supposed to be a quick fix but instead turned into a virtual invasion by a foreign army. Government is not/should not and can not be in the business of charity. The result is that illegals were granted special rights by way of exemption from the law.

The CCC Paragraph # 2241: Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens

50 posted on 02/14/2012 7:14:00 PM PST by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.))
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To: LisaFab
If charity toward immigrants constitutes socialism, then surely Ronald Reagan was the biggest socialist of all?

RR talked a good game but his record is spotty at best. His amnesty was supposed to be a quick fix but instead turned into a virtual invasion by a foreign army. Government is not/should not and can not be in the business of charity. The result is that illegals were granted special rights by way of exemption from the law.

The CCC Paragraph # 2241: Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens

51 posted on 02/14/2012 7:14:15 PM PST by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: LisaFab

Rush has very little room to wag a moralist finger at the Church.


52 posted on 02/14/2012 7:41:40 PM PST by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: DManA

Wherever the Church has been marginalized, there have been faor greater disasters, they called them socialist paradises, we called them gulags.


53 posted on 02/14/2012 7:47:08 PM PST by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: DManA

Wherever the Church has been marginalized, there have been far greater disasters, they called them socialist paradises, we called them gulags.


54 posted on 02/14/2012 7:47:34 PM PST by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: DManA
Are you saying that even the Didache, written by the apostles, is a disaster? It states emphatically "NO" on the abortion issue.....now that's a long time of history for the Catholic Church!!!

Excerpt from: The Didache (The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
What the early Church had to say about abortion
Church History: The Didache [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Catholic Word of the Week: DIDACHE (Teaching of the twelve Apostles), 05-18-10
Early Christians and Abortion
The Time Capsule
The Didache or The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles
The Didache - The Lord's Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles to the Nations

55 posted on 02/15/2012 9:31:09 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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