Skip to comments.Why does the LDS church try to claim that they are the only ones who can be called "Mormons”?
Posted on 02/13/2012 1:48:04 PM PST by Colofornian
The two groups with more than a few members are the FLDS (see Are members of the FLDS church mormons?) and the Community of Christ (formerly known as the Reformed Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.) The Salt Lake based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has 14M members, and the second largest of such groups has at most 40,000 members.
Historically...the other groups are all splinters from from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...
It is also reasonably argued that mormon should be allowed as a genericized noun. There are many famous cases of proper names becoming genericized over the years, i.e. few of us mean Band Aid brand of bandages when we say Band Aid. Likewise, it is often argued that anyone who believes in the veracity of the Book of Mormon, or at some point splintered off a religion that believes in the Book of Mormon, should be able to self-identify as Mormons.
...the second largest group in this discussion, the FLDS church, may be as high as 40,000. However, to scale, there are about as many LDS members in the US as Jews in the US, and about as many FLDS as Orthodox Jews. If were arguing solely on numbers or ratios, would it therefore be appropriate to say Orthodox Jews arent real?...I think the main differences are that the LDS church is centralized, and the FLDS teachings are distinct. Orthodox Judaism is generally seen as really strict Judaism, not as apostate Judaism. Polygamist Mormons and those who marry child brides, those who dont believe Joseph Smith saw God, those who dont believe in the Book of Mormon anymore, etc. are seen as having left the most central doctrines to what any reader of this post would consider Mormonism.
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Wait a minute. Who splintered from Mormon-'scripturally' orthodox Mormonism -- as can still be found as current LDS "doctrine" found in Mormon "scripture" -- Doctrine & Covenants 132? The mainstream Mormons departed from D&C 132...not the other way around!
From the article: ...it is often argued that anyone who believes in the veracity of the Book of Mormon, or at some point splintered off a religion that believes in the Book of Mormon, should be able to self-identify as Mormons.
Well, hey, Mormons keep claiming that anyone adhering to a few things in the Bible are to be labeled "Christian" -- so what other conclusion can be offered here?...oh, yeah, the hypocritical conclusion as offered up by Mormon "prophet" Gordon B. Hinkley:
Hinckley quote #1: There is no such thing as a Mormon Fundamentalist. It is a contradiction to use the two words together. Source: Ensign, Nov. 1998
Hinckley quote #2: Sept. 8, 1998 airing of Larry King Live show:
KING: But when the word [polygamy] is mentioned, when you hear the word, you think Mormon, right?
HINCKLEY: You do it mistakenly. They have no connection to us whatsoever. They don't belong to the church. There are actually no Mormon fundamentalists.
So...what do Mormons do? Take their second-to-the-last "prophet" at his word? Consider him a liar & a false "prophet" on this matter? Claim to rule the roost on who can be a Mormon and who can't...while also being able to control who can be a Christian and who can't?
From the article: ...the second largest group in this discussion, the FLDS church, may be as high as 40,000. However, to scale, there are about as many LDS members in the US as Jews in the US, and about as many FLDS as Orthodox Jews. If were arguing solely on numbers or ratios, would it therefore be appropriate to say Orthodox Jews arent real?
Re the above bold-faced question...good question!!!
Well, huh. And here I thought they were Egyptian. I mean, wasn’t the BOM written in Egyptian and Chaldiac and those other characters?
the flds really are the true mormons, they have stuck with the original Joseph Smith teachings, it is the SLC lds that are the off shoot.
The flds should demand that the SLC lds stop calling themselves mormons.
Wait a minute...isn't the above a representation of the entire Lds, Inc. media/commercial/PR "I'm a Mormon" campaign...to highlight the sheer "diversity" of Mormons?
So what if there's a child-bride Mormon?...they can say, "I'm a Mormon" (too).
So what if there's a "I-don't-believe-Joseph-Smith-saw-God" Mormon? (After all, "God" isn't id'd as "God" in that first vision account that's become Lds "scripture" anyway!!! See Joseph Smith - History in the Pearl of Great Price...and besides, hey, they, too can claim, "I'm a Mormon.")
So what if there's a "I-don't-believe-in-the-Book-of-Mormon" Mormon? (Can't they be on a "I'm a Mormon" too commercial???)
From the article: ...the most central doctrines...
What are those within Mormonism, anyway? Most of what was once "alleged" as "central Mormon doctrines" aren't even found in the Book of Mormon, anyway! So the Mormon church was incomplete in 1830-1831, etc. without them???
We've seen Mormon leaders bale on all kinds of "central teachings" ... like polygamy in the United States before the Mormon jesus returns. Mormons have no centralized approach to doctrine, anymore...it's all been riddled with possible "opinions" of men speaking forth.
From the article: Polygamist Mormons...
Well, not only "why can't polygamist Mormons be D&C 132 Mormons?"...but hey, aren't polygamist Mormons supposedly alive right now in the celestial kingdom?...aren't they considered by mainstream Mormons to be Mormons, too? (If not, who ex-communicated them?)
Are there alive RIGHT NOW even a few Lds general authorities who have married two wives (sequentially) & anticipate being married to BOTH in the afterlife? (Aren't they Mormons, too?)
I don't really care. I'm much more concerned when they call themselves Christians since they do not adhere to the most basic of Christian doctrines.
Yet this other question shows their hypocrisy. They start stuttering over Christians wanting to define what it means to be "in Christ"; yet want to dominate what in means to be "in Mormo."
Oh...and if you want to define "Mormo" pre-Mormonism...to see who this "god" is...look here: The Occult & Restoration Story (post #12)
Or read paragraph 6 here: Omens and Superstitions (Romans and Etruscans)
These links show that Mormons don't possess or own even the "original rights" to the god, Mormo!
They are an extension of him! (They've got the proprietary claims all mixed up & turned topsy-turvy!)
Cults typically manifest a territorial/paranoid psychopathy.
Mormons are a CULT plain and Simple, no different than Scientology.
Who except Mormon haters gives a d**m.
People who cannot bear to see Mormonism exposed, seem to care a lot.
Because they are self-righteous blankety blanks comes to mind, but that would be too easy.
Probably because they have a LOT of MONEY and they think the Golden Rule applies:
He who has the gold... yada yada yada...
What fascinates me is how they do NOT see the hypocracy in it:
SLC 'mormons' are NOT the ones who actually FOLLOW D&C 132, but the FUNDAMENTALists!THEY should be the ones to be called MORMON if ANY of them do!
Why does the LDS church try to claim that they are the only ones who can be called “Christians?
Well the Christian haters do...
What mormon haters? Name names and show post numbers.
Mormons hate themselves?
Deuteronomy 22:22 “If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die.”
Leviticus 20:10 “If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.”
“By whom?”, is the question; isn’t it.
The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.
The lds-org is a thief of the Name and the Truth of Jesus Christ.