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To: Iscool
My friend. There is no way we get ideas once saved always saved from the bible. If we buy into this saved always. It is from a book or minister or other influence that then gives us a verse. We make it into what it does not declare.

We did not just by reading the new testament only come up with these ideas. First we read it somewhere else then go back to look for it in scripture. Then we prop it up by isolating that verse that we try to prove by bad semantics.

Which also proves some of us do not get it from the bible. Al la solo scriputural. It is a farce from the enemy.

Now we can ask for the guidence until we die. I now I have. I know by the Holy Spirit' s confirmation to myself. I pray a lot . When you pray you know Christ.

We have to cooperate. John the Apostle states IF WE Sin we have to confess our Sin. We respond. Otherwise why does John put IF . If he believed this nonsense. He would not put that we have to confess.

Jesus is love and justice. There is no love or justice if he makes you do it. We are not Robots.

He is not a dictator.

102 posted on 02/18/2012 1:59:16 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace
My friend. There is no way we get ideas once saved always saved from the bible. If we buy into this saved always. It is from a book or minister or other influence that then gives us a verse. We make it into what it does not declare.

There's a few hundred million bible believers/readers who will disagree with your, myself included...

I and many others on FR have posted numerous verses of scripture that point out that once saved, always saved...Verses that are in plain, clear writing...

And these are verses that you guys refuse to respond to...And of course you can't...And your religion avoids those scriptures like they are the plague...

104 posted on 02/18/2012 5:41:15 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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