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To: NYer

I think this is an interesting philosophical debate, and it has awakened some thoughts in me.

I enjoy the company of the opposite sex as much as anyone. (I will forego the details.) But I never really thought about this aspect before: if someone’s taking a pill, or using what is essentially the equivalent of surgical gloves (do I have to spell it out?) in connection with an activity, that doesn’t sound like the definition of “intimacy” to me. Sounds like the opposite! On some level, it makes the execrise seem kind of silly, or pointless in a way. Like going wading in the ocean but wearing a full deep-sea diver’s suit.

No, I am not starting a crusade to ban birth control. but it’s interesting for me to realize that some of the ideas I have taken for granted are changing.

I don’t know if this makes sense. please delete if inappropriate.


4 posted on 02/16/2012 12:26:36 PM PST by cvq3842
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I am not starting a crusade to ban birth control. but it’s interesting for me to realize that some of the ideas I have taken for granted are changing. I don’t know if this makes sense.

On the contrary, it makes perfectly good sense.

Few realize that up until 1930, all Protestant denominations agreed with the Catholic Church’s teaching condemning contraception as sinful. At its 1930 Lambeth Conference, the Anglican church, swayed by growing social pressure, announced that contraception would be allowed in some circumstances. Soon the Anglican church completely caved in, allowing contraception across the board. Since then, all other Protestant denominations have followed suit. Today, the Catholic Church alone proclaims the historic Christian position on contraception.

Evidence that contraception is in conflict with God’s laws comes from a variety of sources that will be examined in this tract. Read More

Thanks for the post and ping!

6 posted on 02/16/2012 12:38:01 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: cvq3842

-—No, I am not starting a crusade to ban birth control. but it’s interesting for me to realize that some of the ideas I have taken for granted are changing.
I don’t know if this makes sense. please delete if inappropriate-—

The Spirit is working in you, if I may be presumptuous. You’re absolutely correct.

One aspect of the argument against artificial means of contraception (or artificially induced sterility, as I prefer to call it), that Pope John Paul II emphasized, is that the act of contracepting makes the marital act a lie. “I love you, but not enough to give myself completely to you.”

Seriously, Google “Humanae Vitae.” It’s actually a very easy read. The pope bases his arguments in nature. In fact, he never appeals to divine revelation.

I’ve been where you’ve been.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 12:41:13 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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