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The Episcopal Church: The fruit of building with Satan's blueprints...
La Salette Journey ^ | February 21, 2012 | Paul Melanson

Posted on 02/21/2012 7:52:42 AM PST by cleghornboy

The Episcopal Church: The fruit of building with Satan's blueprints...

"That if gold rust, what shall iron do?/ For if a priest be foul, in whom we trust,/ No wonder is a lewd man to rust." - Geoffrey Chaucer.

Remember V. Gene Robinson, New Hampshire's Episcopal "Bishop" who said that the Vatican's ban on ordaining men with a homosexual inclination was "vile" and represented an "act of violence"? As I noted back in 2009, Mr. Robinson once opined that "the Episcopal Church and its proclamation of God's inclusive love" was something which appealed to young people who want to be part of a church "in which there truly are no outcasts."

I responded thusly:

"Of course, such a 'church' would not be Christian. The God of both Old and New Testaments loves all but has been known to be exclusive. Remember the Ark which saved Noah and his family? Outside there was wailing and gnashing of teeth.

When Jesus began His public ministry, He did so with the word 'repent' (Matthew 4:17). And He advised the woman caught in adultery to 'sin no more' (John 8:11). Likewise, in the case of the man cured at the Pool of Bethesda, Jesus advised him to 'sin no more lest something worse befall thee' (John 5:14). When queried on the subject of how many would be saved, Jesus replied 'few' because the 'gate' to Heaven is 'narrow' (Matthew 7:13-14). And while no one can pinpoint the precise meaning of the word 'few,' still, it is sobering that Jesus chose the image of a narrow gate.

Jesus is likened in the gospel to a stern master who has lazy servants flogged and murderous ones put to death (Matthew 21:41; Luke 12:47). And while it is true that Jesus is Mercy, He is also Justice. And for every parable illustrative of His mercy, there are three or four threatening divine retribution. The Judgment Day is always described as a day of wrath and never as a day of rejoicing (Proverbs 11:4; Zephaniah 1:15; Sirach 5:10; Romans 2:5; Revelation 6:17).

Just as some were excluded - almost all in fact - (because of their own sinfulness) from that salvation which was found in Noah's Ark [a figure of the Church], so too some will be excluded from the Heavenly Kingdom because they preferred their own will to God's: 'The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will collect out of his kingdom all who cause others to sin and all evildoers. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.' (Matthew 13: 41,42)."

In a post at his Blog Canterbury Tales from the Fringe, Gene Robinson boldly stated that, "My sense is that the place of the Episcopal Church in the Anglican Communion is not in danger. Strained and tense, sometimes, yes. But actually threatened, no. Are we in the same place regarding the issue of homosexuality -- of course not. But the bonds of affection are strong and deep, and God will see us through this difficult time. This is a strong belief exhibited by all the primates and bishops visiting this Convention from across the Anglican Communion. It confirms my own belief that it is time for us to stand up and be the Church God is calling us to be, and trust that the Anglican Communion will not only survive, but be a blessing to all." (See here).

Mr. Robinson may have believed that all would be well in the Episcopal Church. But as Pat Buchanan explains, "Today, the Episcopal Church is divided and disintegrating, having lost a million members since 2000. It has been torn asunder over morality, the ordination of female and gay priests and bishops, and the legitimacy of same-sex unions. The Church's share of the adult population has fallen to less than 1 percent...In Fairfax County, Virginia, nine parishes broke with the national Episcopal Church over the installation at Washington National Cathedral of Katharine Jefferts Schori as the 26th Presiding Bishop. Schori had blessed same-sex unions and supported the consecration of Gene Robinson as bishop of New Hampshire, who had left his wife and daughters and entered a homosexual union. Seven of 111 Episcopal dioceses refused to accept Schori's elevation."

The result of the Episcopal Church's apostasy from the Gospel? Buchanan: "All the efforts by mainstream churches to accommodate modernity have gone hand in hand with what Newsweek sees as the decline and fall of Christianity in the United States. Now ranked fifteenth in congregants, the Episcopal Church is losing members more rapidly than are the Presbyterians, Lutherans, or Methodists." (Suicide of a Superpower, pp. 56-57, 58),

The Episcopal Church has sought to become a church made in the image and likeness of man. It has ignored the warning of the Psalmist, in clear dogmatic language, that "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it." Fr. Vincent Miceli explains that, "This truth holds for the building of families, societies, nations, international communities and, above all, of Churches....building without the Lord is equivalent to building with the aid of Satan. And any city that rises from Satan's blueprints can only end up a City of Hatred and Violent Death."

Or, as my mentor Gabriel Marcel put it, "When man becomes God, society becomes a termite colony and collapses from within."

The whole sorry story of the Episcopal Church provides us with a sobering warning: that without Jesus we can do nothing. To the extent that churches stray from the Gospel, they disintegrate and become meaningless and irrelevant.

Related reading: Pastor Rick Warren and Barack Obama have welcomed Gene Robinson's


TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostasy; church; episcopal; robinson

1 posted on 02/21/2012 7:52:46 AM PST by cleghornboy
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To: cleghornboy

No one, NO ONE, can be glad that ANY Christian denomination has these problems. It’s a sad note for any reason.


2 posted on 02/21/2012 8:16:39 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
It’s a sad note for any reason.

Sadder still, when self-imposed.

3 posted on 02/21/2012 8:23:56 AM PST by trad_anglican
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To: cleghornboy

“By mercy and truth iniquity is purged; and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” (Proverbs 16:6)

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effinate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inheritors, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)

“And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the spirit of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:11)


4 posted on 02/21/2012 8:31:56 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: cloudmountain

You assume TEC (as they now abbreviate their name) is still a Christian demonination. Much of the reason for the decline in numbers is that Christians have fled TEC to “swim the Bosphorus”, “swim the Tiber”, put themselves under Anglican bishops from Africa, where Anglicanism still exists in its classical, identifiably Christian form, or set up “continuing Anglican churches”. What’s left, the nice old church ladies whose first loyalty is to their parish aside, is at best as Christian as the libertine strains of gnosticism from the first few Christian centuries.

The moment “Anglican inclusiveness” started including not just low-church evangelicals, broadchurchmen and Anglo-Catholics, but folks who deny tenants of what Lewis called “mere Christianity” (like the Holy Trinity, cf. Bishop Pike) the game was up even before the slide into embracing secular “morality”.


5 posted on 02/21/2012 9:02:17 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
TEC and Anglicans started writing letters to the Vatican some 40 years ago. They didn't write as individuals but as congregations with priest attached to said congregation. They asked to "cross the Tiber" and become Catholics (again?).

The Vatican HAS written their "ordinarium" which allows them to keep their own litury, which is also what they wanted when they would become Catholics.

The Vatican said "yes" and with some alterations, that is, the Transubstantiation, and all those TEC and Anglicans will be Catholic.
There were so many Anglican and TEC priests (all men, of course) who wanted to become Catholic priests (keeping wife, of course) that a seminary was opened in this country. A second seminary has opened recently.

I agree 100% with YOUR analysis.

6 posted on 02/21/2012 9:21:19 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: trad_anglican
It’s a sad note for any reason.
Sadder still, when self-imposed.

Amen to that.

7 posted on 02/21/2012 10:14:39 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

The question is: is the Epicopal Church Christian any longer?


8 posted on 02/21/2012 10:18:35 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: cleghornboy
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matthew 7:14 KJV
9 posted on 02/21/2012 10:24:58 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: The_Reader_David
It actually began in the time of Newman, who opposed the “noetics” as part of the Oxford Movement. Newman had come to Oxford as an evangelicals, having had his “conversion” moment at at early age, then having seen how “faith alone”provided little guidance against liberalism in religion, began to turn to the Fathers and Tradition for that. Eventually, of course, he does “swim” the Tiber. So did others in the Oxford Movement, but many toughed it out, and started the sect called Anglo-Catholics. Richard Church started the liturgical movement, ending up with an English liturgy based on the prayer book and absolutely gorgeous.

( As an Anglophile, I regretted that when we Latins went for the vernacular that we didn’t use what the Anglicans had done but “invented” the clunky New Mass. that practically reveled in flat language and endless experimentation. That evidentally greatly pained the present pope whose brother was a musician and who himself plays Mozart for pleasure. Thank God, we now a slight improvement in the new translatioin and rubics.)

10 posted on 02/21/2012 10:44:15 AM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS
Thank God, we now a slight improvement in the new translatioin and rubics

Having been raised on Cranmer's prose, I think it's more than a slight improvement. But your initial point is well taken.

11 posted on 02/21/2012 2:48:13 PM PST by trad_anglican
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To: crosshairs

Amen Brother!


12 posted on 02/22/2012 10:24:08 AM PST by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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