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Time Magazine Op-Ed: Perhaps “Some Time in Jail” for Catholic Bishops Defending Religious Liberty
Catholic Vote.org ^ | 2/23/12 | John Powers

Posted on 02/24/2012 11:29:21 AM PST by marshmallow

Nothing defines a modern liberal better than a opportunity to deny fundamental rights to political opponents. Case in point, a Time Magazine Ideas! Blogger Erika Christakis has some rather aggressive ones directed at Catholic Bishops

Let’s see what our society would look like if we all had the luxury of imposing our unfettered will. At a minimum, the Catholic bishops and employers resisting contraceptive coverage should be willing to pay for the care of all those unwanted children. Or perhaps they’d be willing to spend some time in jail in protest. At my taxpaying expense, of course.

Christakis, who claims some rather tenuous connections to Harvard (she is sort of Room-Mom) tells us that “Our social contract requires that we must occasionally stomach government policies that offend and outrage us”, so her suggestion…take the bait and suffer the moral consequences, or else go to jail.

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1 posted on 02/24/2012 11:29:28 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Actually, some of them should have been thrown in Jail years ago for urging illegal aliens to break the US laws, and also using Catholic churches as Sanctuary for these law breakers!!


2 posted on 02/24/2012 11:32:46 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: marshmallow

Actually, some of them should have been thrown in Jail years ago for urging illegal aliens to break the US laws, and also using Catholic churches as Sanctuary for these law breakers!!


3 posted on 02/24/2012 11:33:00 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: marshmallow

Actually, some of them should have been thrown in Jail years ago for urging illegal aliens to break the US laws, and also using Catholic churches as Sanctuary for these law breakers!!


4 posted on 02/24/2012 11:33:08 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: marshmallow
“Our social contract requires that we must occasionally stomach government policies that offend and outrage us”,

Totalitarian mindset in action. Rousseau has so much to answer for.

5 posted on 02/24/2012 11:36:50 AM PST by C19fan
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To: marshmallow

“Our social contract requires that we must stomach government policies that offend and outrage us”

This ignorant parasite doesn’t understand that we pay for the government and we shouldn’t have to put up with things that offend and outrage us. We do not have a totalitarian system yet. Though it is rapidly approaching. We need to get these parasites out of government and return sanity to our country.


6 posted on 02/24/2012 11:36:57 AM PST by detective
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To: marshmallow
I think this idiot skank has stumbled onto something. I would like to see Catholic bishops, and protestant clergy as well, engage in civil disobedience of the law and allow themselves to be jailed.

The spectacle of classic "prisoners of conscience" in the USA of Obama 2012 would be intensely educational to the ignorant liberal masses, and make for fascinating twists and turns by the whorehouse media covering the events.

7 posted on 02/24/2012 11:37:39 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: marshmallow

>>“Our social contract requires that we must occasionally stomach government policies that offend and outrage us”,

Then our social contract is wrong. The government should fight the wars, sign the treaties, build some roads to promote commerce between the states, defend the borders, etc. That is the Constitutional contract. A government that doesn’t interfere with a person’s life cannot offend and outrage. Their “social contract” is taken right out of the pages of Marx.


8 posted on 02/24/2012 11:38:23 AM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: marshmallow

She sounds a lot like the people who jailed Dr. King.


9 posted on 02/24/2012 11:40:28 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: marshmallow
Or perhaps they’d be willing to spend some time in jail in protest.

Just to make the libs' heads explode, put them in the cell where Martin Luther King was held in Birmingham.

10 posted on 02/24/2012 11:41:53 AM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Lurker

I hate when people steal my ideas from out of my head and post them first. :-)


11 posted on 02/24/2012 11:42:57 AM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: marshmallow

“Our social contract requires that we must occasionally stomach government policies that offend and outrage us.”

I don’t recall signing any “social contract”.


12 posted on 02/24/2012 11:45:00 AM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: KarlInOhio

The last place in the universe you want me is inside your head. LOL


13 posted on 02/24/2012 11:49:41 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Her tax paying expense? Before he was sent to Rome for two months. My Pastor had to file his Income Taxes early. That's right. He's not just a Priest. He's an EMPLOYEE of the Archdiocese of Boston and gets a W-2 every year. Cardinal Law belongs is a Franciscan and takes no salary.
14 posted on 02/24/2012 11:52:19 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: marshmallow

Time has been a shill for these globalist satanists from Time’s founding:

http://twoday.net/static/omega/files/quotes_from_people_who_consider_us_subjects.htm


15 posted on 02/24/2012 11:56:49 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: C19fan
Totalitarian mindset in action. Rousseau has so much to answer for.

Does he ever. History is replete with examples of how savages, once given power, grow less "noble" and ever more savage. The idea of a "social compact" is one alien to natural law and to the inalienable human rights that flow from such law, because it is based upon a false notion of the proper relationship between man and government.

The central legitimate purpose of government is to protect liberty, not to engender its sacrifice. But when human sacrifice, rather than liberty becomes a nation's highest value, the State may command the obedience of all, even to the greatest of evils, and deny to each even the smallest virtue.

16 posted on 02/24/2012 11:58:53 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: marshmallow

There is a reason why no one reads Time anymore.


17 posted on 02/24/2012 12:00:27 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: marshmallow

Ah, the “social contract”, which only requires our drones to share their presence with us.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 12:07:08 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: massgopguy
Cardinal Law belongs is a Franciscan and takes no salary.

Sean Cardinal O'Malley is a Franciscan who takes no salary, Cardinal Law currently resides in Rome.

19 posted on 02/24/2012 12:07:50 PM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The whorehouse media wouldn’t cover it, just like the Nazi propagandists didn’t cover the Holocaust. It was a state-run media then, and it is a state-run media now. Literally. That is a factual statement; it’s been accomplished through threats.

The German people were subject to the methodology of a cult and that is how the Nazis were able to achieve the results they did. America is now subject - literally - to the same cultic methodology and the only thing standing in the way of Obama’s ability to achieve the same kind of cultic results is the ability of you and me to get the word out without media arms. When the internet and social media are taken away from us - as they will be - that will remove the last obstacle.


20 posted on 02/24/2012 12:08:48 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: marshmallow
Catholic bishops and employers resisting contraceptive coverage should be willing to pay for the care of all those unwanted children.

Like these women won't get off the pill and get pregnant anytime they want to (or when they're too drunk or stoned to remember taking them) and then we have pay for those kids anyway.
When did the pill become a human right?

The libs are like children and bullies rolled into one.
What they are saying essentially boils down to:
"If you don't do what *I* want, the next stupid thing I do will be *YOUR* fault."

21 posted on 02/24/2012 12:11:06 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

They want to take away your rights and when you defend yourself with your god-given right to do so, they want to take away even more of your rights.


22 posted on 02/24/2012 12:20:18 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: BitWielder1

Catholic bishops and employers resisting contraceptive coverage should be willing to pay for the care of all those unwanted children.

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I’ve been on some message boards lately embroiled in a fight over the Virginia abortion laws. This has been the theme of many of the liberal goons on the board ...”If you want to make abortion illegal, why don’t YOU pay, take care of these unwanted children!”

As if it’s our fault, OUR responsibility now, somehow, to pay for THEIR irresponsibility!! It’s absoutely absurd.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 12:21:06 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Lurker
"She sounds a lot like the people who jailed Dr. King."

That's because it is the same people, the fascist democrat party that instituted Jim Crow and fought King every step of the way.

24 posted on 02/24/2012 12:24:06 PM PST by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: marshmallow
I have read our "social contract" (i.e. The Constitution of the United States of America) many times, and I can state categorically that it absolutely does NOT contain one single clause, sentence or even a word, which could possibly, in any way, be interpreted by a sane, intelligent, person, as empowering our government to require ANYONE, whether associated with a church or not, to offer, provide or pay for someone else's contraceptive devices.
25 posted on 02/24/2012 12:24:58 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: marshmallow

Well ..they ARE making it official finally...that exercise of the fundamental freedoms of religion...for which the USA was established...have become the greatest “threat” to the Oligarchy


26 posted on 02/24/2012 12:30:30 PM PST by mo
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To: marshmallow
This hack magazine has been pushing this secular BS for years. They are so irrelevant now that they have some low level janitor at Harvard to inject radicalism into the discussion..


27 posted on 02/24/2012 12:32:07 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: marshmallow

Perhaps Time bloggers (or even some of the real staffers) might be cool with spending time in jail for not ratting out their sources. Or writing something somebody in power doesn’t like. No? No, I didn’t think so.


28 posted on 02/24/2012 12:39:13 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
That was the issue where they covered T.J.J.Altizer at Emory University, iirc.

They hadda love that headline opportunity. Stuff like that boosts those newstand sales like nobody's business.

"Is Time Dead?" Call me when the answer is YES!

29 posted on 02/24/2012 12:40:34 PM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: marshmallow

Time is coming soon where me might literally have no choice but to take down the government.

“Dissent is Patriotic”- what was that, 4 years ago??


30 posted on 02/24/2012 12:47:16 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: thulldud
"Is Time Dead?" Call me when the answer is YES!

Ring Ring...

Magazine and circulation

Better Homes And Gardens 7,617,844

People 3,569,811

Time 3,298,390

One might say being under People Magazine is being dead.

31 posted on 02/24/2012 1:03:48 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: marshmallow
Or perhaps they’d be willing to spend some time in jail in protest. At my taxpaying expense, of course

I have no doubt that that day is coming, and not just for the bishops.

Pray that we not be put to the test.

32 posted on 02/24/2012 1:19:25 PM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Well, it’s not zero yet, but I imagine it never will be as long as there are libraries and doctors’ offices.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 2:28:26 PM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: marshmallow

Time obviously can’t grasp that there is no greater gift an ungodly unregenerate world could give a Catholic Priest or Bishop than to put them in jail for defending their Savior.


34 posted on 02/25/2012 6:24:20 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
There is *one* greater gift ... martyrdom. That may be coming, as well.

"The blood of the martyrs is the seed of Christians" -- Tertullian.

35 posted on 02/25/2012 7:44:39 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Nietzche: (spelling?) “God is dead”

God: “Nietzche is dead”


36 posted on 02/26/2012 12:36:51 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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