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Posted on 02/29/2012 6:04:50 PM PST by Colofornian
Britain's late Princess Diana has been posthumously baptised a Mormon.
The royal - who was killed in a Paris car crash in August 1997 - was 'baptised' by the church after her death, even though she didn't belong to the religion.
Diana - former wife of heir to the throne Prince Charles - was listed by her maiden name, Diana Frances Spencer, with her address as the family seat of Althorp, Northamptonshire.
Her file also includes her birth and death date, according to the Daily Mail newspaper.
Other late stars to have been 'baptised' posthumously include Charlie Chaplin, Marilyn Monroe and Rita Hayworth.
The Mormon Church believes that in the afterlife no one is beyond redemption, no matter how evil they were, so the list also includes Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.
Helen Radkey has been investigating the Mormon Church - which is one of the world's fastest growing religions with 14 million followers, almost half in the US.
Using a computer log-on passed to her by a disaffected follower, she researched the databases in the Church's Family History Library and found that the names of hundreds of thousands of dead people had been logged, so they could be baptised as Mormons.
(I wonder if Monroe is reserved for Joseph Smith as an afterlife wife...what would Emma think...or Joe DiMaggio?)
just out of curiosity...
why would the mormons be doing something that seems so... stupid?
People say they don’t care about Romney’s religion, but I quite frankly don’t want anyone who believes this craziness leading the nation.
If Romney is on the GOP ticket,
these egregious events will be DAILY fodder
on all channels of the MSM.
So they can claim to be the world’s fastest growing religion, don’t you know.
The article says 14 million are Mormons, but don’t say how many are alive.
I can’t understand why people get upset over this stuff. They think they are doing a good thing. What harm are they doing?
Whats up with this weirdo practice?
Well darn. I wish there were a pervasive 24 hour news channel, radio stations galore and a global web, erh, Internet so we could learn about this.
It doesnt affect but injures the living for its insult of co-opting a loved ones memory with an appendix.
Personally, you wanna pray over my ashes, which will be compressed into golfballs and sent sailing into the ocean... be my guest.Luke 16
Good for Diana. Now I know I’ll meet her in heaven. She was still a babe when she crapped out!
Can Whitney Houston be far behind?
So, the holocaust victims are in mormon heaven with Hitler. And they are there to do what? Be servants to the Mormons in the celestial kingdom?
So if you were a Jewish mortician who got a network of worldwide morticians to circumcize dead people...to make them supposed afterlife Jews...why, they think they are doing a "good thing"...would they not? And who would know? (Therefore, in your book, what harm would they be doing?)
Millions of Mormon man-hours -- Genealogy -- is rooted in baptizing dead people. Now, genealogy for "roots-searching" is fine, but when "genealogy as ultra time consuming religious obsession" takes over, wouldn't you say it might be good to consider what the apostle Paul has to say about this?
Or do you all just ignore the New Testament?
...stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer nor to devote themselves to myths AND ENDLESS GENEALOGIES. THESE PROMOTE CONTROVERSIES RATHER THAN GOD'S WORKwhich is by faith." (1 Timothy 1:3-4)
But AVOID FOOLISH CONTROVERSIES AND GENEALOGIES...because these are unprofitable and useless. (Titus 3:9)
(Paul says it's useless, provokes controversy, and is not faith-promoting. So even the controversy ignited by protagonist Mormons is distracting)
As for the question, "Does this 'hurt' anyone?" yes it does -- in two prominent ways...
(a) It hurts the living because over-focusing on the dead distracts what we can do in relating to & in caring for the living!.
We can all agree that Jesus talked much about serving the living -- the poor, the widow, the orphan, the lost sheep, right?
So what would happen in the world if all religions obsessed with the dead as much as Mormons do? Obviously, we're not going to "end poverty in our lifetime" (Jesus said, "the poor will always be with you")...but since countless LDS leaders have called the Mormon people self-saviors and saviors of the dead, it's not only a distraction from the poor but delusional.
(b) Since countless LDS leaders have called the Mormon people self-saviors and saviors of the dead, it's not only a distraction from the poor but delusional.
We already have a "Savior of the world" -- we don't need millions more trying to bump Jesus out of that limelight:
* And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be THE Savior of the world. (1 John 4:14)
* They said to the woman, "We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is THE Savior of the world." (John 4:42)
Last time I looked in the Bible, Christians were supposed to object to idolatry in their culture. And if you don't think that Mormons make baptizers of the dead "saviors" who rival Jesus Christ, you haven't read their leaders' comments on baptism of the dead. For those citations, see: Are Mormon people LITERAL saviors of dead Jews, others? (The OTHER World Series: Vanity)
If you're a Christian or Jew and you conclude "this doesn't harm anyone," you're catering to idolatry -- substitute "saviors" pretending to act in his name.
I’m hopeful that the Mormons keep this up .... especially babe-wise.
“GOOD GIRLS GO TO HEAVEN, BUT BAD GIRLS GO WHEREVER THEY WANT”
See that doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t now how it insults or co-opts anything. If you don’t belive as they do (and I don’t) then they are just flaping their gums.
No harm. They do believe that Princess Diana can decline the invitation in the great beyond. Kind of like Jehovah’s Witnesses knocking on your door, but your dead.
Whats up with this weirdo practice? [mylife]
See post #14...See vanity link about how Mormons describe themselves as competitors of Jesus as saviors...They really think they act as "saviors" by doing this...
“There was this guy who was born to a woman to had never had sex, he could raise men from the dead, then he died, but he wasn't really dead....”
Mormons are such silly people. Based on a cult, one that denies the Grace of Our Lord, Jesus Christ. There was nothing for Jesus to complete in the Americas, other than conversion of the lost whom live there!
“There was this guy who was born to a woman who had never had sex, he could raise men from the dead, then he died, but he wasn't really dead....”
My mother was deeply opposed to mormonism for personal reasons; anything and everything about mormons upset her greatly. My mother died recently and think it is highly likely a mormon grandchild will baptize her into it. That thought upsets and distresses me more than I can say, knowing how she felt about that cult, and especially knowing how seriously she took her Catholic faith. It is a terrible act of dishonor; it defiles her memory and her Christian witness. I feel very angry, hopeless, and helpless about it. No one should ever be dead dunked into that heretical cult without the agreement of that person’s close family.
Seems to me that there should be a conscious acceptance of Christ in a baptism.
Why not baptize dogs and rocks?
Using a computer log-on passed to her by a disaffected follower
These are the people who are causing families pain. The Mormons don’t send the families letters telling them they’ve done this. It’s a private ceremony. If there is any distress it’s because of jerks like this.
Anti-Mormons sanctimonious and self-righteous? Perish the thought!
I’ll make a lot of harm when they find out at the end of the day that they are wrong-and not saved at all...We must tell these people in love they are wrong, and that they MUST trust Jesus, and HIm only for their and their families.
I just have a hard time wrapping my brain around Marilyn Monroe in heaven, shooting the shit with Elvis one minute then finding herself whisked away into Mormon heaven where they are getting ready for an All-Saints football game against Jesus Christ and his disciples.
Some FREEPERS have sadly forgotten that actions teach...(You don't always have to use your mouth to instruct)
So what are Mormons teaching the world by baptizing the dead?
Here it is in a nutshell: If Hitler can be baptized as a Mormon, then it doesn't really matter all that much how you live your life. Oh, sure, you might miss out on Mormon godhood -- and your own planet. But if we're just talking about basic Mormon "salvation" accommodations...go ahead...live anyway you choose now...and accept later the Mormon proxy dead-dunking on your behalf.
I'm really trying to understand your point of view. Do you think they are doing damage to your mother's immortal soul?
“See, we want to go to war with you guys because our little invisible man who lives in the clouds is better than your little invisible man who lives in the clouds.....”
The evil is done by the Mormons, not the people uncovering the evil and letting the family know what is being done to their family in these secret ceremonies, and how they are being stalked for information on their deaths.
Let's look at the "Americas" Book of Mormon "jesus" shall we?
This ABSOLUTELY VITAL difference of the Mormon restored gospel is presenting a violent Mormon jesus: When the Mormon jesus dies, he unleashes punishment and levels 16 cities, killing 70,000-->90,000 people (see 3 Nephi 8 and 3 Nephi 9). Nothing of the kind is stated in the Bible.
Yes, there was judgment on the cross!
Yes, it was terrible!
But the real Jesus absorbed all of that judgment and terror -- our very sins -- there on the cross!
Easter is coming up. Too many LDS & RLDS alike ONLY see the Book of Mormon Easter judgment upon people! The week that followed the Book of Mormon jesus resurrection, was a terrible 4 days or so! No wonder they want to stay away from the cross and what immediately happened according to the Joseph Smith version of events:
Mormon version of Jesus speaking post-resurrection:
city Zarahemla: I burned with fire, and the inhabitants thereof [3 Nephi 9:3; cf. 3 Nephi 8:8, 24)
city Moroni: I caused to be sunk in the depths of the sea, and the inhabitants thereof to be drowned. [3 Nephi 9:4; cf. 3 Nephi 8:9]
city Moronihah: have I covered with earth, and the inhabitants thereof, to hide their iniquities and their abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints shall not come any more unto me against them. (3 Nephi 9:5)
city Gilgal: have I caused to be sunk, and the inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth; [3 Nephi 9:6]
cities Onihah, Mocum, and Jerusalem: waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof, to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints shall not come up any more unto me against them. [3 Nephi 9:7]
cities Gadiandi, Gadiomnah, Jacob, and Gimgimno: all these have I caused to be sunk, and made hills and valleys in the places thereof; and the inhabitants thereof have I buried up in the depths of the earth, to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints should not come up any more unto me against them. [3 Nephi 9:8]
city Jacobugath: have I caused to be burned with fire because of their sins and their wickedness, which was above all the wickedness of the whole earth, because of their secret murders and combinations; for it was they that did destroy the peace of my people and the government of the land; therefore I did cause them to be burned, to destroy them from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints should not come up unto me any more against them. [3 Nephi 9:9]
cities Laman, Josh, Gad, Kishkumen: have I caused to be burned with fire, and the inhabitants thereof, because of their wickedness in casting out the prophets, and stoning those whom I did send to declare unto them concerning their wickedness and their abominations. [3 Nephi 9:10]
In the true gospel Jesus is entombed.
In the Mormon restored gospel", the mass of people in Moronihah is the emphasis of entombment, having been covered with an entire mountain by the Mormon jesus! (3 Nephi 8:10)
On Easter week! The other cities were all either sunk by the Mormon jesus, or horrifically burned to death, plus for added emphasis, many great destructions have I caused to come upon this land... (3 Nephi 9:12)
The true gospel: "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Bible, Mark 2:17)
The Mormon Easter version of this: 11 And because they did cast them all out, that there were NONE RIGHTEOUS AMONG THEM, I did send down fire and destroy them, that their wickedness and abominations might be hid from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints whom I sent among them might not cry unto me from the ground against them. [3 Nephi 9:11]
Now if the destruction of all these Book of Mormon cities wasnt enough of an Easter tale for Smith, heres what he said went on in immediate days following Jesus resurrection:
3 Nephi 9:12:
12 And many great destructions have I caused to come upon this land
3 Nephi 8:
6 And there was also a great and terrible tempest; and there was terrible thunder, insomuch that it did shake the whole earth as if it was about to divide asunder.
7 And there were exceedingly sharp lightnings, such as never had been known in all the land.
11 And there was a great and terrible destruction in the land southward.
12 But behold, there was a more great and terrible destruction in the land northward; for behold, the whole face of the land was changed, because of the tempest and the whirlwinds, and the thunderings and the lightnings, and the exceedingly great quaking of the whole earth;
13 And the highways were broken up, and the level roads were spoiled, and many smooth places became rough.
15 And there were some cities which remained; but the damage thereof was exceedingly great, and there were many in them who were slain.
16 And there were some who were carried away in the whirlwind; and whither they went no man knoweth, save they know that they were carried away.
17 And thus the face of the whole earth became deformed, because of the tempests, and the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the quaking of the earth.
18 And behold, the rocks were rent in twain; they were broken up upon the face of the whole earth, insomuch that they were found in broken fragments, and in seams and in cracks, upon all the face of the land.
19 And it came to pass that when the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the storm, and the tempest, and the quakings of the earth did ceasefor behold, they did last for about the space of three hours; and it was said by some that the time was greater; nevertheless, all these great and terrible things were done in about the space of three hoursand then behold, there was darkness upon the face of the land.
20 And it came to pass that there was thick darkness upon all the face of the land, insomuch that the inhabitants thereof who had not fallen could feel the vapor of darkness;
21 And there could be no light, because of the darkness, neither candles, neither torches; neither could there be fire kindled with their fine and exceedingly dry wood, so that there could not be any light at all;
22 And there was not any light seen, neither fire, nor glimmer, neither the sun, nor the moon, nor the stars, for so great were the mists of darkness which were upon the face of the land.
23 And it came to pass that it did last for the space of three days that there was no light seen; and there was great mourning and howling and weeping among all the people continually; yea, great were the groanings of the people, because of the darkness and the great destruction which had come upon them.
24 And in one place they were heard to cry, saying: O that we had repented before this great and terrible day, and then would our brethren have been spared, and they would not have been burned in that great city Zarahemla
I'm sorry, but Jesus didn't come to make people "howl" in their own destruction (3 Nephi 8:23)...that wasn't his purpose in coming the first time!
Jesus said: I am come that they might have LIFE, and that they might have it more abundantly. (John 10:10)
If God decides to forgive Hitler that is none of my business.
No? Doesn’t make sense to you?
Well ain’t you above it all.
Being a thing is a choice of volition and Mormons are appending others lives without any regard for anyone’s feelings regarding their religion, beliefs and practices.
Now, what if there was a racist or anti-semitic religion who wanted to make a loved one part of their rolls?
It has no effect for it’s insult and synthetic intrusion into the livings memory of their loved one?
It’s not that you don’t see it. You don’t care.
these Mormons are complete LOONS ...
That’s what I’m trying to get at. What evil is being done to the dead souls? I don’t belive they have the power to do anything to them or for them. Do you disagree?
Generally speaking, war has been laid to rest over such matters EXCEPT with Islam.
Even Ireland got over “the troubles”
Jesus on the other team?!?!?!
Perish the thought!
So this is your take?
I think an interesting measure of Mormonism and whether it is evil, is the devotion that our few atheists here give to it.
Look at how they flock to this thread like moths.
Let’s stop feeding D-small-manA.
He is just here to be contrarian and push buttons.
That’s how he find relevancy for being here.
They indulge in foolish ceremonies. So what. How does that hurt me? How does that hurt you?
Being a thing is a choice of volition and Mormons are appending others lives without any regard for anyone's feelings regarding their religion, beliefs and practices.
You dont care.
That’s my point. Why do you?
No one needs to feel they are victims of Mormons. Just laugh at them.
Hmmm...and I thought God forgiving others was the "business" -- the Good News -- for others...just as this forgiveness was announced to the world about the Ephesians at the church there:
Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God FORGAVE you. (Ephesians 4:32)
Sorry, DManA...forgiveness is based upon...
...a this-world act (Jesus dying on the cross in THIS world)...
...and a this-world trust exercised (our trusting Jesus)...
After that: It's appointed for man to die once, and then the judgment." (Heb. 9:27)
It's not for men to die once, get another offer extended from Mormon missionaries in the spirit world, and then the judgment. [Unless you think the book of Hebrews' writer just wasn't "in the know"]
Really, you think the offense is against the dead? Do you think the world of shock and outrage from people when they learn what is being done them after death, and to their loved ones, is being expressed by dead people?
You think that the people posting their disgust and outrage on this thread are dead, these are the living, the people being stalked and knowing that the cult of our leading Presidential candidate, Bishop Romney, who leads and participates in these wicked cult practices will use our loved ones and ourselves in their twisted cult practice, speaking for us, using our names, having actors stand in for us.
We don’t have to sheepishly stand by and let them use our dead children and mothers this way, especially as one of their high leaders is running for president.