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Bomb the Kaaba And Eliminate Islam

Posted on 03/02/2012 8:35:43 PM PST by Jean Cauvin

Here me out before you conclude. I have a rational argument for what I am proposing.

In WWII, to defeat Japan America used psychological warfare as part of the battle. They knew that the ultimate destruction of the Japanese Empire at that time was to defame their leader/god figure. By humiliating him on national television forcing him to claim to the world that he is indeed not god and that he has been defeated allowed Japan to succeed and renew in the future. What we did is why Japan is such a successful country today.

Islam is using that exact same psychological tactic we used on the Japanese and they are winning by playing on our political correctness.

The Republican Platform speaks incorrectly as Islam being a religion of peace. While some ignorant Muslims may indeed be peaceful, this is not consistent Islaimic thinking according to the Hadith and even the Koran itself.

Politically speaking, I propose more of a military force by our government. Should Islamic Terrorists mess with us simply one more time. If they scratch their nose in the wrong direction. Should they bomb another building, whatever it may be, we need to destroy the religion of Islam forever.

By doing this we need to send fighter jets to vaporize that kaaba in Mecca. If the kaaba is vaporized through military bombings, then Islam the religion will die and then and only then, can we start the peace in the middle east and eliminate terrorism in the World and at home here in America.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).


TOPICS: Apologetics; Islam
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Muslims believe that their demon god allah will never let harm to the kaaba. If harm does come to it ,this ultimately destroys their faith. We would have done this in World War II in a heart beat, and because we have people like President obama who doesn't know how to crack an egg much less then a criminal terrorist, we are actually losing. Regarding the Terrorist and the American People, one has to wonder what side President obama is really on.
1 posted on 03/02/2012 8:35:51 PM PST by Jean Cauvin
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To: Jean Cauvin

Another possibility: provide every girl and woman of marriageable age in the muslim world with a 9mm semiauto pistol and 100 rounds of 9mm ammunition. Total cost would be around 70B USD and it would probably eliminate Islam from the planet.


2 posted on 03/02/2012 8:40:00 PM PST by varmintman
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To: varmintman

Baaaad idea - just remember that Muslim mothers hold their own daughters down while their clitoris and vaginal lips are cut away with a razor blade. They are MUSLIMS!

Bomb the Kaaba, sure. But do a Carthage on all of Islam and every Muslim.


3 posted on 03/02/2012 8:45:15 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Jean Cauvin

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.

Fislam


4 posted on 03/02/2012 8:45:54 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Jean Cauvin

I’ll tell you the one reason this is really although philosophically a great plan, impossible as practical reality.

If we were to do this, Muslims the world over would unleash hell on any Christian, Jew or Other in their area, causing millions to die from that genocide.

I for one wouldn’t want to be responsible for that. It would be very costly and difficult to mitigate those genocidal circumstances from happening in advance.


5 posted on 03/02/2012 8:47:19 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: Jean Cauvin

We don’t wonder what side “obama” (or whatever his name is) is on; we already know. He is playing for the other side—the side of Hell and all of America’s enemies.

It would be really, really nice to wipe off the face of the earth every, single muzzie shrine, but that will still not stop the vermin of Ishmael. The only thing that will ultimately stop them is the return of the Lord. He is going to fire the whole world up, and they ain’t gonna like it (in fact, most of the people of the world will not like the Lord’s return, AT ALL).


6 posted on 03/02/2012 8:50:56 PM PST by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: Jean Cauvin

We have a few options. IMO, the number one option should be to cease recognizing Islam as a religion and treat it as a political/governmental movement.

The liberal/statists/utopians that are infecting this country would have you believe that we can peacefully coexist alongside Muslims. That belief will be the end of this country.

Islam and Christianity/Western Culture/Judeo-Christain government principles are INCOMPATIBLE.


7 posted on 03/02/2012 8:52:31 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Jean Cauvin

You know you’re right, the day this happens every muslim in every country will just give up their religion. I guess for a while they will wander around with no religion. Then they will all have to become Christians and when you ask them they will say “Well, that Kaaba got destroyed, so I guess ole Muhammed was a lyin”. It’ll be great just think in Afghanistan no more Taliban, no more Al Queda. They will have no religion any more. I wonder if Amadinejad in Iran will give up nuclear weapons too because after all with no more belief in Islam, there will be no more motivation to eliminate Israel, they can become friendly with Israel. It’ll be great because they may take that Grand Mosque in Istanbul and turn it back into Saint Sofia Cathedral. I wonder what they will do with all the mosques in America when they all give up their religion, who cares, maybe bowling alleys or Chuck E Cheeses. I guess they won’t get mad at us or anything over this because after all we will logically have shown them that their religion is false and they’ll just give up so no basis for any retaliation or anger, just imagine even the Saudis who safeguard that faith will have to just drop the whole thing. It certainly does seem you have propounded the means by which we can put that entire religion out of business pronto. Thank you.


8 posted on 03/02/2012 8:55:02 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

IBTFRFZ: In before the Free Republic Fatwa Zottttt


9 posted on 03/02/2012 9:01:21 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Jean Cauvin

BTW further to my post, considering this is your first day on Free Republic and you stepped forward to announce a plan by which the muslim religion will be eliminated so quickly and efficiently, We ceratinly at least should know every March 2 as “Jean Cauvin Day” and it will be a great day for celebrations perhaps even the former muslims will give special reverence to this day. If, of course the plan is adopted and carried out, nonetheless I think just for the idea a day of recognition is merited.


10 posted on 03/02/2012 9:01:29 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

>>If we were to do this, Muslims the world over would unleash hell on any Christian, Jew or Other in their area, causing millions to die from that genocide.

That is going to happen anyway as soon as they feel the timing is right. That is what their cult teaches them to do, what they have always done as soon as they are able, and are doing today.

WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTOS:
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/indonesia-murdering-and-beheading-three-christian-schoolgirls-gets-just-19-years-jail/


11 posted on 03/02/2012 9:03:17 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Williams

That’s not fair! I posted the same idea on 09-12-01.


12 posted on 03/02/2012 9:04:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

I suggest allowing those Christians, Jews and others to emigrate here instead of muslims.


13 posted on 03/02/2012 9:07:17 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Jean Cauvin

You have to have a world leader that is willing to do this. Currently we have no such leader.


14 posted on 03/02/2012 9:09:21 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Jean Cauvin

All they would say is they moved the “real” kaaba somewhere else, because “allah” would NEVER allow the true kaaba to be destroyed.

But I still say go for it.


15 posted on 03/02/2012 9:11:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Yes but millions of muslims would lsoe faith because the kaaba was destroyed and this was supposed to be impossible if allah was god.


16 posted on 03/02/2012 9:13:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

“If we were to do this, Muslims the world over would unleash hell on any Christian, Jew or Other in their area, causing millions to die from that genocide.”

The whole of the existence of Islam is about forcing others to submit to their “religion”. They have proven time and again that they will kill those who don’t. The ones who haven’t done so certainly support the ones who do, or will. Against such enemies a course of appeasement or inaction will ultimately doom us. The strongest possible attack might well bring on the result you mentioned. The thing is, it might be possible to resist the backlash now. If, in desperation, it is resorted to later, it might not be.


17 posted on 03/02/2012 9:15:20 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Jean Cauvin

18 posted on 03/02/2012 9:15:20 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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To: TigersEye

Not a problem there will not be a conflict, because 9/12 remains available for the commemoration of TigersEye Day. However, I am concerned because this means the idea has circulated some time without action. Then again, we cannot expect something this momentous to be achieved over night.


19 posted on 03/02/2012 9:16:00 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Jean Cauvin

Bombing Mecca and making it unlivable will be a fatal blow to the deathcult.

I have no doubts about it, as in Muslim eyes it will show the futility of Allah in protecting the earthly focus of that cult.


20 posted on 03/02/2012 9:16:42 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Jean Cauvin

Islam is a death cult, must be declared illegal, and eliminated from the planet Earth.


21 posted on 03/02/2012 9:16:46 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: Jean Cauvin
"By humiliating him on national television forcing him to claim to the world that he is indeed not god and that he has been defeated allowed Japan to succeed and renew in the future. "

Plain silly.

There was no national television.

Japan was defeated with the Atomic Bomb...and the 1000's of B-29s that preceded it.

Oh, and the US Navy and Marine Corps.

22 posted on 03/02/2012 9:17:42 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Williams
OK. It just didn't seem right that people should go around saying that Jean Cauvin thought of it first. The truth is ... I don't think I thought of it first either. Shhhh!
23 posted on 03/02/2012 9:20:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Jean Cauvin

“humiliating him on national television”

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


24 posted on 03/02/2012 9:25:11 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: TigersEye

I proposed it as well, but not by bombing. That is too obvious. We have the technology to crumble that already crumbling structure using sonic pulses. It is only held together by a band of gold metal strapping. The covering over it hides the damage. A sonic blast would be invisible and unlike a bomb, no real discernable sound except a possible hum. As superstitious as these people are, they would think it was a supernatural act...that allah had forsaken them. A dentist’s minor sonic pulse can bust through plaque on teeth breaking it to small bits of dust.
Imagine a strange humming sound from seemingly nowhere that crumbles already crumbling spacerock into dust.


25 posted on 03/02/2012 9:25:56 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Mariner

I’m pretty sure they had radio and newspaper. Propaganda is a big part of war. If anything can be done to deplete morale, so be it. Nukes are pretty good at doing just that. Nothing depletes morale like watching half your homeland turn to radioactive ash. If it’s a religious focal point for the enemy, even better.


26 posted on 03/02/2012 9:33:47 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: MestaMachine
That's good. That's very good! I think you're in the lead now as the "Destroy the Kabaa Day" author. ;^)

We want total dust though. No little pieces they can glue back together with Elmer's.

27 posted on 03/02/2012 9:35:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Because we really WON’T do this, those same Moslems WILL conquer and subjugate the Earth. As Patrick Henry said, when shall we be stronger if not now?


28 posted on 03/02/2012 9:45:03 PM PST by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Williams

I Agree with this Bold Idea.

I think that If We turned Mecca and Medina into Fused Glass...

And Assinated all the Mullahs and Muftis etc.

This would go a Loooong way to getting things on the right track......


29 posted on 03/02/2012 9:47:03 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

What one can do is make a point of showing how the Islamic way of life destroys human psyche, skews morals, and destroys human lives.


30 posted on 03/02/2012 9:47:57 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jean Cauvin
They knew that the ultimate destruction of the Japanese Empire at that time was to defame their leader/god figure. By humiliating him on national television forcing him to claim to the world that he is indeed not god and that he has been defeated allowed Japan to succeed and renew in the future.

Young people really believe that history begins when they were born.
On national television? Sorry Charlie, National Television was no more in existence in Japan than it was in the U.S. in 1945. Zip, zilch, nada.

And the comparison is ludicrous from the getgo. We didn't bomb or target the Imperial Palace complex.

It's a great fantasy, though and, unless islam joins the world of civilized nations, it may still just happen in the future.

31 posted on 03/02/2012 9:54:21 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Jean Cauvin
Actually nuking Mecca was quite popular of a concept on this forum when I started in 2004 reading the posts, but was eventually abandoned for those who had the means to do it would never do it. Genocide as an official policy is apparently avoided by the government. I remember it well for it had an, Ender’s Game, quality to it which appealed to me.
32 posted on 03/02/2012 9:54:42 PM PST by dog breath
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Hit the Americans in their financial mecca and they’ll crumble, capitualte - oh, they’ll quit like the Jews did when their temple was destroyed, and the Catholics did when Rome as sacked so many times, like the followers of Jesus did when we killed Him.

Once you beat a holy people, they give up. Once you beat an evil form, it never returns.

Success by being a worse killer because the bad guys are making life a pain and providing some real suffering is not success, but the Evil One spreading deeply into the other side.

Be Christian - rise above it, stand against it, take the suffering in the turned cheek of obstinate, determined faith, hope, charity. And yes, let them laugh. Sin sows the roots of its own destruction.


33 posted on 03/02/2012 9:56:55 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Bryan24
Islam and Christianity all other world religions/Western Culture/Judeo-Christain government principles are INCOMPATIBLE.

There.
Fixed it.

34 posted on 03/02/2012 10:10:07 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Williams
Good grief!
How could I have missed the obvious?
Another DU type troll planting a "hateful, islamophobic" Free Republic post for the friends of Hussein to circulate throughout the extreme left radical blogs and forums and, eventually in the MSM.

It almost worked.

35 posted on 03/02/2012 10:17:52 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Jean Cauvin

SICK PUPPY!!!


36 posted on 03/02/2012 11:01:22 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Jean Cauvin

I am with you. Islam needs to end.


37 posted on 03/02/2012 11:25:35 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: johngrace

When we fought Germany in WW II we should not have bombed Berlin because it was holy to the Nazis. If we had left Berlin alone the war would have ended 2 years earlier. /sarc


38 posted on 03/03/2012 12:26:22 AM PST by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
If we were to do this, Muslims the world over would unleash hell on any Christian, Jew or Other in their area, causing millions to die from that genocide.

I don't believe this is true. Muslims are very simple - and very literal. That's why they do what they do. If the Kaaba was destroyed, they would believe Allah had abandoned them or was dead. They don't think like modern people - they think like people 1400 years ago. That's WHY they can enslave women and butcher non-believers and send their children to commit suicide - that's their MINDS.

Take away the Kaaba, destroy it right in their murderous faces, and they will collapse. Because to them, quite literally, there IS NO ISLAM without the Kaaba.

39 posted on 03/03/2012 12:32:50 AM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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You know you’re right, the day this happens every muslim in every country will just give up their religion. I guess for a while they will wander around with no religion. Then they will all have to become Christians and when you ask them they will say “Well, that Kaaba got destroyed, so I guess ole Muhammed was a lyin”. It’ll be great just think in Afghanistan no more Taliban, no more Al Queda. They will have no religion any more. I wonder if Amadinejad in Iran will give up nuclear weapons too because after all with no more belief in Islam, there will be no more motivation to eliminate Israel, they can become friendly with Israel. It’ll be great because they may take that Grand Mosque in Istanbul and turn it back into Saint Sofia Cathedral. I wonder what they will do with all the mosques in America when they all give up their religion, who cares, maybe bowling alleys or Chuck E Cheeses. I guess they won’t get mad at us or anything over this because after all we will logically have shown them that their religion is false and they’ll just give up so no basis for any retaliation or anger, just imagine even the Saudis who safeguard that faith will have to just drop the whole thing. It certainly does seem you have propounded the means by which we can put that entire religion out of business pronto. Thank you.

What you don't understand is that your mockery mocks your understanding of psychology. They don't need to be "angry" - they just need YOU not to be Muslim. They enslave ALL their women. They murder ALL non-believers. THAT IS ISLAM. But YOU are a tool of your own ignorant arrogance, applying your own inability to stick to any particular belief except naked survival at any cost, to a billion people who are willing to die, and slaughter, and enslave, for their belief in their idea of God. Your ignorance is staggering.

If muslims had their way they'd gut you like the pig they'd call you, unless you agreed to be a Muslim. And that's when they're in a GOOD mood.

Don't believe me? Read the Koran, fool. You can tell which book it is - it's drenched in blood.

Which is my way of saying that if the Kaaba was destroyed, these Islamic robots would seize up just as surely as if your liberal brain was forced to take responsibility for your own life.

40 posted on 03/03/2012 12:44:55 AM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Jean Cauvin
By humiliating him on national television

Japan had JBC(Japanese Broadcasting Network) during WWII? I am not even going to ask about the filler cartoons...and the commercials.
41 posted on 03/03/2012 12:48:42 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: Talisker

That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah bombed the Kaaba!”;- but they killed him bombed it not, nor crucified him destroyed it, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him destroyed it not:-
Nay, Allah raised him it up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
—Qur’an, sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 157-158[1]

There is no way that bombing the Kaaba would destroy Islam. They will simply make up a lie about it being taken into heaven.

42 posted on 03/03/2012 1:02:54 AM PST by Tramonto
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To: Jean Cauvin

By humiliating him on national television
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In August 1945 neither Japan nor the US had “national television” beaming into every home..


43 posted on 03/03/2012 1:09:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Jean Cauvin

OK.
You convinced me.
Let’s roll.


44 posted on 03/03/2012 2:01:11 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Talisker

Please to note my tagline, in place since 2007.

So glad to finally be in such fine company. Obliterate Mecca and the world’s muzzies will be left dazed, stupid and reeling. Their “allah” will in a blinding flash be proven to be a gigantic lie.

So who has the will to make this happen?


45 posted on 03/03/2012 4:40:31 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Jean Cauvin

All you’d need is one patriot citizen like Slim Pickens to ride and guide the bomb to its target...the kaaba.


46 posted on 03/03/2012 4:59:35 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Jean Cauvin
I always wondered if announcing that we had placed a Koran in the rafters of churches and other normal targets of jihadis would cool their ardor about rioting and burning.

My guess is that it would take the Mullahs about a day to issue a Fatwa that it was OK to burn Korans under those circumstances.

47 posted on 03/03/2012 5:45:23 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jean Cauvin

I need to get a t-shirt made that says “I was for bombing Mecca before bombing Mecca was cool”.


48 posted on 03/03/2012 8:53:59 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Vigilanteman

Yeah, of course that would not work. Otherwise, we could just armor our tanks and troops with Korans in the battlefield and go about our business.


49 posted on 03/03/2012 8:55:50 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Talisker

I know it’s easy to lash out at people anonymously on line, which is going to explain my ill temper in replying to you.

My point was that you have to be a friggin idiot to think destroying the religious site would eliminate the muslim religion.

However, I tried to do it with humor. You then responded by calling me a liberal.

It’s a stupid idea which won’t work and which has absolutely no basis in reality. Thank you for assuring us all that it will work, that assurance is absolutely worthless.


50 posted on 03/06/2012 2:43:54 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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