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60 Minutes does a hatchet job on the Roman Catholic Church
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57390125/the-archbishop-of-dublin-challenges-the-church/ | 4 Mar 2012 | Tim Wohlford

Posted on 03/04/2012 5:56:05 PM PST by TWohlford

An Irishman named Diarmuid Martin says the Catholic Church in Ireland has reached a breaking point, a crisis that he says results from the sexual abuse of children by priests and the cover-up by the Church. Martin has provided tens of thousands of pages of evidence against specific priests, and his words and actions carry extraordinary weight. That's because Diarmuid Martin is the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Dublin. Bob Simon reports.


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; catholic; cbs; childabuse; dublin; ireland; obama; pedophilia; romancatholic; scandal; sourcetitlenoturl
Anyone else raise their eyebrows at the timing, and ferocity, of tonight's 60 Minutes expose of Irish priest sexual misconduct?

Is this payback for the Roman Catholic opposition to the Obama birth control mandates?

Curiouser and Curiouser.

1 posted on 03/04/2012 5:56:15 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford

Stand up to Obama, the self-declared God-King, and get crushed. The time for decision is approaching fast for people who love freedom.


2 posted on 03/04/2012 6:02:53 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: TWohlford
I recall taking the time to watch a live interview by Dan Rather of soon to be Bush 41 in 1988. Bush walked out. I enjoyed that.

Anyway, that was almost the last time I watched anything on SeeBS.

THE last time was in 2001 as I waited for Rather to tell his audience that Rep Gary Condit was a Democrat.

Maybe 60 Minutes has had some good shows these past 25 years. I wouldn't know.

3 posted on 03/04/2012 6:07:57 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: TWohlford

Does it show a lack of faith to be politically active, on my knees praying for this county, and well holstered?


4 posted on 03/04/2012 6:08:09 PM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: TWohlford
I don't have a working TV right now so didn't see this. But you might be interested in reading this.

CWR: "Irish Coalition Government Divided Over Abortion"



Irish Coalition Government Divided Over Abortion | Michael Kelly | Catholic World Report


5 posted on 03/04/2012 6:10:06 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TWohlford

Diarmuid Martin is a raving liberal and now he’s trying to shift the blame. He was a Vatican bureaucrat who was consecrated bishop of a titular see in 1999, and then made coadjutor of Dublin and finally archbishop in 2004, under JPII.

He clearly does not like this current Pope, who has actually replaced a large number of the Irish episcopate. Unfortunately, I think Martin has got a number of years before his retirement.


6 posted on 03/04/2012 6:11:56 PM PST by livius
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To: TWohlford

Why do people watch that show? Their target audience buys Metamucil, Centrum Silver and Polident Dentu-Grip.


7 posted on 03/04/2012 6:15:31 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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8 posted on 03/04/2012 6:18:24 PM PST by narses
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To: TWohlford

Haven’t watched 60 minutes in years, but it is no surprise that they come to Obama’s rescue and help him attack the Catholic Faith.

Yes we are under attack.

All of Christianity is under attack, the others just haven’t realized it yet.


9 posted on 03/04/2012 6:26:20 PM PST by Venturer
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To: TWohlford

60 minutes.
democrat party.
will not investigate any other religion.
especially islam.

just another arm of the baraq army.


10 posted on 03/04/2012 6:27:02 PM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: TWohlford
Shocking. A liberal show spouts liberal viewpoint.

Shocking. Why watch it?

11 posted on 03/04/2012 6:30:24 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: TWohlford

I had the same reaction. Curious timing. Plus it’s about the 10th time 60 Minutes has hit the same story of priest sex abuse. A decade on, the media definitely sees more mileage to be gained from this story.


12 posted on 03/04/2012 6:36:14 PM PST by crusader71
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To: TWohlford

Target rich environment.


13 posted on 03/04/2012 6:37:29 PM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: TWohlford

Yes, saw the previews, thought the same thing and shut it off. They are throwing everything at us to fractre the church. The Church can not back down no matter what they say. The people are the church, and Catholics had better choose the side of the church now! If not, he wins. Good-Evil. Simple as that.


14 posted on 03/04/2012 6:40:40 PM PST by marygam ((Hurry November 2012, we might not make it))
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To: TWohlford
Even non-catholics like me can see right through this sort of nonsense. It's politically acceptable to pick on:

- Christians

- Traditional sex roles and a patriarchal society

- Capitalism

- American exceptionalism

- Our founding fathers

- The role of US military might past and present

Organizations like 60 Minutes deal in feelings and cliche. They seldom really talk about anything new, and are in the business of regurgitating trash that has some appeal to a niche audience, liberal old people. They would never run a story with the some sort of spin regards:

- Homosexuality

- Muslims

- The failure of all socialized systems and structures in America

- The abuse of power, cost and even damage caused to people by green, regenerative, sustainable, organic, holistic, recyclable, biodegradable and other scams

- The cost of divorce and poor financial planning by a baby boomer generation

They know where their bread is buttered, that simple. News isn't to get informed, it's there to reaffirm ones preconceived beliefs and value system.

15 posted on 03/04/2012 6:42:16 PM PST by Red6
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To: LdSentinal

Can someone help me understand the liberal viewpoint on something?

The liberals are shocked, as all of us are, about child abuse by priests.

The liberals love to use this issue to denigrate the Church.

However, according to studies I have seen, a majority of these “child abuse” cases are cases in which priests abused boys and young men. Meaning that these priests committed or induced homosexual acts.

Now, we know that under politically correct ideology, homosexuality is special and celebrated. However, the MSM and liberals rarely indicate that the majority of these cases are men (priests) committing abuse against children and adolescents of the same sex.

Long story short, why is the liberal view to talk about the priest sex scandals as cases of child abuse in general terms, when so many are man/boy abuse? Are the liberals not shocked about man/boy abuse, or are they trying to protect the gay community from people jumping to conclusions that too many gay men are predatory?

I know this might seem like I’m inciting something here, but I really honestly want to know how liberals look at this. The liberals celebrate the gay community, but do not want to acknowledge that many of these priests are gay. Yet they do celebrate openly gay clergymen such as Eugene Robinson of the Episcopal Church.


16 posted on 03/04/2012 6:42:22 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Jacquerie

the last time I watched anything on SeeBS.

Actually CBS is the best network on TV. NCIS, NCIS LA, CSI’s, Blue Bloods, Survivor, The Amazing Race, POI, and so many more. I just don’t watch their news organizations. Very easy to do.


17 posted on 03/04/2012 6:44:09 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: G Larry

Does it show a lack of faith to be politically active, on my knees praying for this county, and well holstered?


A thing you might enjoy.

Our priest asked us to pray today for the state of the nation (the UK, but it applies). On our feet, as men and women of pride, not on our knees as suplicants. As he said “We ask God in all humility, but we demand for our country in all righteousness.”

Guess the bishop might have some words about that, but it made me proud.

Keep praying, working and keep the faith!


18 posted on 03/04/2012 6:53:25 PM PST by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Venturer
All of Christianity is under attack, the others just haven’t realized it yet.

American "others" have always known it, that is why they always vote Republican, even in now blue California.

19 posted on 03/04/2012 7:00:52 PM PST by ansel12 (Rick Santorum Catholic “I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress,” he said)
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To: TWohlford

What is curious is the attack the messenger mentality. It was the offending priests and their enablers that produced the crisis. And the victims had a hatchet job (and worse) done on them too....by the very people who were charged with protecting them.

The Roman Catholic Church can claim no moral superiority here.


20 posted on 03/04/2012 7:21:15 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“Their target audience buys Metamucil, Centrum Silver and Polident Dentu-Grip.”

Watch it,kiddo!


21 posted on 03/04/2012 7:27:46 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Mears

Who you calling “kiddo”? I’m 41 years old and I have arthritis in both knees and I get AARP mailers in my mailbox.


22 posted on 03/04/2012 7:29:48 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Just speculation, but its probably the communists behind the homos who are just using the homos to destabilize and destroy our society. Probably something along the lines of Adolf Hitler’s use of the SA in the 1930s- its leadership was largely made up of homosexuals and when they were no longer useful Hitler purged them. The homos are useful to the left to accomplish their mission; after that, they will be sacrificed when convenient. Until then, the homos will be protected.


23 posted on 03/04/2012 7:31:10 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“I’m 41 years old “

You’re younger than my five kids,kiddo.

Oops!


24 posted on 03/04/2012 7:43:26 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: TWohlford

Right on cue from George Soros, the White Hut, Bill Ayers and all the others monstrosities we’re up against. I say ignore them. They aren’t worth the notice. They have ZERO crediblity.


25 posted on 03/04/2012 7:48:02 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: GenXteacher

It’s becoming clear. The strategy is this. Radicalize the homosexuals, who are unbalanced and so make this easy. Reward them with recognition for becoming the frontline in the culture wars. Destroy the family and the church and erase all freedoms with the Radical Queers leading the charge. It’s brilliant really. I see the bisexual Bill Ayers behind this, as well as George Soros. Why else would he hire David Crock? Sandra Slut Fluke, an obvious Lesbian, is part of this strategy. But now that we know what it is. We have to fight fire with fire. Call them out on every point. Fight back in every venue. This is WAR! The enemey must be not just defeated by annihilated.


26 posted on 03/04/2012 7:51:18 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Something around 40+ percent of all total abuse cases are committed by those known to be homosexual. This includes laypeople, not priests. Men and women.

If their proponderance in the general population is the same as in the general population at 2 percent of men, what does that mean for the incidence ratio?

It’s also not uniform. Law, Weakland, Mahoney and Hunthausen saw about 80 percent of all the cases in the US. Hunthausen was so bad that Pope John Paul removed him in ‘86 and put Weurl in.

The numbers in the diocese of Seattle are just shocking, they had the most in all the US, something around 2x anywhere else, including Los Angeles.


27 posted on 03/04/2012 7:56:06 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

Some 30 to 50% of seminarians are homosexuals so what else would be expected except predation on the flock?


28 posted on 03/04/2012 9:20:21 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Bryanw92

Crushed? Hardly - I don’t think you’ve heard the last of the Catholic Church...or other churches who clearly can see where this will lead if not reversed.


29 posted on 03/04/2012 10:04:03 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: count-your-change

The offending priests are mostly homosexuals.If the Church is at fault, it is that they tolerated what the Church always condemned until the 1970s, and aimed, like the Boy Scouts, to weed out the “nervous” seminarians. Then came the crisis, when so many of the clergy turned away from the pope when he issued “Humanae Vitae,” the verdict against changing the Church’s policy toward contraceptions, which really was an indictment of the whole sexual revolution and a prediction of the devastating consequences if society accepted it. Many priests who thought that the Church owed them a wife and who had been assured for years that the Church was about to abandon the celibacy requirement, jumped ship. However, this was only a part of it. It was a revolt against Rome and the episcopate. With ranks repleted, the Church did what the Army did during the ‘70s. They accepted inferior men and went easy on the inferior men already in their ranks. Entire seminaries soon were “Pink,” and men who rejected advances or seemed otherwise too orthodox were weeded out. Much the same was going on outside.The liberals and their gay allies were much puffed up. The accession of John Paul II slowed but did not rule back the tide, at least quickly. The whirlwind was reaped when the priest scandal broke.


30 posted on 03/04/2012 10:10:39 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: count-your-change

Which explains why some areas had much worse problems than others?

Look at the numbers yourself. You’ll see what I’m saying.


31 posted on 03/04/2012 10:40:42 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: Texas resident

....And why not? Sarc.


32 posted on 03/05/2012 2:51:22 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: count-your-change
Some 30 to 50% of seminarians are homosexuals

I don't know where you're getting that number from, but I suspect it's much lower now than it was from 1965-1985.

Of course it's hard to construct an infallible test to detect homosexual tendencies. But Rome has said over and over that males with strong/predominant homosexual tendencies, even if they are living chastely, are not suitable for priestly ordination.

33 posted on 03/05/2012 5:09:12 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: TWohlford

OH Dear I am glad I didn’t watch it LOL!

Is Catcher Mitt Mike Wallace still there LOL!


34 posted on 03/05/2012 1:01:15 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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