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Scripture Alone by Sebastian R. Fama One of the pillars of the Protestant Reformation is the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura," or "Scripture alone." The reformers taught that the Bible was the sole rule of faith, and that there was no need for an authoritative church. Now if this were a true teaching, as some still contend, we would expect to find it in the Bible, but we don't. The verse usually used to justify Sola Scriptura is 2 Timothy 3:16: "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." Note that this passage nowhere says that Scripture is the sole rule of faith. It says that it is profitable, and that is true. But that doesn’t make it the sole rule of faith. It says that it can make you complete, and that is also true. However, in order for Scripture to make us complete, we must accept all that it teaches. And Scripture teaches that Christ established an authoritative church. That is why Paul tells Titus, who headed the church at Crete, to "Exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you" (Titus 2:15). Indeed an authoritative church is necessary in light of 2 Peter 1:20: "You must understand this, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation." So Scripture makes us complete by showing us that we need it and that we need the Church to teach us what it means. Only a church whose teachings are authoritative and unchanging can qualify as "The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth" (1 Timothy 3:15). Cardinal Newman noted some years ago that 2 Timothy could not support the doctrine of Sola Scriptura because Paul's statement to Timothy would have to apply to him at that time. At that time there was only an Old Testament. If 2 Timothy were true in the sense that Bible Christians claim it is, it would rule out the New Testament, something that no Bible believing Christian would ever do.

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2 posted on 03/07/2012 9:11:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

You’ve given me something to think about salvation. Thank you for not abandoning me. I still feel as I do about Islam though. That won’t ever change. It can’t.


3 posted on 03/07/2012 9:31:55 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Salvation

OH! SCRIPTURE ALONE! SCRIPTURE NEVER WAS ALONE, AND SCRIPTURE NEVER CAN BE ALONE!

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made.” (John 1:1-3)

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.” (John 1:14)


6 posted on 03/08/2012 2:42:33 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: Salvation
Great post.
The Protestants I know haven't any clue that they ARE "Sola Scripture," but they wouldn't dream of coverting because Protestantism is so easy: no Sunday/holy day oblgation, no confession, no Lenten rules of fast/abstinence. Catholicism is the tougher path as it asks its Christians to actually DO.
One friend says that all she has to do is "be nice." She has no answer/recourse for any sins she commits, just "be nice." That'll do her.
8 posted on 03/08/2012 7:58:06 AM PST by cloudmountain
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