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To: count-your-change
Speaking in tongues is of no importance to the mature Christian church.

I guess you and Jimmy Carter agree that The Apostle Paul didn't know what he was talking about and you know more about Spiritual truths than Paul did.

Perhaps if you glue the Scriptures below that you seem to have torn out, God will forgive your tearing them out of the Bible.

Obviously, Paul was wrong, per your sensibilities, when Pauls wrote IN SCRIPTURE:

I Cor 12:
11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as He will.

21And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

22Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:

23And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.

24For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.

I Cor 12:28:
28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues I Cor 14:
2For he that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men, but unto God: for no man understands him; howbeit in the spirit he speaks mysteries.


{OH DEAR! what childishness! . . . evidently--according to count-your-change}

I Cor 14:
4He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; . . .


{OH DEAR! Can't have that! What childishness to have Holy Spirit edifying one's self while praying in tongues! Off with their heads for being sooooooo childish! Harumph!}

I Cor 14: 15What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.


{OH DEAR! Tear ALL Paul's letters out of the New Testament. He was OBVIOUSLY tooooo childish and immature to have written Scripture! /sarc}

18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:


{OH DEAR! MORE evidence--Tear ALL Paul's letters out of the New Testament. He was OBVIOUSLY tooooo childish and immature to have written Scripture! /sarc}

39Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.


{OH DEAR! MORE evidence--Clearly Paul was simply toooo childish to know a living thing about Christianity! Tear ALL Paul's letters out of the New Testament. He was OBVIOUSLY tooooo childish and immature to have written Scripture! /sarc}

35 posted on 03/09/2012 6:40:10 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Perhaps if you changed the fonts and colours some more it would help your understanding or toss in some of the famous pictures but the comments about tearing pages out of the Bible and attempts at ridicule won't.
42 posted on 03/09/2012 7:28:30 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Quix; count-your-change; metmom
I wonder why the need to post this thread in an OPEN Religion Forum if no one is allowed to post opposing views without the sarcasm, derision, accusations of ignorance and doubt as to ones fidelity to the Word of God? Wasn't this the VERY reason that last thread was closed?

Really, Quix, you post a vanity thread, threaten with your scorn and then prematurely presume everyone who fails to see the Quixicated world view is "unbiblical", "irrational", "thrashers of Holy Spirit's works" and overall incapable of seeing the powerful hand of Almighty God at work in the world to convict the world of sin, righteousness and judgment. Why try it all over again if you start out on the SAME exact footing? Wouldn't you be better off posting this to another site where Scriptural views are stated to everyone who believes the same things?

You defend what you call the gift of the Holy Spirit of "speaking in tongues", so, other than the few anecdotes of friends of friends or someone long ago who did demonstrate the legitimate gift - though you weren't there and only heard it second or third hand - have YOU ever exhibited the ability to tell the Gospel to a person who didn't speak your language? When you worked in China, did you ever suddenly gain the ability to speak Chinese to someone who wanted to learn of Jesus Christ? Is the only experience you have with this "gift" the internal, benefiting yourself, edifying yourself kind?

I'm definitely NOT interested in the same game as last time as these are serious questions - just as last time from me. Can you, will you, be able to discuss this subject with other Christians in a respectful and dignified way? Or is it always going to be a matter of you "defending" the Holy Spirit's honor against heretics? If the latter is the case, then you may want to desist in posting these kinds of threads because all it seems to do is bring out the fangs and cause dissension, not to mention the bruised relationships.

80 posted on 03/10/2012 9:04:58 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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