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Look Who’s Talking at the 2012 ELCA Youth Gathering
Exposing the ELCA ^ | 3/15/12 | Dan Skogen

Posted on 03/16/2012 3:18:54 PM PDT by rhema

ELCA pastor, the Rev. Andrena Ingram, will be a keynote speaker at the 2012 ELCA Youth Gathering. (see here)

This is the same Rev. Ingram who recently wrote:

“This is my body, given for you. … this is a condom, given for you. Use it!” (read here)

First, what a disgusting and irreverent use of God’s words. That is unacceptable. Secondly, as you can read, this ELCA leader is big on condom use. So much so that she passed out condoms during a HIV Testing Event/“community meal” held at her church. She writes that she, “Went inside our hall, found a cute little african basket and filled it with condoms . . . and proceeded to place them on each table (about 7 of them), as people were eating.”

Rev. Ingram also said, “I am not going to get into the ‘religious right’ about having sexual relations. Of course I would hope that you are in a committed relationship, and even then, that both of you have been tested every six months for at least a year, before you trust yourselves with each other’s bodies without a condom.” (read here)

So this pastor, who was chosen by ELCA leadership to speak to our youth at the 2012 ELCA Youth Gathering, passes out condoms within her church (with the intention to continuing this practice), mocks the words of Christ and does not hold or advocate that sex be reserved for those who are married.

Jesus said, "And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.” - Mark 9:42

If you know of a group attending the 2012 ELCA Youth Gathering, and a church supporting our young people hearing from leaders such as this, I think it’s time you communicate your concern.

"‘This is my body, given for you?’ Condoms?…” - Rev. Andrena Ingram, keynote speaker for the 2012 ELCA Youth Gathering.

TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: elca; homosexualagenda; ingram; moralabsolutes

1 posted on 03/16/2012 3:19:08 PM PDT by rhema
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To: lightman; SmithL; Honorary Serb; hinckley buzzard
Another "pastor" nominates herself for Martin Luther's Hall of Shame.

"There is no more terrible plague, misfortune or cause for distress upon earth than a preacher who does not preach God's Word; of whom, alas, the world today is full, and yet they think they are pious and do good when indeed their whole work is nothing but murdering souls, blaspheming God and setting up idolatry, so that it would be much better for them if they were robbers, murderers, and the worst scoundrels, for then they would know that they are doing wickedly. But now they go along under spiritual names and show . . . and are at the same time ravening wolves in sheeps' clothing, and it would be well if no one ever heard their preaching."
Christmas Day Sermon [Sermons of Martin Luther, Volume 1: Sermons on Gospel Texts for Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany]

2 posted on 03/16/2012 3:22:43 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

Her jest savors but a shallow wit when more weep than did laugh at it. Stolen from Shakespeare.

3 posted on 03/16/2012 3:29:28 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Wonderful quote but, ‘twould fly over the ken of the ELCA masses!

4 posted on 03/16/2012 3:34:47 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Androgenous Ingram

5 posted on 03/16/2012 3:40:34 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: rhema
Thank God that judgment begins at the pulpit.

I Peter 4:17 “For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?” Judgment begins at the pulpit first, and with every word spoken from that pulpit.

6 posted on 03/16/2012 4:03:53 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks rhema.
7 posted on 03/16/2012 4:05:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: rhema
One more illustration of the weird sh*t that happens when the "powers and principalities" gain the upper hand, and the Holy Spirit gets His hat and leaves. Maybe she was inspired by the Springfield Mass school board. It sure wasn't the Lord.
8 posted on 03/16/2012 4:59:04 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...

Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Keep a Good Lent!

9 posted on 03/16/2012 6:15:50 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yet another anecdotal evidence of the problems that arise when you stray from the biblical requirements of pastors.

10 posted on 03/16/2012 6:15:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: rhema

As of today I am out of Babylon for one year and 15 days...wary that looking back might do unto me as what befell Lot’s wife.

11 posted on 03/16/2012 6:18:28 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Have you been to a service in a church that is part of the North American Lutheran Church? I’ve been to one, in Kirkland, IL. On Easter, I’ll attend the first service of a NALC church, in Lombard.

12 posted on 03/16/2012 6:48:54 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: ApplegateRanch

Well, it’s a fake pulpit, with a fake minister. I’m sure there is plenty of provision for horrible judgement on this reprobate, but I don’t think it’s the judgement for ministers.

13 posted on 03/16/2012 6:51:59 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: rhema

There is another keynote speaker, who, to me, is even more troubling:

From the ALBP Forum, post by Donna Smith

I am very alarmed that the Rev. Nadia Bolz-Weber will be the keynote speaker for the ELCA National Youth Gathering this summer. Here is one reason why:

The person in question relates her/his experiences in a piece written for the Fund for Theological Education here:

(Very distressing as I was a fellow of the Fund for Thelogical Education myself.)

And the reason I found this is that it was featured on the “Exposing the ELCA” blog.

Here is the liturgical rite:

Here is the rite we used at Baptism of our Lord Sunday when a transgender member of House for All Sinners and Saints was undergoing a name change. This is largely taken from a rite shared with me by Episcopal priest, Michele Morgan

One really lovely thing about this day was that Asher made a little shrine to his previously female self, Mary. It included the whole name lovingly written out, several photos and a candle.

(Prayers of the People)


Holy One of Blessing, in baptism you bring us to new life in
Jesus Christ and you name us Beloved. We give you thanks for the renewalof that life and love in Mary Christine Callahan, who now takes on a new name.

Strengthen and uphold him as he grows in power, and authority, and meaning of this name: we pray in the Name above names, Jesus, your Son, whom with you and the Holy Spirit, the Triune God, we adore. Amen

(Lindsey) A reading from the letter of Paul to the Galatians.

There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all are one in Christ Jesus

The word of the Lord

Thanks be to God

Laying on of hands)

Let us pray:

We pray for your servant Asher, with thanks for the journey and awakening that you have brought him to this moment, for his place amongst your people, and for his gifts and calling to serve you.

O God, in renaming your servants Abraham, Sarah, Jacob, Peter,and Paul, you gave them new lives and new tasks, new love and new hope.

We now hold before you our companion. Bless him with a new measure of grace as he takes this new name. Write him again in your heart and on your palm. And grant that we all be worthy to call ourselves Christians, for the sake of your Christ whose name is Love, and in whom,
with you and the Spirit, we pray. Amen

The Giving of the name

Pr. Nadia: By what name shall you be known?

Kate: The name shall be Asher

Asher: My name is Asher

The community may respond by repeating

Your name shall be Asher

Pr. Nadia: Bear this name in the Name of Christ. Share it in the name of Mercy. Offer it

in the name of Justice.

Christ is among us making peace right here right now. The peace of Christ be with you all. And also with you.

14 posted on 03/16/2012 7:04:31 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: fwdude

Fake or not, for every one that she leads astray, she will be judged.

Just as “Jeroboam, who caused israel to sin...,” faced wrath for each he caused to worship the golden calves in Israel. Doesn’t mean the led get a pass, but that’s a double portion for the leader.

15 posted on 03/16/2012 7:24:36 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch
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To: lightman; rhema
The favored face of the ELCA:

Rev. Nadia Bolz-Weber.

Kyrie Eleison.

16 posted on 03/16/2012 7:34:50 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: rhema


Also what about this passage:

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.”

17 posted on 03/16/2012 8:36:54 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: rhema

guys, please sue them for abusing the term “Lutheran”

18 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:33 PM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: PhilCollins; bcsco

No and not interested until IF/WHEN they renounce female pastors as well as other weaknesses they teach regarding the Office.

19 posted on 03/17/2012 8:35:26 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; PhilCollins

Will spend Easter, as usual, at home in our LCMS.

20 posted on 03/17/2012 9:55:43 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: SunkenCiv; hinckley buzzard; Honorary Serb; lightman; SmithL; Cronos; ReformationFan; ...
Maybe (ELCA) St. Olaf College will invite her to preside at its next Condom Olympics: "Back by popular demand, the Wellness Center is hosting a team-based competition that tests students’ knowledge of sexual health, reproductive anatomy, and STI statistics. It all culminates in an intense relay race to properly put on a condom while wearing ‘beer goggles.’ Come and bring your friends!"

Wonder if the "Wellness" Committee has created a special competition division for professors/campus pastors/college president/dean of students/board of trustees, etc.

And who needs "beer goggles," anyway, when the ELCA hierarchy is distributing free Thyatira goggles to all its followers?

21 posted on 03/21/2012 2:40:03 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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