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The Bible - an absolutely amazing book
Voice of the Martyrs ^ | March 2012 | Tom White

Posted on 03/16/2012 4:33:53 PM PDT by Country Gal

I'm reading my monthly publication of "The Voice of the Martyrs" and am just amazed and stunned by the power an impact of the Holy Bible.

I'm reading a story of how someone named Mozafar, who was a devout Muslim, had been commanded by his mullah (Islamic leader) to read the Bible so that he could write an argument against it to defeat the Christians. Upon reading the book of Matthew, he was stunned by the mercy and grace of Jesus. He went to a hotel room to read more without interruption. He became a Christian.

The message of the Gospel is spreading throughout China in the underground churches. Often there is one Bible for several hundred people. My friend helps to smuggle more in, but it's impossible to meet the need as Christianity is growing so rapidly.

It's an absolutely powerful book. Thank you, Lord, for your Word, your Truth, your Guide. It's the only book that, upon opening, the author appears.


TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: bible; persecutedchurch; scripture

1 posted on 03/16/2012 4:34:09 PM PDT by Country Gal
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To: Country Gal

Thanks for the heads-up, Country Gal - I haven’t cracked open this month’s VOM yet, but will tonight, fer sure.


2 posted on 03/16/2012 4:39:47 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

I love reading their testimonies! We just don’t know how blessed we are!

Thank you, Lord, for giving us Your Word. Forgive us for not appreciating as much as we should!


3 posted on 03/16/2012 4:42:58 PM PDT by Country Gal
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To: Country Gal
"It's an absolutely powerful book. Thank you, Lord, for your Word, your Truth, your Guide."

Amen!

"It's the only book that, upon opening, the author appears."

It's also the only book that while you read it,it reads you! (Hebrews 4:12)

4 posted on 03/16/2012 4:48:32 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Country Gal

Then there is the story of Josh McDowell who set out to debunk Christianity back in the 60s. The more he researched the history and the culture of Jesus’ time, the more he concluded that Jesus MUST have been a) historical b) completely dead and c) could not have had His body stolen as some had claimed. Faced with this, he had to conclude Jesus must have been the Son of God and accepted Him as the Savior. His book on that process, “Evidence That Demands a Verdict” is one of the best-selling Christian books of all time and a great tool for evangelizing the “prove it to me” crowd. The ones who approach it with an open mind and an open heart become convinced.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 4:56:34 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Country Gal
"I'm reading my monthly publication of "The Voice of the Martyrs" and am just amazed and stunned by the power an impact of the Holy Bible."

The stories are inspiring, but that publication generally ignores atrocities perpetrated upon Catholics. A comparison of VoMs coverage of the anti-Christian bombings in Nigeria compared to the entirety of the bombings in a simple internet search is pretty damning of their anti-Catholic bias.

6 posted on 03/16/2012 5:02:06 PM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: Natural Law

I understand your concerns. I was really just hoping for a forum celebrating how great the Bible is, and sharing stories. I know there are a lot of atrocities that they don’t cover. There are just a lot of them all over the world right now.


7 posted on 03/16/2012 5:12:59 PM PDT by Country Gal
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To: Natural Law

That I did not know. I sometimes donate.


8 posted on 03/16/2012 5:55:23 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

They do incredible work and risk their lives to help the persecuted church.

I love the story of the man speaking to a group of Muslim women and telling the story of the adulterous woman. When he tells them that Jesus showed her grace and prevented her from being stoned, they were amazed.

It must be incredibly hard to be a part of the underground church in these areas. I deeply admire their courage.


9 posted on 03/16/2012 6:13:02 PM PDT by Country Gal
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To: Country Gal

I, too, love testimonies of converted muslims. I support several ministries which evangelize muslims by printed page, specific websites, satellite broadcasts, etc., and it is marvellous the various ways these people come to Christ.

Many of them have direct visitations by Christ Himself, or in dreams, instructing them what to do, where to go, or whom to ask. All they need is a sincere hunger to know the TRUTH, and God leads them to it, by truly miraculous ways.

I think it was either George Washington or Abe Lincoln who said that the Holy Bible is the greatest gift God gave to mankind......other than our Saviour.....which goes without saying, of course.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 6:17:57 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Tucker39

“Many of them have direct visitations by Christ Himself, or in dreams, instructing them what to do, where to go, or whom to ask. All they need is a sincere hunger to know the TRUTH, and God leads them to it, by truly miraculous ways.”

I’ve heard of this happening! God won’t deny His truth to anyone sincerely wanting to know it.

I’ve heard it said recently by someone involved with the persecuted church that the Middle East is more receptive to the Gospel than America is right now. Incredible!


11 posted on 03/16/2012 6:25:23 PM PDT by Country Gal (John 3:16 - it really is that simple!)
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To: Tucker39; Country Gal

The Holy Spirit is more powerful than a person; if God intends to save a person, then most certainly he will.

Romans 10

“13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

From Henry’s commentary:

“(God) shows that the word preached is the ordinary means of working faith (Rom. 10:17): So then, ara—however; though many that hear do not believe, yet those that believe have first heard. Faith cometh by hearing. It is the summary of what he had said before, Rom. 10:14. The beginning, progress, and strength of faith, are by hearing. The word of God is therefore called the word of faith: it begets and nourishes faith. God gives faith, but it is by the word as the instrument. Hearing (that hearing which works faith) is by the word of God. It is not hearing the enticing words of man’s wisdom, but hearing the word of God, that will befriend faith, and hearing it as the word of God.”

At this point he references a pertinent verse from

1 Thessalonians 2

“13 And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is indeed at work in you who believe.”


12 posted on 03/16/2012 6:42:26 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Country Gal

“Forgive” . . . now THAT is a word completely foreign to Muslims.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 7:02:57 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: PieterCasparzen; Country Gal; Tucker39
So many of us are afraid to preach The Gospel, for we don't think that we will be good enough at it. Happily, The Bible says that it pleases The LORD to save by the foolishness of preaching. The LORD sees our hearts as we preach and the heart of the one being preached to, and although we may not be too good at preaching, it is He who saves. We can preach in confidence, knowing that The LORD will use our foolish preaching, and that His Word does not come back void from where He sends it.

1Cr 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

14 posted on 03/16/2012 11:32:03 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Country Gal
It's an absolutely powerful book. Thank you, Lord, for your Word, your Truth, your Guide. It's the only book that, upon opening, the author appears.

Amen!

The Lord's Word is the single, unique object here on earth that provides union with our hearts and minds to the Lord and the heavens. Reading and meditating on His Word while looking to the Lord and trusting His voice allows us to be led in all Good and Truth.

The Gospels provide testimony to the ultimate Christian Life that we can receive by taking up our cross and following Jesus. May the Light of Truth shine forth for all to see. May God Bless all those who are persecuted for their beliefs. I'm afraid after the Arab spring, things will become worse before it gets better.

This year, our Church has started using Google+ hangouts to facilitate online small video groups with participants from all over the world. I'm in several and all are very exciting and spiritually fulfilling. We use Facebook to organize these.

Our Services and weekly Bible study are available on UStream which I've viewed on my Android phone. At some point, technology will overtake these totalitarian countries and the Truth will be available, I pray.

15 posted on 03/17/2012 7:35:57 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith
The Bible - an absolutely amazing book

If you want to see just how amazing it is, read the sacred writings of almost any other religion or even the Book of Mormon.
16 posted on 03/17/2012 7:48:25 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: DaveMSmith

What is your Church’s Facebook page? What is the URL from the streaming video?


17 posted on 03/17/2012 8:17:56 AM PDT by Country Gal (John 3:16 - it really is that simple!)
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To: Country Gal
New Church Journey is the Facebook co-ordination page for the online groups.

Swedenborgians Everywhere is a good starting place for general info. You can also search on 'New Church' to find local congregations. The Episcopal seat is Bryn Athyn Cathedral on Facebook and Bryn Athyn Service is the Worship Services broadcast on UStream. Nunc Licet Bible Study is the Wednesday Bible Study.

The Heaven and Hell community page, is the most popular of Swedenborg's works. I'm thinking of starting a weekly discussion group to based on that page.

18 posted on 03/17/2012 9:16:22 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Country Gal
We started giving to the Egyptian Bible society last year in the wake of the Muslim Brotherhood takeover.

We figured the Bible is the best witness in such a dark time. These people go to bookshows and set up christian stands featuring the Bible and have a lot of success.

We plan on continuing our support for the foreseeable future. You're right...the Bible is IT!

19 posted on 03/17/2012 11:12:43 AM PDT by what's up
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To: DaveMSmith

Thanks - I’ll check it all out. Thanks for what you and your church are doing to help our fellow Christians.


20 posted on 03/17/2012 11:17:24 AM PDT by Country Gal (John 3:16 - it really is that simple!)
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To: what's up

That takes a great deal of courage. Do they have a website?


21 posted on 03/17/2012 11:19:20 AM PDT by Country Gal (John 3:16 - it really is that simple!)
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To: Country Gal
Yes they do:

http://www.rebuild-egypt.org/

We send our checks to a US address, but I believe you can donate online as well which we may start to do at some point.

22 posted on 03/17/2012 11:35:01 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Country Gal
Catholic Scripture Study Bible - RSV Large Print Edition


"We are compelled to concede to the Papists
that they have the Word of God,
that we received it from them,
and that without them
we should have no knowledge of it at all."

~ Martin Luther



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23 posted on 03/17/2012 11:44:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: what's up

Will definitely check it out! Thanks so much!


24 posted on 03/17/2012 11:52:02 AM PDT by Country Gal (John 3:16 - it really is that simple!)
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To: Country Gal

I would like to keep the spirit of this forum on how wonderful and life changing the Holy Bible is.

Religious threads on this site so often become contentious and ugly. Please do not descend into discussions about denominations. Let’s unite on what we as Christians so dearly love, which are the Scriptures.

Peace to you all!


25 posted on 03/17/2012 11:54:56 AM PDT by Country Gal (John 3:16 - it really is that simple!)
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To: Country Gal

You’re welcome.


26 posted on 03/17/2012 12:13:55 PM PDT by what's up
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To: aruanan; CountryGirl; All
"If you want to see just how amazing it is, read the sacred writings of almost any other religion or even the Book of Mormon."

At Country Girl's request, I won't inject my personal feelings about any one else's inspired texts. I will say that I believe in many paths to the Lord's Truth -- and, I respect many religions and denominations.

That said, our Bible Study read the following chapter this week and I find it relevant here:

Ezekiel 34:1 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 "Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord God to the shepherds: "Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks? 3 You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool; you slaughter the fatlings, but you do not feed the flock. 4 The weak you have not strengthened, nor have you healed those who were sick, nor bound up the broken, nor brought back what was driven away, nor sought what was lost; but with force and cruelty you have ruled them. 5 So they were scattered because there was no shepherd; and they became food for all the beasts of the field when they were scattered. 6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and on every high hill; yes, My flock was scattered over the whole face of the earth, and no one was seeking or searching for them." 7 'Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: 8 "as I live," says the Lord God, "surely because My flock became a prey, and My flock became food for every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, nor did My shepherds search for My flock, but the shepherds fed themselves and did not feed My flock"-- 9 therefore, O shepherds, hear the word of the Lord! 10 Thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will require My flock at their hand; I will cause them to cease feeding the sheep, and the shepherds shall feed themselves no more; for I will deliver My flock from their mouths, that they may no longer be food for them." 11 'For thus says the Lord God: "Indeed I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out. 12 As a shepherd seeks out his flock on the day he is among his scattered sheep, so will I seek out My sheep and deliver them from all the places where they were scattered on a cloudy and dark day. 13 And I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land; I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, in the valleys and in all the inhabited places of the country. 14 I will feed them in good pasture, and their fold shall be on the high mountains of Israel. There they shall lie down in a good fold and feed in rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15 I will feed My flock, and I will make them lie down," says the Lord God. 16 I will seek what was lost and bring back what was driven away, bind up the broken and strengthen what was sick; but I will destroy the fat and the strong, and feed them in judgment." 17 'And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I shall judge between sheep and sheep, between rams and goats. 18 Is it too little for you to have eaten up the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the residue of your pasture--and to have drunk of the clear waters, that you must foul the residue with your feet? 19 And as for My flock, they eat what you have trampled with your feet, and they drink what you have fouled with your feet." 20 'Therefore thus says the Lord God to them: "Behold, I Myself will judge between the fat and the lean sheep. 21 Because you have pushed with side and shoulder, butted all the weak ones with your horns, and scattered them abroad, 22 therefore I will save My flock, and they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep. 23 I will establish one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them--My servant David. He shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24 And I, the Lord, will be their God, and My servant David a prince among them; I, the Lord, have spoken. 25 "I will make a covenant of peace with them, and cause wild beasts to cease from the land; and they will dwell safely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods. 26 I will make them and the places all around My hill a blessing; and I will cause showers to come down in their season; there shall be showers of blessing. 27 Then the trees of the field shall yield their fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase. They shall be safe in their land; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I have broken the bands of their yoke and delivered them from the hand of those who enslaved them. 28 And they shall no longer be a prey for the nations, nor shall beasts of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and no one shall make them afraid. 29 I will raise up for them a garden of renown, and they shall no longer be consumed with hunger in the land, nor bear the shame of the Gentiles anymore. 30 Thus they shall know that I, the Lord their God, am with them, and they, the house of Israel, are My people," says the Lord God.' " 31 You are My flock, the flock of My pasture; you are men, and I am your God," says the Lord God.

It was brought up that the the divisions in families, communities, country and the world are because the 'flock' has been scattered. Our own party's primary shows this clearly -- only one is talking about faith and he is being derided at every turn

I don't have respect for people -- religious or otherwise -- that try to divide by whatever means to obtain power and control... making themselves into cult figures who are to be worshiped (remember how King Saul ended?). Too many present their 'opinions' as absolute truth when it is indeed falsity. These false idols fall and the flock scatters.

Who is gathering folks together in love and mercy? Where is the Love that Jesus taught us in the Gospels? Where is the respect for another's beliefs and rational mind? With that, comes spiritual freedom.

There are many in this world willing to DIE for their religious beliefs. The line is drawn when you kill others for not believing the same. And as Jesus said Matthew 5 21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

27 posted on 03/17/2012 1:31:51 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith; CountryGirl; Elsie
At Country Girl's request, I won't inject my personal feelings about any one else's inspired texts. I will say that I believe in many paths to the Lord's Truth -- and, I respect many religions and denominations.

Remember what Paul said? He said that if someone preaches another (heteros) gospel that is not an other (allos) gospel, let him be anathema.
"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another (heteros) gospel: Which is not another (allos); but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."
--Galatians 1
These are the words Paul used to make the distinction: allos, meaning another of the same kind, like two loaves of whole wheat bread. Heteros, meaning another of a different kind, that is, another that doesn't share the same inherent characteristics, like the difference between a loaf of whole wheat bread and something that looks like a loaf of whole wheat bread but is actually a stage prop made of expertly painted styrofoam.

This is where the word "heterodoxy" comes from to refer to a teaching that is, beyond superficial characteristics, inherently something else. The Book of Mormon Jesus and the New Testament Jesus are examples of this. They share superficial characteristics but inherently, according to the teachings of the respective groups, are entirely different beings in the same way that the Jesus of the Watchtower is an entirely different being than the Jesus of the New Testament.
28 posted on 03/17/2012 1:48:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Natural Law
"....pretty damning of their anti-Catholic bias."

Oh puleeze.
Roman Catholic publications may give short shrift to Evangelicals - we're not crying about it.

29 posted on 03/17/2012 3:09:04 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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