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Oregon Sets New Record For Assisted Suicides
Christian Diarist ^ | March 16, 2012 | JP

Posted on 03/16/2012 6:17:40 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

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Note GeronL's comment:

It ain’t “suicide” if someone else is involved.

Exactly so. Encouraging, enable and "assisting" people to kill themselves is being an accessory to murder.

21 posted on 03/17/2012 9:40:06 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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22 posted on 03/17/2012 9:45:10 AM PDT by narses
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If anyone wants to kill themselves nothing and no one can stop them. Suicide has occurred since the beginning of time. Roping in the medical profession is gravely wrong and inevitably leads to “suicide” that was not requested, as is common in the Netherlands and Belgium. Now they’re offing children, the mentally ill, and the elderly - people who have NOT asked to die. If a terminally ill person is ready to die, all they have to do is stop eating and drinking, which occurs normally as a person’s body shuts down.

There are plenty of pain medications that can ease pain, it’s called “comfort care”. I’m sure that there are some available even for people with allergies.

Get the government and medical profession as far away as possible from the “killing people” business, whether it’s at the beginning of life or at the end. BTW I watched my mother die from cancer too, she was under the care of hospice and died at home. It was of course not ultra pleasant but she was well taken care of. That’s life. There is no getting around a certain amount of pain, happens all throughout life for some of us.

If anyone wants to kill themselvse, it’s their business. But it should not be the job of the medical profession or government to take a hand in the killing business, other than court ordered executions.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 9:47:22 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah

Excellent post lj!


24 posted on 03/17/2012 9:58:11 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I have witnessed a number of deaths, or knew the people well. A couple of pretty good friends died in their 50s, mostly of cancer, a good friend died last year from Hep C liver failure, he was 60.

I’ve also volunteered for a hospice. I’ve studied up on the topic, and it’s natural that as people near the end of their earthly sojourn, the body starts to shut down (that is if they aren’t dying from an accident or some ailment or condition that happens quite fast), and the need for food and water diminishes; they lose their hunger and then thirst. It’s nature’s way of easing their departure. Of course someone who still wants to eat and drink should NEVER EVER be encouraged or pressured or prevented from taking nutrition!!!!

In my mother’s case, I tempted her with easy to eat foods and drinks I knew she liked, like mashed potates, corn bread, and hot ovaltine. Her appetite just naturally got less and less until she would only take a couple of sips or bites and didn’t want any more.

The hospice nurses came more frequently towards the end of her mortal life and helped in many ways.

There are so many reasons why it is best to let nature take its course, but for this particular angle - doctors assisted “suicide” - the inevitable result of murder of the “unfit” is paramount. In Germany in the 30s the first killings were “mercy” killings of those whose lives were not worthy - after all, who would want to be disabled, mentally retarted, in pain, and so on? That’s how it starts. Ends in the ovens and ravines.


25 posted on 03/17/2012 10:07:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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Hmmmm...wonder how many voted absentee before they offed themselves.


26 posted on 03/17/2012 11:27:16 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: little jeremiah

I agree. Dr’s should not be forced or put in the equasion. The government should not be placed in the equasion either.
We had no, repeat NO option/say as far as IV drip and what was placed in her body during her last days. She was located in a hospice, not run by the city/county/state/fed gov. It was a privately run facility. We had no options as to where she went. I would not ask any person whom I knew had a moral compunction to ending the suffering.
I would wish no one to have their last time on earth to suffer. When I spoke of this to others, some told me this is natural/normal and it happens this way for some, for whatever reason. My response usually,was that I believe that god in heaven would not want any of his children to suffer. And I know I certainly don’t want any human to suffer like that.
Now back to the story.......
What would you do? Hypothetically.
Or we can drop the subject and wait until the next human gets to experience what my mother went through. And the aftermath/debate on end of life issues.
Off to church. Good day Friend


27 posted on 03/18/2012 7:52:51 AM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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Get the government and medical profession as far away as possible from the “killing people” business...

My mother in law died from cancer 15 years ago. Mercifully, she had just a couple days at the very end which were tough. I gave her what was to be her final dose of morphine early one morning and she slipped away while everyone else was sleeping.

Now, after experiencing that I still voted against the "death with dignity" law. I am particularly against government being involved in that decision but I'm sure that before the law, such events were quietly arranged. I would be happy to have left it at that. The law codifies a practice best left out of the sphere of public/government influence.

28 posted on 03/18/2012 9:41:26 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

They are being tormented by the dragon now and will be until eternity. Do not kill says the commandment.


29 posted on 03/18/2012 11:56:11 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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I thought hospice was supposed to administer morphine


30 posted on 03/18/2012 11:57:55 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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