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Mitt Romney's Mormonism and Freedom of Religion (Occult Barf Alert)
Occultview.com ^ | Occultview Staff

Posted on 03/17/2012 11:01:49 AM PDT by AnTiw1

Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee for president. As a Mormon, Romney may become the first non-Christian president of the United States. With president Obama we had our first African American president, something unimaginable a couple of decades ago. It is something to be proud of! American society is evolving.

Now we have the possibility of our first Mormon president. This is a very good thing: a stride forward for religious freedom. Mormons are nice people, and even if I don’t share their beliefs, I respect their beliefs and wish them well. A Mormon president would free American politics from the control of the Christian right. If Mitt Romney is elected president that will mean the evangelical Christian right’s political power has been tamed. The evangelical lion will lose its roar.

(Excerpt) Read more at occultview.com ...


TOPICS: Other non-Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichristian; inman; lds; occult; romney
...apparently Mittens plays as well to OC-cultists as he does to cultists..
1 posted on 03/17/2012 11:01:57 AM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: AnTiw1

No, If Romney wins the presidency he will be the second non-Christian president.


2 posted on 03/17/2012 11:06:46 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: svcw

So we’ve already had a false prophet prez...is it Myth’s time, now?


3 posted on 03/17/2012 11:15:15 AM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: Salamander

Oh, hell no. You are correct Romney would be the second false prophet president.


4 posted on 03/17/2012 11:21:03 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: AnTiw1

Thomas Jefferson certainly wasn’t a Christian, at least not in the traditional sense or in the theological sense. He was basically a Deist, who adhered to most patterns of “Christian culture” and who greatly admired the ethical teachings of Jesus. But he didn’t accept the doctrine of the Trinity, and he refused to believe the miracles of the New Testament.


5 posted on 03/17/2012 11:30:17 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: svcw
Correct. Barry Soetero-∅bummer Jr (mUSLIM-IL) is the first; Myth'd be the second.
6 posted on 03/17/2012 11:37:11 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry Obummer and another 4yrs of Hell, anyday!)
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To: AnTiw1

Wow, you know things are bad for you, when the occult groups even realize Mormons are not Christians.


7 posted on 03/17/2012 11:39:28 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw

I’m just not feeling the comforting, here.

;]


8 posted on 03/17/2012 12:18:40 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: AnTiw1

bfl


9 posted on 03/17/2012 12:26:17 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: AnTiw1

Not surprising that Occultists who think Obama is a Good Thing also think that Romney is a Good Thing.


10 posted on 03/17/2012 12:34:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...

Ping


11 posted on 03/17/2012 1:56:09 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Praise Jesus! I have been redeemed from the "restoration" of mormonism!)
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To: svcw
"No, If Romney wins the presidency he will be the second non-Christian president."

Beat me to it.

I hope some of the so-called conservative idiots who voted for Romney in these past primaries see this and WAKE UP. If occultists think your boy is a good thing, HE ISN'T.

12 posted on 03/17/2012 2:02:26 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: AnTiw1
This appears to be a good spot to post the arcane belief that man may guarantee his salvation in this life by taking part in arcane temple rituals.

This is an excerpt from the article at the Brigham Young University website.

The Two Comforters, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith,comp. Joseph Fielding Smith (SLC: Deseret Book Co., 1938), 149-151.

There are two Comforters spoken of. One is the Holy Ghost, the same as given on the day of Pentecost, and that all Saints receive after faith, repentance, and baptism. This first Comforter or Holy Ghost has no other effect than pure intelligence. It is more powerful in expanding the mind, enlightening the understanding, and storing the intellect with present knowledge, of a man who is of the literal seed of Abraham, than one that is a Gentile, though it may not have half as much visible effect upon the body; for as the Holy Ghost falls upon one of the literal seed of Abraham, it is calm and serene; and his whole soul and body are only exercised by the pure spirit of intelligence; while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. That man that has none of the blood of Abraham (naturally) must have a new creation by the Holy Ghost. In such a case, there may be more of a powerful effect upon the body, and visible to the eye, than upon an Israelite, while the Israelite at first might be far before the Gentile in pure intelligence.

The Second Comforter

The other Comforter spoken of is a subject of great interest, and perhaps understood by few of this generation. After a person has faith in Christ, repents of his sins, and is baptized for the remission of his sins and receives the Holy Ghost, (by the laying on of hands), which is the first Comforter, then let him continue to humble himself before God, hungering and thirsting after righteousness, and living by every word of God, and the Lord will soon say unto him, Son, thou shalt be exalted.

When the Lord has thoroughly proved him, and finds that the man is determined to serve Him at all hazards, then the man will find his calling and his election made sure, then it will be his privilege to receive the other Comforter, which the Lord hath promised the Saints, as is recorded in the testimony of St. John, in the 14th chapter, from the 12th to the 27th verses.

Note the 16, 17, 18, 21, 23 verses: [Quoted.]

Now what is this other Comforter? It is no more nor less than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself; and this is the sum and substance of the whole matter; that when any man obtains this last Comforter, he will have the personage of Jesus Christ to attend him, or appear unto him from time to time, and even He will manifest the Father unto him, and they will take up their abode with him, and the visions of the heavens will be opened unto him, and the Lord will teach him face to face, and he may have a perfect knowledge of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God; and this is the state and place the ancient Saints arrived at when they had such glorious visions--Isaiah, Ezekiel, John upon the Isle of Patmos, St. Paul in the three heavens, and all the Saints who held communion with the general assembly and Church of the Firstborn.

The Spirit of Revelation

The Spirit of Revelation is in connection with these blessings. A person may profit by noticing the first intimation of the spirit of revelation; for instance, when you feel pure intelligence flowing into you, it may give you sudden strokes of ideas, so that by noticing it, you may find it fulfilled the same day or soon; (i.e.,) those things that were presented unto your minds by the Spirit of God, will come to pass; and thus by learning the Spirit of God and understanding it, you may grow into the principle of revelation, until you become perfect in Christ Jesus.

The Doctrine of Calling & Election, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 297-298:

Salvation through Knowledge

It is not wisdom that we should have all knowledge at once presented before us; but that we should have a little at a time; then we can comprehend it. President Smith then read the 2nd Epistle of Peter, 1st chapter, 16th to last verses, and dwelt upon the 19th verse with some remarks.

Add to you faith knowledge, etc. The principle of knowledge is the principle of salvation. This principle can be comprehended by the faithful and diligent; and every one that does not obtain knowledge sufficient to be saved will be condemned. The principle of salvation is given us through the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Salvation is to Triumph over Enemies

Salvation is nothing more nor less than to triumph over all our enemies and put them under our feet. And when we have power to put all enemies under our feet in this world, and a knowledge to triumph over all evil spirits in the world to come, then we are saved, as in the case of Jesus, who was to reign until He had put all enemies under His feet, and the last enemy was death.

No Salvation Without a Tabernacle

Perhaps there are principles here that few men have thought of. No person can have this salvation except through a tabernacle.

Now, in this world, mankind are naturally selfish, ambitious and striving to excel one above another; yet some are willing to build up others as well as themselves. So in the other world there are a variety of spirits. Some seek to excel. And this was the case with Lucifer when he fell. He sought for things which were unlawful. Hence he was sent down, and it is said he drew many away with him; and the greatness of his punishment is that he shall not have a tabernacle. This is his punishment. So the devil, thinking to thwart the decree of God, by going up and down in the earth, seeking whom he may destroy--any person that he can find that will yield to him, he will bind him, and take possession of the body and reign there, glorying in it mightily, not caring that he had got merely a stolen body; and by and by some one having authority will come along and cast him out and restore the tabernacle to its rightful owner. The devil steals a tabernacle because he hs not one of his own; but if he steals one, he is always liable to be turned out of doors.

Calling and Election

Now, there is some grand secret here, and keys to unlock the subject. Notwithstanding the apostle exhorts them to add to their faith, virtue, knowledge, temperance, etc., yet he exhorts them to make their calling and election sure. And though they had heard an audible voice from heaven bearing testimony that Jesus was the Son of God [Mt 17:5], yet he says we have a more sure word of prophecy, whereunto ye do well that ye take heed as unto a light shining in a dark place. Now, wherein could they have a more sure word of prophecy than to hear the voice of God saying, This is my beloved Son?

Now for the secret and grand key. Though they might hear the voice of God and know that Jesus was the Son of God, this would be no evidence that their calling and election was made sure, that they were sealed in the heavens and had the promise of eternal life in the kingdom of God. Then, having this promised sealed unto them, it was an anchor to the soul, sure and steadfast. Though the thunders might roll and lightnings flash, and earthquakes bellow, and war gather thick around, yet this hope and knowledge would support the soul in every hour of trial, trouble and tribulation. Then knowledge through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the grand key that unlocks the glories and mysteries of the kingdom of heaven.

Compare this principle once with Christendom at the present day, and where are they, with all their boasted religion, piety and sacredness while at the same time they are crying out against prophets, apostles, angels, revelations, prophesying and visions, etc. Why, they are just ripening for the damnation of hell. They will be damned, for they reject the most glorious principle of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and treat with disdain and trample under foot the key that unlocks the heavens and puts in our possession the glories of the celestial world. Yes, I say, such will be damned, with all their professed godliness. Then I would exhort you to go on and continue to call upon God until you make your calling and election sure for yourselves, by obtaining this more sure word of prophecy, and wait patiently for the promise until you obtain it."

Note that Smith feels the need to rant against Christianity...as usual.

13 posted on 03/17/2012 2:38:19 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Praise Jesus! I have been redeemed from the "restoration" of mormonism!)
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To: AnTiw1
Mormons are nice people, and even if I don’t share their beliefs, I respect their beliefs and wish them well.

Why would anyone respect the beliefs of another religious group? He may mean he tolerates the beliefs.
I wonder if he respects the beliefs of the Muslims?-tom

14 posted on 03/17/2012 2:53:19 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Cicero
This guy has a h8 on for the "evil Christian right" doesn't he?

A Mormon president would free American politics from the control of the Christian right. If Mitt Romney is elected president that will mean the evangelical Christian right’s political power has been tamed. The evangelical lion will lose its roar.

He, at least doesn't try and push the "mormons are Christian" line.

15 posted on 03/17/2012 3:01:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Praise Jesus! I have been redeemed from the "restoration" of mormonism!)
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To: greyfoxx39; Colofornian; Elsie; reaganaut; Godzilla; Tennessee Nana; metmom; boatbums; caww; ...

Whenever fallen men or their org presumes to be the supreme authority rather than Scripture then the souls as well as the bodies of men are in danger:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mountainmeadows/leeaccount.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/bancroftshistoryofutah_chapter19.htm (if you or kin could comment and elaborate on the credibility of this one i would appreciate it. Wikipedia seems to leave things out.)


16 posted on 03/17/2012 4:16:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a morally destitute+damned+sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you+live..)
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To: AnTiw1
Mormons are nice people, and even if I don’t share their beliefs, I respect their beliefs and wish them well.

Well; it can be deduced from THIS statement that the writer is NOT a Christian.

I, for one do NOT 'respect' the OBJECT of their faith; and wish them the saving gift that the TRUE Christ has offered to all.

17 posted on 03/17/2012 7:25:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
This appears to be a good spot to post the arcane belief that man may guarantee his salvation in this life by taking part in arcane temple rituals.

And there is the FLIP side of this coin:

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

I know that I would HATE to be an SLC MORMON and have THIS thing staring me in the face at Judgement Day!!!

18 posted on 03/17/2012 7:29:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
He, at least doesn't try and push the "mormons are Christian" line.

The dog ate the MEMO...



Office of First President & Living Prophet

November 1st, 2011

The message for this month is -

...to stay on our mantra: We ARE Christians!!

We've been taking a beating on the Internet - especially from those hateful ANTIs on FreeRepublic!
 
We MUST keep the media constantly informed of those things the world considers christian.

We must NOT allow our MORMONness to show thru, as it has gotten a really bad rap thru history - lord only knows why...
 
 
Tommy

19 posted on 03/17/2012 7:30:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

That was my first thought when I read the article, you got it right. Pretty telling for them to admit that with pride.


20 posted on 03/17/2012 9:22:55 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: reaganaut; AnTiw1; All
Wow, you know things are bad for you, when the occult groups even realize Mormons are not Christians.

ALL, including Lurkers: Want a FREEPER "index" of sorts of occult articles posted on FR about Mormon occultism?

Then see post #3 here: “BillionGraves” Webinar to Highlight New Genealogy Technology [Lds obsession with the dead]

Mormon occult categories listed there:
* Mormons sending people into other world via Murders (20 articles you can click on links)
* Mormon temples: Where the dead and the living intersect via OCCULTIC communication (16 articles you can click on links)
* The Mormon 'spirit world' -- where the dead co-exist with the living, no matter what their life was on earth (6 articles you can click on links)
* Mormon demon possession (2 articles you can click on links)
* Mormon spirit entities: Demons,'ghosts' or 'angels'? (6 articles you can click on links)
* Mormon Halloween: The Dead (4 articles you can click on links)
* Mormon vampires (3 articles you can click on links)
* Mormonism & Its OCCULTIC Roots (7 articles you can click on links)

21 posted on 03/18/2012 1:20:44 AM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: AnTiw1

The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

The lds-org is a thief of the Name and the Truth of Jesus Christ.

22 posted on 03/19/2012 5:19:02 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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