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Evangelical leaders urged to mobilize against administration contraception policy
CNN's Belief Blog ^ | March 16, 2012 | Jessica Yellin

Posted on 03/17/2012 10:48:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Sounds like a good way of going about it.
1 posted on 03/17/2012 10:48:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Strength in numbers.


2 posted on 03/17/2012 10:52:28 PM PDT by berdie
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I’m surprised and appalled to learn that the Protestants haven’t been mobilized already. I didn’t realize that just the Catholics were fighting on this front.

Obama is uniting two enormous groups of Christians. Nothing and nobody else could have done that. Good job, bro.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 11:00:29 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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That's not all...

4 posted on 03/17/2012 11:03:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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I think many Protestants already have. They are not a monolithic group, though, so they all have to make their own decisions.

I welcome anyone and everyone into this battle, as we realize it is far more than one Catholic doctrine. It is the entire right to religious freedom and the first amendment to the constitution.

5 posted on 03/18/2012 12:06:59 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On both the religious freedom issue and Barack Hussein’s “ruling” that “all that we have is his,” it’s time and past time to give him a resounding “No!” Both issues are — as yet — “pick-pick-pick” distractions, but freedom of religion is in Amendment ONE; that says a lot; and if he were successful in confiscating anything for his “national defense,” he would soon turn toward “Hmm, confiscation, national defense... Amendment TWO; hmm....”

Henceforth, Kenyan Muslim Frauds need not apply!


6 posted on 03/18/2012 1:22:30 AM PDT by Grampa3711 (Some people bring happiness wherever thet go; others, whenever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The trashing of the establishment clause by the administration is the biggest constitutional crisis since the imprisonment of Japaneese Americans by FDR. That too, was given a pass by the media.

In 1942 under the cover of war, habeas corpus rights were abridged...today, the first amendment is being trashed...with no special pleading, such as war time, being used as an excuse.

This administration is simply ignoring two hundred years of precedent law...and the msm thinks that’s just fine...because radical women and Obama want a kultur kampf on the Christian churches.

This is the biggest constitutional story since WWII.


7 posted on 03/18/2012 5:10:02 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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The letter urges followers to frame this as a debate about religious freedom, not contraception, because it's a more effective way to sway public opinion.

No Mr. CNN blogger, it is not because it's a more effective way to sway public opinion. The letter urges the debate because it is about religious freedom...

...as Chuck states: "this issue is NOT about contraceptives; it is about religious freedom

8 posted on 03/18/2012 6:07:32 AM PDT by uptoolate (Republicans sure do like their liberalism)
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I don’t mean to demean the religious aspect, but as an employer, I don’t want to be told I must provide contraceptive and abortifacient coverage, because I already object to having to provide psychiatric care in our company insurance.

Once they find they are paying for it, my employees don’t want psychiatric care coverage. Three of our fourteen employees are female, so covering contraceptives isn’t a big draw, and again, they won’t want to pay for it.

This is a freedom issue, period. Not just a freedom of religion issue. We should have the freedom to choose, as a company, what coverages we will provide, and what coverages we won’t provide, and the market will sort things out.


9 posted on 03/18/2012 6:20:15 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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Chicago ‘Lib-une’ put their spin on Republican candidates:

chicagotribune.com

Religion a key issue as Illinois Republicans go to polls
Santorum beckons social conservatives who feel persecuted because of their faith

By Manya A. Brachear, Chicago Tribune reporter

March 18, 2012

The issue of religious freedom, raised by all four Republican candidates but identified most strongly with Rick Santorum, finds an interested audience as the contest reaches Illinois.

Last year in Illinois, Catholic Charities and the Evangelical Child and Family Agency were forced to pull out of the foster care business when they refused to license couples in civil unions. The state’s six Roman Catholic bishops also have protested a federal mandate requiring Catholic hospitals and universities to cover contraceptives for their employees.

Some believe Santorum’s religious rhetoric could lure socially conservative voters who feel persecuted for their religious beliefs and who argue that the nation’s founding principle of religious liberty is under attack by President Barack Obama’s administration. Religion is seen as a lightning-rod issue, similar to the proposed bans on same-sex marriage that drew social conservatives to the polls in 2004 and helped George W. Bush win re-election.

“The language that we hear about the Obama administration waging war against religion is both energizing and polarizing,” said Ralph Keen, chair of Catholic studies at the University of Illinois at Chicago. “The person who declares that there is an Obama-led war against religion is going to be recognized as the leader of a cause that mobilizes. It’s going to mobilize the religious population.”

Yet the religious calculations are not simple....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-religion-illinois-primary-20120318,0,6351404,print.story


10 posted on 03/18/2012 6:21:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good for Colson.
As it's said by berdie: strength in numbers.
11 posted on 03/18/2012 6:22:21 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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12 posted on 03/18/2012 6:23:12 AM PDT by narses
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I would like to compose an Honor Roll of non-Catholic churches and institutions (including church-affiliated colleges and universities) who either have issued statements in opposition, or who have joined lawsuits against this HHS abomination. So far, I have:

LAWSUITS

STATEMENTS

Ping this around! I know this list is radically incomplete. Somebody help me make a better one!

13 posted on 03/18/2012 6:43:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mit brennender Sorge)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


14 posted on 03/18/2012 6:54:03 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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I don’t mean to demean the religious aspect ...

You might as well. The Catholic heirarchy is demeaning the religious aspect by saying the demand for "free" contraceptives/sterilization/abortion is legitimate, as long as they don't participate. That is, it's not really about right and wrong, just a matter of personal taste.

This is a freedom issue, period.

You are right. The best way to ensure freedom of religion (and along with it, every other freedom) is to reduce government power at every level. No government should be mandating "free" provision of contraceptives/abortions/sterilization. No government should be mandating coverage for infertility treatment, gastric bypass, "alternative" medicine, or any other thing that a special interest (usually the people selling whatever it is) wants mandated.

Individuals, employers, and insurance companies could sort this out, in a free market.

15 posted on 03/18/2012 8:08:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm trying to avoid sarcasm, but darn it, life is absurd!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonderful news!


16 posted on 03/18/2012 1:28:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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17 posted on 03/18/2012 1:29:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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It is not the job of the church to provide cover for Roman Catholics .They voted for this mess and are just looking for an exemption for themselves .
They are not looking for a repeal of a murderous law they are just looking for a way out for themselves.

WE SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY AGENDA THAT GIVES A LOOP HOLE TO SOME BUT FORCES EVERYONE ELSE TO PAY FOR THE MURDER OF OUR CITIZENS .

THE JOB OF THE EVANGELICAL CHURCH IS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL AND TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT TO EVERY MAN WHO ASK WHAT WE BELIEVE AND WHY WE BELIEVE IT .

THE FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICAL CHURCH (confessing church) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ROME AND WE HAD BETTER NOT FORGET THAT OR WE WILL END UP JUST AS WATERED DOWN AND ASLEEP AS THE MAINSTREAM PROTESTANTS THAT ARE NOW EUCAMENICAL WITH HER .

WE ARE NOT UNIVERSAL WE ARE A CALLED OUT PEOPLE.


18 posted on 03/19/2012 11:52:36 AM PDT by Lera
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To: Lera

I get it. You don’t like the Catholic Church.

Well we are all in this fight now. It is all of us and our religious freedom at stake.


19 posted on 03/19/2012 6:46:00 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

You better get the fact that we need this law repealed
we don’t need an exemption for anyone we need a flat out repeal .

You better get that and your church better get that to because if we don’t get that repeal we are going to suddenly wake up to a very different look America

The law contains and exemption for Muslims
If it is not repealed you are going to see an awful lot of stupid people converting to get something free


20 posted on 03/19/2012 8:15:44 PM PDT by Lera
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