The Liberal elite in the West probably do. At least they give Mohammed such deference that it amounts to worship. Perhaps not as much as they worship Obama ("PBUH"), but close.
Posted on 03/21/2012 5:27:30 AM PDT by marshmallow
Rick Santorum attended a revival-type church service on Sunday night in Louisiana, where the Rev. Dennis Terry, pastor of the Greenwell Springs Baptist Church, offered some fire and brimstone in a videotaped sermon that on Monday was going viral because of his fiery comments.
“I don’t care what the liberals say, I don’t care what the naysayers say, this nation was founded as a Christian nation,” Mr. Terry said.
“There’s only one God, and his name is Jesus,” he continued. “I’m tired of people telling me that I can’t say those words. I’m tired of people telling us as Christians that we can’t voice our beliefs or we can no longer pray in public. Listen to me. If you don’t love America, if you don’t like the way we do things I have one thing to say — get out!”
Thunderous applause interrupted him before he went on.
“We don’t worship Buddha! I said we don’t worship Buddha, we don’t worship Muhammad, we don’t worship Allah, we worship God, we worship God’s son Jesus Christ.”
He said that the church had to be the conscience of the nation and went on to rail against abortion and homosexuality. His goal, he said, is to “put God back in America,” in homes, schools and “in our state house.”
As the congregation gave Mr. Terry an enthusiastic standing ovation, Mr. Santorum also stood and applauded.
At the end of the service, Mr. Terry held his hand over Mr. Santorum and Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and asked God to “have favor” on him, to “watch over him, bless him and keep him safe.”
He added: “For all those men that are running for office tonight, I pray you’ll speak to their hearts.” At this point, Mr. Santorum demonstrably nodded his........
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I don't think anybody worships Muhammad. The Muslims revere him, but they don't worship him.
I’m still praying for a miracle.
Sadly, I agree. Rick Santorum has wasted a perfect opportunity to advance the conservative agenda to the national level by over-playing the ‘social’ card when he needed to promote the ‘economic’ card. People are hurting since Bush checked out early, and Obama ransacked and torched the place. We need someone who will re-build, not a preacher.
It borders on worship.
I mean no disrespect-—I just have a question for Santorum supporters. Do you think Santorum might have been better off to try and win back his Senate seat, like George Allen is doing in Virginia?
Santorum goes to one revival meeting and is toast? Obama goes for years to Rev Wrights church and gets a pass? What?? I don’t think anything said at that revival matches the things that Wright said.
Sounds like the fire for this event was Rev. Dennis Terry, pastor of the Greenwell Springs Baptist Church.
This is a Christian fight, now just a Catholic Fight.
We are in this battle together my FRiend.
And it is truly a battle for the survival of this nation.
Prayer: “Lord we often forget:
‘No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.’”
And we pray: “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.”
Why is it O.K. to profess that Allah is your only God right before you ram airplanes into buildings and not O.K. profess your love for Jesus and then pray (which is somehow offensive). Santorum is just fine, this country could use more people like him in government. Why is freedom of speech reserved only for non-christians? Why are you judging him by his religion? Where were you when Reverend Wright spewed his hate? I would imagine that you were not asking for Obama to just run for senate again? Can you answer some of those questions for me?
America is finished if “conservatives” don’t stop dancing to the liberal beat.
This pastor said nothing even remotely controversial and Rick Santorum said nothing at all.
Sadly we pray in times of trouble and tribulation but when things are going good we become neglectful.
They worship Mohammed, as well. Name all their kids after him. If you lived in an Asian country long enough, you’d say that they also worship him. He comes part and parcel with Allah.
Of course the NYTimes plays this up as some crazy-eyed rally. I see absolutely nothing wrong with what Pastor Terry said - nothing. A lot of Americans, such as myself, hold these very same beliefs.
I can’t believe you’ve totally swallowed the MSM line with so little resistance. As the primaries have progressed I’ve watched videos of Santorum’s speeches and have seen for myself just how badly the MSM has made his campaign all about morals and values. I’ve seen firsthand the great lengths to which the MSM has gone to marginalize Santorum, and values voters along with him. I watched a speech Santorum gave in Ohio - it was posted on the C-span website - which was all about the economy and manufacturing. Did you notice it?
The MSM wants values voters (i.e. CONSERVATIVES) to go off and sit in a corner wimpering. It sounds like you’re there already.
The Founders are rolling over in their graves witnessing this spineless generation.
Some of the best happened to America when preachers founded Colleges, hospitals etc. If George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were here today they would be derided as “preachers.”
The founders of Harvard, Yale, Princton etc. we ministers and servants of God. Harvard College was founded in “Christi Gloriam” and later decicated “Christo et Ecclesiae.” The founders of Harvard believed that:
All knowledge without Christ was vain.
The American revolution began in the churches.
That’s why its so important for the left to attack Christianity with such rage. They fear us.
Second, Rick said in his own words..'Issue in This Race Is Not the Economy'
\ What a dumb and stupid thing to say! - to me, that says it all.
The guy is a 'default' candidate who never had any constituency and had 1.5% support at the start. His track record is not ready for 'prime time'. He can look good for a few debates, but his record doesn't demonstrate 'gut' strength on economic issues. He's done! He's toast! We have no real conservative left to keep Romney out!
Looks like I will have to do a write-in come the time for the general elections and vote for the best conservative canidiate during the upcoming primary.
By posting this NY Times hit piece, along with your *sigh* resigned comment, YOU, marshmallow, are contributing to the MSM’s efforts in making people forget all about the fight for religious freedom. Not only is the Reverand right about Christians being intimidated into silence, the POTUS has “laid down the law” to people of faith, or no faith. Our 1st Amendment right to CONSCIENCE is under attack, and we no longer have the luxury of pretending this is 2008, or even 2006, again. This is not just another election. Think about this the next time you’re tempted to sigh.
....Because they KNOW that Christianity is the TRUTH.
Rick was right! The issue is getting back to our Judeo-Christian heritage and the vision of the Founders. Without those two things, THERE IS NO ECONOMY, ONLY SLAVERY.
The only vision *you* have is tunnel.
Christianity is the bulwark.
The lack of freedom is what is destroying our economy.
Sadly, The leftist stream media won't allow the Obama/Wright connection but will certainly let everyone know of Santorums revival meeting visit and with great disdain. But, the good news is that Santorum doesn't hide his genuine faith or distort biblical teachings as some in Washington do.
Religion and the Founding of the American Republic
Like any other sort of wannabee tyrant, given an inch religious tyrants will take a mile, and will push on to destruction.
“America is finished if “conservatives” don’t stop dancing to the liberal beat.
This pastor said nothing even remotely controversial and Rick Santorum said nothing at all.”
Absolutely right. This is nothing I don’t hear my (Baptist) pastor say at least once a month or more in church. We have the right to believe as Christians in preaching the name of Jesus. And there’s nothing at all wrong with Rick Santorum being there with them. It’s no different than events attended by Rick Perry, George W. Bush, or Ronald Reagan for that matter.
Absolutely perfectly said. There was only one conservative alternative in the race and $20+M in negative ads did him in. Partly because of the ads and partly because a large number of “ conservative” voters got sucked in by Saint Ricks sanctimonious social rants and jumped on the bandwagon of a big labor, big government, establishment empty suit with no record of conservative accomplishments.
What is really sad is that even after the facts on his pathetic “take one for the team” record have come to light a majority of “conservative” voters have continued to vote for Saint Rick.
The Liberal elite in the West probably do. At least they give Mohammed such deference that it amounts to worship. Perhaps not as much as they worship Obama ("PBUH"), but close.
Wow! You deduced all that from my one little question? I am going to assume your answer to my question is that Santorum would not have been better off running again for his Senate seat.
Romney is very much, capable of beating Obama, because he will launch negative ads against Obama, expose Obama and all the things he has hidden, which will be unleashed if Obama wins a second term.
I do not trust that Romney will not go to the Left again, after he wins the nomination. We all know better.
But we will have no other choice, because letting Obama win, will be the end of America and Free Enterprise. It will become a Corporate Oligarchy/Nationalist Socialism. It is already there, but it is just hidden behind the curtain until after the election is over.
Wow! You deduced all that from my one little question? I am going to assume your answer to my question is that Santorum would not have been better off running again for his Senate seat.
No. You should deduce that I think Obama would be better off running for HIS old senate seat.
THIS, in the NY Times? They must be praying for a revival of their newspaper.
No, Obozo is not the Messiah, but he clearly serves the father-of-lies.
Buddhists don’t worship Buddha either...this guy needs a course on comparative religions..
A few months ago we all thought that Santorum and Gingrich would drop by the wayside early. As it turns out, Santorum is our main hope of getting a conservative nominee, and Gingrich is just hanging around picking up the odd delegate here and there.At this point to say that Santorum should get out is tantamount to saying that Romney should be the nominee. Do you think that Romney - who has what signature conservative accomplishment or even conservative leadership posture on a significant issue - should be the nominee?
If you knew for certain that Romney would win if nominated, you would certainly have a case for considering him, even if he’s not the second coming of Ronald Reagan. But you don’t know that - or, if you do, you know that any Republican nominee will win because Obama so richly deserves to be unemployed. But frankly, nominating “electable” moderates is highly overrated - as people like Dole and Gerald Ford amply illustrate.
The trouble with nominating moderates is that they will sometimes take perfectly defensible conservative positions on issues, then retreat at the first sign of criticism from a tenable position to an indefensible one. Such as W retreating from the plain truth - “the British have learned that Saddam has made inquiries about buying uranium from Africa” (quote approximate) to an apology. And like W allowing the naming a “Special Prosecutor” to learn what his own Secretary of State already knew, and then to hang around generating negative headlines for months and persecute Scooter Libby for the crime of working for the vice President.
Romney won the Florida primary by aggressively telling half-truths -and as Benjamin Franklin put it, Half the truth is often a great lie” - about Gingrich by quoting spurious charges that the Democrats slung at Gingrich before he was speaker. All lies, and to quote them as if they presumably were true!! I’m surprised Gingrich didn’t threaten to bolt the party and run on another ticket if Romney were nominated!
Actually, Santorum is targeted because he sounds more like an evangelical, whom he hangs with here, and who would vote for him more, than the typical American RC which liberals Rome counts and buries as members.
I don’t disagree with what you say, but you don’t have to make it your primary campaign issue. If you want to win this election, it has to be on the economy! Period! Everything else is secondary (it doesn’t mean it’s not part of the package). Rick is trying to make this into a religion-culture war, but that’s not what’s going to get you a majority in November.
John Adams — Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell."
John Quincy Adams — “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.”
"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not on the power of government...[but] upon the capacity of each and every one of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."
Samuel Adams — “I conceive we cannot better express ourselves than by humbly supplicating the Supreme Ruler of the world . . . that the confusions that are and have been among the nations may be overruled by the promoting and speedily bringing in the holy and happy period when the kingdoms of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ may be everywhere established, and the people willingly bow to the scepter of Him who is the Prince of Peace.”
John Hancock — called on the entire state to pray “that universal happiness may be established in the world [and] that all may bow to the scepter of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the whole earth be filled with His glory.”
John Adams — “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with passions unbridled by morality and religion."
"Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand."
James Madison — "No power over the freedom of religion [is] delegated to the United States by the Constitution."
Elias Boudinot President of Congress — “Let us enter on this important business under the idea that we are Christians on whom the eyes of the world are now turned… [L]et us earnestly call and beseech Him, for Christ’s sake, to preside in our councils. . . . We can only depend on the all powerful influence of the Spirit of God, Whose Divine aid and assistance it becomes us as a Christian people most devoutly to implore. Therefore I move that some minister of the Gospel be requested to attend this Congress every morning . . . in order to open the meeting with prayer.”
Patrick Henry — “Righteousness alone can exalt America as a nation. Whoever thou art, remember this; and in thy sphere practice virtue thyself, and encourage it in others.”
“The great pillars of all government and of social life [are] virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone, that renders us invincible.”
John Jay — “By conveying the Bible to people . . . we certainly do them a most interesting act of kindness.”
“I recommend a general and public return of praise and thanksgiving to Him from whose goodness these blessings descend. The most effectual means of securing the continuance of our civil and religious liberties is always to remember with reverence and gratitude the source from which they flow.”
“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”
Benjamin Rush — “By renouncing the Bible, philosophers swing from their moorings upon all moral subjects… It is the only correct map of the human heart that ever has been published.
“[T]he only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government is the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible.”
“The Bible, when not read in schools, is seldom read in any subsequent period of life… [T]he Bible… should be read in our schools in preference to all other books because it contains the greatest portion of that kind of knowledge which is calculated to produce private and public happiness.”
“I do not believe that the Constitution was the offspring of inspiration, but I am as satisfied that it is as much the work of a Divine Providence as any of the miracles recorded in the Old and New Testament.”
George Washington — "I now make it my earnest prayer that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection...that he would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility, and pacific temper of mind, which were the characteristics of the Divine Author of our blessed religion, and without an humble imitation of whose example in these things, we can never hope to be a happy nation."
“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
“...there is no truth more thoroughly established, than that there exists in the economy and course of nature, an indissoluble union between virtue and happiness...we ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained: and since the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the republican model of government, are justly considered as deeply, perhaps as finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people….”
“...it would be peculiarly improper to omit, in this first official act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government.” (In his Inaugural Speech, April 30, 1789)
"Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."
Congress, 1854 — “The great, vital, and conservative element in our system is the belief of our people in the pure doctrines and the divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”
Abraham Lincoln — "It is the duty of nations, as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God and to recognize the sublime truth announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord."
"I know that the Lord is always on the side of right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I - and this nation - should be on the Lord's side.”
“The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of the government in the next. The only assurance of our nation’s safety is to lay our foundation in morality and religion.”
“But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious Hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced be some superior wisdom and virtue of our own."
Alexis de Tocqueville — “The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other; and with them this conviction does not spring from that barren traditionary faith which seems to vegetate in the soul rather than to live.” (Democracy in America, Volume I Chapter XVII (1835)
A quote which is disputed as to his authorship says,
“Not until I went into the churches of American and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”
Benjamin Franklin — “...serious religion, under its various denominations, is not only tolerated, but respected and practiced. Atheism is unknown there; Infidelity rare and secret; so that persons may live to a great age in that country without having their piety shocked by meeting with either an Atheist or an Infidel. And the Divine Being seems to have manifested His approbation of the mutual forbearance and kindness by which the different sects treat each other, and by the remarkable prosperity with which He has been please to favor the whole country.” (John Gould Curtis, American history told by contemporaries .... Volume 3, p. 26)
United States Supreme Court, 1892
Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States — “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”
The Continental Congress, on September 11, 1777, recommended and approved that the Committee of Commerce "import 20,000 Bibles from Holland, Scotland, or elsewhere," because of their was a great need for bibles because of a great shortage caused by the Revolutionary War.
Daniel Webster — “If there is anything in my thoughts or style to commend, the credit is due to my parents for instilling in me an early love of the Scriptures. If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.”
If religious books are not widely circulated among the masses in this country, I do not know what is going to become of us as a nation. If truth be not diffused, error will be;
If God and His Word are not known and received, the devil and his works will gain the ascendancy; If the evangelical volume does not reach every hamlet, the pages of a corrupt and licentious literature will;
If the power of the Gospel is not felt throughout the length and breadth of the land, anarchy and misrule, degradation and misery, corruption and darkness will reign without mitigation or end."
“Lastly, our ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be trusted on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits.... Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.”
“Finally, let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers were brought hither by their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate its principles with the elements of their society, and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political, or literary."
June 17, 1843, at the Bunker Hill Monument in Charleston, Massachusetts, Webster declared,
“The Bible came with them. And it is not to be doubted, that to free and universal reading of the Bible, in that age, men were much indebted for right views of civil liberty.
The Bible is a book of faith, and a book of doctrine, and a book of morals, and a book of religion, of special revelation from God; but it is also a book which teaches man his own individual responsibility, his own dignity, and his equality with his fellow-man.”
More: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/quotes_compare.html
Romney is going to win this thing because there is no strong candidate to take him on (it’s too late now).
Just look back a year ago. The two remaining candidates trying to stop Romney, Newt and Rick, were absolutely no-bodies in terms of constituencies or followings. In fact, if you had mentioned any of these two in FR back then to elicit support for them, you would have been laughed out of the forum. Now, we’re mystified as to why none of these two can’t get any traction with the voters.
Sarah Palin had her opportunity, and she bailed. I would still vote for her, but if she was serious about doing something, she should have mixed it up with the rest of them.
Forget about any brokered convention (as much as I would prefer to see one). This game is over, and it’s over because none of these two remaining candidates deserve to be in the top stop through their own right. And it shows.
Actually Obama and the media are pushing the religious war...along with racisim and sexual issues.....which diverts away from obmas major failures to the economy and a host of other failures as well.
Unfortunately Rick took their bait and is running on it....and he's not getting the catholic vote thus far as he hoped to.
The guy lacks understanding of the game and that he's being used and how. Which is why he's called a Lightweight. He just can't get his head around the plays in motion and it shows.
PSYCHO...Nobody’s convinced me that voting for Romney is the way to go..... Even should that mean Obama gets 4 more. I see little difference between them...besides Romney will be front man only for the leadership of his church who will be calling the shots he must play...and we can’t see what they’re up to until after the fact..... At least with Obama we can load the congress and stop him as much as possible...you can’t fight an enemy you cannot see nor know.
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@mcottle @Daily Beast gives #Newt a Breathalyzer, finds him “drunk on cocktail of spite, narcissism and general mischief”
Contrast the ongoing ‘debate’ between Newt and Obama to this stuff.
Rick has a tin ear, poor strategic skills.
Rick is a ‘good guy’ and plays for our side of the field. That being said, he’s not cut out to be ‘Captain’ of the team. He’s never demonstrated any degree of success in any tactical thinking, accomplishments in the face of adversity, nor standing up against the powers-that-be when it gets hot in the kitchen.
Amen & Amen! Most Heartily agree!
“We can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth!”
“By mercy and truth iniquity is purged, and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” (Proverbs 16:6)
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