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To: Salvation

I do not recall a requirement for temporal punishment always taught by the Church, either in this life or in the afterlife.

Men, being Man, will sin, that is why we are blessed by God to have Jesus as a payment for our sin.

God gives us examples of punishment in this life, as your David citation shows, but also examples of raw salvation by faith only in Jesus.

The only example I see of someone asking any other to atone for their sins is by the Jews in relation to their priests.

I believe, therefore I am redeemed.


6 posted on 03/22/2012 9:19:34 PM PDT by anathemized (cursed by some, blessed in Jesus)
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To: anathemized

“God gives us examples of punishment in this life, as your David citation shows, but also examples of raw salvation by faith only in Jesus.”

Yes, great point. When the thief on the cross believed in Christ, I don’t remember Jesus telling him he would see him in Heaven after he got through with a stint in Purgatory. Also, with the case of the adulterous woman, Christ intervened to put a stop to temporal punishment, and then simply told her to stop sinning.


8 posted on 03/22/2012 10:50:33 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: anathemized

“The only example I see of someone asking any other to atone for their sins is by the Jews in relation to their priests.”

Actually, there is one other example from the Bible that I can think of. Simon Magus, the “father of heresies”, pleaded for Peter to pray to God on his behalf for forgiveness after trying to purchase the gift of the Holy Spirit. I think we all know how that worked out for Simon.


9 posted on 03/22/2012 10:52:53 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Don’t you think we will all have to atone (answer) for our sins at the moement of our death?

I do.


11 posted on 03/23/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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