The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.
They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.
They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.
Posted on 03/26/2012 9:19:05 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.
1 And now I finish my record concerning the destruction of my people, the Nephites. And it came to pass that we did march forth before the Lamanites.
2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle.
3 And it came to pass that the king of the Lamanites did grant unto me the thing which I desired.
4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents around about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites.
5 And *when three hundred and eighty and four years had passed away, we had gathered in all the remainder of our people unto the land of Cumorah.
6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni.
7 And it came to pass that my people, with their wives and their children, did now behold the armies of the Lamanites marching towards them; and with that awful fear of death which fills the breasts of all the wicked, did they await to receive them.
8 And it came to pass that they came to battle against us, and every soul was filled with terror because of the greatness of their numbers.
9 And it came to pass that they did fall upon my people with the sword, and with the bow, and with the arrow, and with the ax, and with all manner of weapons of war.
10 And it came to pass that my men were hewn down, yea, even my ten thousand who were with me, and I fell wounded in the midst; and they passed by me that they did not put an end to my life.
11And when they had gone through and hewn down all my people save it were twenty and four of us, (among whom was my son Moroni) and we having survived the dead of our people, did behold on the morrow, when the Lamanites had returned unto their camps, from the top of the hill Cumorah, the ten thousand of my people who were hewn down, being led in the front by me.
12 And we also beheld the ten thousand of my people who were led by my son Moroni.
13 And behold, the ten thousand of Gidgiddonah had fallen, and he also in the midst.
14 And Lamah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Gilgal had fallen with his ten thousand; and Limhah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Jeneum had fallen with his ten thousand; and Cumenihah, and Moronihah, and Antionum, and Shiblom, and Shem, and Josh, had fallen with their ten thousand each.
15 And it came to pass that there were ten more who did fall by the sword, with their ten thousand each; yea, even all my people, save it were those twenty and four who were with me, and also a few who had escaped into the south countries, and a few who had deserted over unto the Lamanites, had fallen; and their flesh, and bones, and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the land, and to crumble and to return to their mother earth.
16 And my soul was rent with anguish, because of the slain of my people, and I cried:
17 O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord! O ye fair ones, how could ye have rejected that Jesus, who stood with open arms to receive you!
18 Behold, if ye had not done this, ye would not have fallen. But behold, ye are fallen, and I mourn your loss.
19 O ye fair sons and daughters, ye fathers and mothers, ye husbands and wives, ye fair ones, how is it that ye could have fallen!
20 But behold, ye are gone, and my sorrows cannot bring your return.
21 And the day soon cometh that your mortal must put on immortality, and these bodies which are now moldering in corruption must soon become incorruptible bodies; and then ye must stand before the judgment-seat of Christ, to be judged according to your works; and if it so be that ye are righteous, then are ye blessed with your fathers who have gone before you.
22 O that ye had repented before this great destruction had come upon you. But behold, ye are gone, and the Father, yea, the Eternal Father of heaven, knoweth your state; and he doeth with you according to his justice and mercy.
Oh; we hope not.
LORD; reveal Yourself to Flash.
The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.
They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.
They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.
Nor do I.
I do, however, have a whole lot of animus towards mormonISM. What's your point?
Perhaps you should learn a little more about mormonism if you plan to defend it further.
We are grateful for the 52,225 full-time missionaries serving in more than 150 countries.16 The sun never sets on righteous missionaries testifying of the Savior mormon church. Think of the spiritual power of 52,000 missionaries, endowed with the Spirit of the Lord Joseph Smith, boldly declaring that there is “no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come … , only in and through the name of Christ. mormon church temple rituals
"My young brethren of the priesthood, I testify of the majesty, but most of all, of the certainty of this magnificent event. The Savior lives. He will return to the earth (the Second Coming) . And whether on this side of the veil or the other, you and I will rejoice in His coming and thank the Lord that He sent us to earth at this time to fulfill our sacred duty of helping prepare the world for His return the mormon theocracy
."other people, who may not yield full obedience to his laws, nor be fully instructed in his covenants, will, nevertheless, have to yield full obedience to his government. For it will be the reign of God upon the earth, and he will enforce his laws, and command that obedience from the nations of the world which is legitimately his right” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: John Taylor [2001], 225).
Preparing the World for the Second Coming-LDS.org, April 2011
Anyone who believes that Romney isn't fully immersed in this doctrine and the Law of Consecration is a fool: The Law of Consecration is considered by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a "celestial law." That is, people who are living lives dedicated to the service of God, such that at judgment they would be assigned to the Celestial Kingdom, should be able and expected to live the Law of Consecration. The Law of Consecration is that, if necessary or requested, a person would give everything he has for the building up of the Kingdom of God on Earth. He would be willing to wholeheartedly give of his time, talents, and resources. Thus, the person is "consecrating" all his personal resources to the Lord.
“The law of consecration,” said Elder Bruce R. McConkie (1915–85) of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, “is that we consecrate our time, our talents, and our money and property to the cause of the Church; such are to be available to the extent they are needed to further the Lord’s interests on earth.” Mormon Temple Covenants
So, whine away. The exposure you provide enables us to post more information that many FReepers and lurkers have not seen about the beliefs of mormons, including Romney.
The one Mormon I knew really well was a guy I served under in the Air Force 40+ years ago. To this day, he stands out as one of the most impressive men I’ve ever known.
I hate to tell ya, but if his Mormonism was the only thing I knew about Romney, I’d vote for him in a minute.
How are we going to defeat liberalism by voting in a man who would be the most liberal Republican nominee of all time? Romney is the modern-day version of Nelson Rockefeller. Fighting liberalism by replacing Obama with Romney is the same as fighting gang influence by leaving the Crips to join MS-13.
A Romney general election victory in 2012 would for all practical purposes destroy conservatism as a force in the Republican Party. For the next 4-5 Presidential election cycles, the GOP-E and their MSM allies will point to Romney's victory in 2012 as the blueprint for how Republicans get elected - avoiding conservative positions and ideas. Tea Party ideals will be pushed to the sidelines to be forever ignored.
However, Romney is FAR better than Obama, on many fronts.
I want a better nominee, but I will vote AGAINST Obama no matter what.
Romney v. Obama is definitely a rock v. a hard spot decision. As bad as McCain's politics were, Romney's are worse across-the-board.
Since I believe that only conservative principles will ultimately save this country and Obama's re-election won't destroy conservatism, his re-election is probably better for the country than Romney's election. With a Romney win, we'll still get 75-90% of Obama's agenda but as a viable political force, conservatism will die. While conservatism might try to resurrect itself in a third-party, the current political arrangement makes third-party runs difficult, if not impossible. If Romney succeeds in defeating conservatism in the Republican Party, it is for all practical purposes, dead. That is why I can't hold my nose and vote for Romney - not this time - Romney is a bridge too far. I could vote without enthusiasm for McCain and Dubya in 2004 but not this time.
I assume you are a Kansas resident. So am I. Therefore, withholding my vote from Romney will have no effect. There are enough Republicans like you who will vote for him that he should carry the state. If Romney really needs my vote in Kansas, he would be getting slaughtered in the rest of the country. Unfortunately, for Romney, I think that there are enough conservatives like me in NC, VA, FL, and a couple of others that I doubt he could turn those states back into R states and therefore, he is probably doomed in the general election. The GOP-E should have thought about this before they shoved this dud down our throats.
No problem there. I was just responding to the principle of challenging me to question Mormonism. I took the title literally.
I still don't want to question Mormonism.
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My tagline comes from a respect for truth in advertising laws (even though no one else follows them).
It is evident that you think that MORMONism has made these men what they are.
Do you ANYTHING about MORMONism; other than it has apparently produced what you consider to be an 'impressive man'?
CHOIR??
Why? To each his own.
What kind of a 'christian' choir sings THAT song?
We are told to CONTEND for the Faith; not proclaim, "Whatever".
We challenge you to question Mormonism.
Would THIS have worked better??
We challenge you Christians to question False Teachings
Isn’t it our goal to defeat Obama, and to defeat Liberalism?
Boy, are YOU on the wrong thread.
(Only a brainwashed soul doesn't see RomneyCare in the BayState as not "liberal" ... would that be you, Kansas 58?)
Pick ANY Democrat. A president. A president-wanna-be. A congressman. Now imagine them introducing legislation for socialized healthcare. Hillary, as just-Bill's-wife, tried it in the 1990s. Didn't work. Mitt "outliberaled" them all...ALL Dems...Only Obama has "outliberaled" Mitt on the matter...but Mitt was THE pioneer!
Only a brainwashed soul would conclude Romney's Dec '07 view -- expressed to Katie Couric -- the view whereby it was "OK" for parents to donate their offspring to "research"...as NOT "liberal..." Would that be you Kansas58.
Kansas58's new motto...my tagline: Vote in ONE socialist...to defeat another!!!
Iow..."I'm not my brother's keeper..." "To each his own religion...until we have as many religions in the world as we have people..."
Gotcha, but nice try anyway.
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