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"Ale Mary" Dive Bar Uses Monstrance and Chalices for Drunken Revelries
Eponymous Flower ^ | March 25, 2012

Posted on 03/26/2012 1:38:33 PM PDT by NYer

Edit: A definition from Wikipedia is useful here: Blasphemy is irreverence towards religious or holy persons or things.[1] Some countries have laws to punish blasphemy,[2] while others have laws to give recourse to those who are offended by blasphemy. 


[Fell's Point, Baltimore, MD] There was a show called "Cheers" on television years ago.  It was bawdy and vulgar yet there were some borders it was not safe to pass in the early 80s when the show first aired.  It depicted a homey place, reminiscent of an unpretentious neighborhood bar with a hint of old world ambiance and Boston charm.  The heavy wooden furniture and the bar spoke of permanence, elegance,  and  that favorite piety of secular artists, human dignity. It was not always clear who the show's buffoons were, but you knew them when you saw them, and sometimes, it was a comedic mailman who could be the most noble in the simplicity of his fears.  Some other writer said something about irony being lost on a society which had no shame.  That's why we'd like to wield a metaphorical hammer.  Perhaps there are others who can put a better finish on the details of what we will tell.

Satirical painting: priest displeased with Nun?

All we can say is that sometimes evil is really mundane and some of us don't realize that we're not only bufoons needlessly offending  people's religious sensibilities, but far worse than that, we're offending God.  Even the name of the bar, a pun on the Blessed Mother's name seems calculated to be offensive.

Would you like some candy?

 We're not talking about this place, but it's not far from Boston, but it boasts a similar unmistakable charm you'd expect in New England with friendly folks.

One of the features of the bar, and there are many, is its unmistakable Catholic ambiance. It's called, Ale Mary's and is located in Fell's point Maryland. One can just smell the faint aroma of the ocean as you think about it. The food is inexpensive, but if you're Catholic you might find it too expensive for the peace of your conscience to see the sacramental elements of your religion appear for the sake of decoration in peculiarly deliberate ways.

Chalices Used for Holy Sacrifice Being Abused by Patrons

It's not surprising, but it's not acceptable either that chalices which are used in Catholic Mass for the consecration of wine which becomes the blood of Christ, are used by patrons to drink (and get drunk from). They're made of precious metals, sometimes jewels, but their use in such a secular setting is strange and unsettling. No less than the inexplicable painting of a priest with a stole, looking aghast or in surprise at a nun who has her back to him.

The most disturbing thing in the restaurant is the monstrance which is behind the bar used as decoration. The monstrance is large ornate disk, often resembling the sun, which is surmounted in a long stand with a heavy base. It contains a crystal compartment at the center of the disk where a consecrated communion Host can be placed inside and it allows the priest to elevate the entire object by the stand for the veneration of the Sacrament it contains. Seeing this monstrance here in this bar, covered with mardigras beads and a mustached smiley face where the Host would normally be is a little bit like finding family heirlooms in the hands of people who not only use them for purposes for which they were never intended, but use them in disrespectful ways.


Mustached Smiley Face Seems Particularly Malevolent

We found out about this recently and the individual who sent this to us wrote an e-mail complaining about the display of these religious items and even offered to purchase them. Far from being treated with the respect she deserved, her concerns were met with derision. 

Despite the bar owner claiming that no one cared about this clearly blasphemous display of religious artifacts, he asked her to remove an entry she made under the bar at a public site allowing comment on establishments.

As he berated our friend, the proprietor insisted as an argument to justify his sacrilege and disrespect for Catholic sacramentals, that there were even Bishops and priests who thought that his blasphemous inclusion of religious articles was comical and that there was nothing wrong with this display.

Apparently, there's some truth to what he says, because Catholic clergy, including senior, does frequent this place.

We'll be praying a Rosary in reparation for having seen this blasphemy.  Hopefully, the proprietor can be persuaded to part with these items before word of this affects his business either spiritually or financially.


Give them a call:

Corner of Fleet & Washington Sts.
Fell's Point
Baltimore, MD.
21231
410-276-2044


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: bar; md; sacramentals
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1 posted on 03/26/2012 1:38:40 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/26/2012 1:39:35 PM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: NYer

Doesn’t the bible say something about idol worship? Cups are cups and only have meaning if you make them into something more than they are.


3 posted on 03/26/2012 1:47:51 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: NYer
[1] Some countries have laws to punish blasphemy,[2] while others have laws to give recourse to those who are offended by blasphemy.

Do you wish for such laws in the US?

4 posted on 03/26/2012 2:00:55 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: NYer; lightman; SF_Redux

Ping to this...


5 posted on 03/26/2012 2:02:46 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: NYer

It’s Maryland, whaddaya expect?


6 posted on 03/26/2012 2:06:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (obamacare is an oxymoron.)
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To: NYer

I have friends in the SCA, they drink from chalices all the time. There’s nothing innately religion about chalices. And I’m not seeing “malevolent” mustached smiley. I think what this really is is a bar with a cute name.


7 posted on 03/26/2012 2:08:04 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: NYer

Daniel Chapter 5


8 posted on 03/26/2012 2:10:39 PM PDT by Deepest South
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To: for-q-clinton
Doesn’t the bible say something about idol worship? Cups are cups and only have meaning if you make them into something more than they are.

Then the Ark of the Covenant is an idol by your logic.

The Lord also spoke about not giving what is Holy to dogs. The word "consecrated" is also in the Bible. Just some thoughts.

9 posted on 03/26/2012 2:19:38 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: NYer

The smiley face is the national bohemean beer guy:

http://nationalbohemian.com/

there is nothing malevolent about him.

I do think it’s very wrong to use holy things in a sacriligous way though.


10 posted on 03/26/2012 2:19:40 PM PDT by Ham Hock
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To: Ken H

I would be the last person to want more ‘laws’ for anything..

But it would be nice to know that if a bunch of ‘adults’ or their parents walked in and said “aren’t you ashamed of yourself for this?” that they would be.


11 posted on 03/26/2012 2:29:39 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: for-q-clinton

The word chalice appears 24 times in Scripture. The word ignorance appears 23 times. Two facts you most likely are unaware of.


12 posted on 03/26/2012 2:37:39 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: wagglebee; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Moral outrage ping.


13 posted on 03/26/2012 2:47:48 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: NYer
I can see the "hand writing on the wall"...

Dan 5:1-6 Belshazzar's Feast
Belshazzar the king held a great (1)feast for a thousand of his nobles, and he was drinking wine in the presence of the thousand. (2) When Belshazzar tasted the wine, he gave orders to bring the gold and silver (2)vessels which Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them. (3) Then they brought the gold vessels that had been taken out of the temple, the house of God which was in Jerusalem; and the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines drank from them. (4) They (3)drank the wine and praised the gods of (4)gold and silver, of bronze, iron, wood and stone. (5) Suddenly the fingers of a man's hand emerged and began writing opposite the lampstand on the plaster of the wall of the king's palace, and the king saw the back of the hand that did the writing. (6) Then the king's (5)face grew pale and his thoughts alarmed him, and his (6)hip joints went slack and his (7)knees began knocking together.

14 posted on 03/26/2012 3:12:01 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: frogjerk

Yes if we made fake arks and worshipped them...then yes that is an idol. This is like the Muslims getting upset and violent over Mohamed’s picture.


15 posted on 03/26/2012 3:26:31 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Are you suggesting that only Christians who believe the chalice is some form of super powerful cup should be allowed to drink from them?

Getting outraged over this is what the Muslims do.


16 posted on 03/26/2012 3:30:36 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Ham Hock
The smiley face is the national bohemean beer guy: http://nationalbohemian.com/ there is nothing malevolent about him.

Apparently you've never had a Natty Boh!

17 posted on 03/26/2012 3:32:51 PM PDT by GnL
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To: NYer; discostu

Most Catholics know that religious items such as a monstrance or chalicess can NOT be sold. They can be put away and then given to a mission church is Asia, South America, Africa — even here in the U. S.

Same with vestments and other religious articles. They cannot be sold.

They are blessed and sacred because of the proper use of them.

So my question of the bar owner is — how did he/she get ahold of them in the first place?

What is happening there is sacreligious and blasphemous.


18 posted on 03/26/2012 3:40:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: for-q-clinton

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2864099/posts?page=18#18


19 posted on 03/26/2012 3:43:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

They’re for sale alright.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=monstrance

All that kind of stuff has always been pretty easy to buy even before the internet. Just gotta put some effort into it.


20 posted on 03/26/2012 3:44:49 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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