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To: Morgana

Perhaps the Catholic schools in Canada will have to stop taking Canadian government money so that they can teach Catholic doctrine in its entirety, without the interference of pro-homosex government ministers.


5 posted on 04/04/2012 9:02:54 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare
Perhaps the Catholic schools in Canada will have to stop taking Canadian government money so that they can teach Catholic doctrine in its entirety, without the interference of pro-homosex government ministers.

You hit the nail on the head.
Amoral people (like Member of Provincial Parliament Glen Murray) will continue to preach their own brand of morality and the heck with Jesus' 2000 year old Catholic Church so the Catholic Church in Canada better get off the public nipple and charge tuition. People usually appreciate things they pay for anyway.

8 posted on 04/04/2012 9:28:20 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ottbmare
Perhaps the Catholic schools in Canada will have to stop taking Canadian government money so that they can teach Catholic doctrine in its entirety, without the interference of pro-homosex government ministers.

Ontario Catholics are better off keeping the current arrangement, while fighting the occasional skirmish. From Wikipedia concerning "Separate Schools":

In Canada, the term separate school refers to a particular type of school that has constitutional status in three provinces (Ontario, Alberta and Saskatchewan) ... . In these Canadian jurisdictions, a separate school is one operated by a civil authority, a separate school board, with a mandate enshrined in the Canadian Constitution (for the three provinces) ... . In these ... jurisdictions a civil electorate, composed of the members of the minority faith, elects separate school trustees according to the province's ... local authorities election legislation. These trustees are legally accountable to their electorate and to the provincial ... government. No church has a constitutional, legal, or proprietary interest in a separate school. Consequently, a separate school is not a parochial or private school, or a charter school.

The constitutionally provided mandate of a separate school jurisdiction and of a separate school is to provide education in a school setting that the separate school board considers reflective of Roman Catholic (or, rarely, Protestant) theology, doctrine, and practices. This mandate can manifest itself in the Program of Studies and the curriculum, exercises and practices, and staffing. The limits of this mandate are determined by the application of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and judicial decisions.

The different experience in Ontario as compared to Alberta and Saskatchewan is principally the result of the same constitutional provisions having effect on settlement at different stages in Canadian history.

The Constitution of Canada does not establish separate school education as a natural or unconditional right available to all. Only Protestants or Roman Catholics, whichever is the minority faith population compared to the other in a community, can consider the establishment of separate school education. The separate school establishment right is not available to citizens of any other faith (such as Jews, or Mormons, or Hindus, or Muslims). In addition, the minority faith must establish that they wish to leave the public school system and create a separate school system.

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The Constitution Act, 1867, provides that education is a matter of exclusive provincial jurisdiction, subject to the requirement that provincial laws relating to education must respect the rights to denominational and separate schools held by religious minorities prior to Confederation. The relevant provision for Ontario is s. 93(1) of the Constitution Act, 1867 as originally enacted.[1] For Alberta and Saskatchewan, the relevant provision is s. 93(1), as amended by the Alberta Act[2] and the Saskatchewan Act,[3] respectively.

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School boards funded by the Province (of Ontario) consist of 29 English Catholic and 8 French Catholic boards, as well as 35 non-denominational public school boards (31 English public, 4 French public). There is ... one Protestant separate school jurisdiction in Ontario, the Burkevale Protestant Separate School, operated by the Penetanguishene Protestant Separate School Board. In Ontario, this determination was largely made throughout the province by the time of Confederation.

The public school system in the province was historically Protestant but was gradually transformed into a secular public system. Prayer in public schools was discontinued in the early 1980s.

Since the 19th century, funding for the Roman Catholic separate school system was provided up to Grade 10 under the British North America (BNA) Act. In 1984 the government of Premier William Davis extended full funding to include the last three (Grades 11–13 (OAC)) years of Roman Catholic secondary schools after having rejected that proposal fifteen years earlier. The first funded academic year occurred in 1985–86, as grade 11, and one grade was added in each of the next two years.

The right to have a publicly-funded separate denominational school system continues to be guaranteed by Section 93 of the 1982 Constitution Act to Roman Catholics in Ontario.[7]

A province-wide newspaper survey conducted between 1997 and 1999 in 45 dailies indicated that 79% of 7551 respondents in Ontario favoured a single public school system, but no widely supported movement to amend the Constitution Act, 1867 has developed.

The issue later came up in the Ontario general election, 2007; however no changes to the law have been made as of May 2011.

10 posted on 04/04/2012 9:50:30 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: ottbmare
Perhaps the Catholic schools in Canada will have to stop taking Canadian government money so that they can teach Catholic doctrine in its entirety, without the interference of pro-homosex government ministers.

You expect that when Catholic schools stop taking government money they will be left alone? Dream on. The intrinsically disordered will use the power of government to suppress everywhere and in every way those who continue to tell the truth, to call them intrinsically disordered.
21 posted on 04/05/2012 6:15:46 AM PDT by Cheburashka (It's legal to be out at night in spacesuits, even carrying a rag dolly. Cops hauled us in anyway.)
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To: ottbmare

There’s a thought. Canadian Catholics can serve God or they can serve Mamon. They cannot serve both.


30 posted on 04/06/2012 4:43:26 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ottbmare

From the article:

“The right of Ontario’s Catholic schools to receive public funding while imparting the Catholic faith is guaranteed under Canada’s Constitution.”


31 posted on 04/06/2012 5:06:01 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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