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“The Catholic Church is still to blame”
Cal Catholic ^ | 4/6/2012

Posted on 04/06/2012 2:28:27 AM PDT by markomalley

Today at 5:30 p.m. members of “ACT UP” and other anti-Catholic groups have announced they will descend on San Francisco’s Mission Dolores Church and place ashes from AIDS victims on the landmark church’s steps to protest what they claim is the complicity of the Catholic Church in the deadly epidemic.

Mission Dolores was founded on June 29, 1776, the feast of Saints Peter and Paul, by Franciscan friars under the leadership of the Fr. Francisco Palou and the direction of Fr. Junipero Serra. It is the oldest Catholic church in the Archdiocese of San Francisco, and the oldest building in San Francisco. In addition, the mission is “the oldest original intact Mission in California,” according to the church’s website. The parish includes Mission Dolores Basilica and the Old Mission.

An event listing on the LGBTQI/Queer page of San Francisco’s IndyBay Media, a radical leftist website, reads, in part:

“The march will link the issues of gentrification and lack of affordable housing faced by people with HIV/AIDS and our communities today by starting at Wells Fargo, a major profiteer of the housing crisis. The march will continue to the steps of Mission Dolores Church, marking Good Friday and protesting the Catholic Church's continued role of condemning people to die of AIDS globally and repression of sexual freedom and health here at home -- by blocking access to condoms, and restricting access to reproductive health and abortion. Ashes of those who died during the epidemic in SF will be placed on the steps of Dolores Church… Its [sic] 25 years since we started ACT UP and the Catholic Church is still to blame.”

(Excerpt) Read more at calcatholic.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
The Catholic Church is to blame because of these perverts' inability to control themselves?

OK, sure, why not...the Catholic Church is to blame for everything else, why not this?

1 posted on 04/06/2012 2:28:32 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

A waterhose will wash it into the gutter.


2 posted on 04/06/2012 2:45:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: markomalley

Rosie o’donut’s fork


3 posted on 04/06/2012 2:52:10 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: markomalley

You can’t sue the guy who sells you your amyl, nor the anonymous man you just barebacked.


4 posted on 04/06/2012 2:54:37 AM PDT by steve8714 (The answer, surprisingly, is Carnahan.)
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To: markomalley

Aids became a deadly epidemic because liberals had removed the laws against homosexual acts and the perverts went wild spreading it around like candy......


5 posted on 04/06/2012 2:57:25 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: markomalley
The "I have AIDS and it's your FAULT" crowd is back - I guess an election is coming near.

And then people wonder why Islam is spreading.

6 posted on 04/06/2012 3:03:06 AM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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To: markomalley

These “Act Up” should read the books of Acts.

“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Acts 2:21)

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12)

The book of Judges ends with: “In those days there was no king in Israel; and every man did that which was right in his own eyes.” Judges 21:25)

Isaiah 1:18 reads: “Come let us reason together, saith the LORD........”

“For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience shall many be made righteous.” (Romans 5:19)

“For He[God]hath made Him[Jesus]to be sin for us who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21)

“How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard Him;” (Hebrews 2:3)


7 posted on 04/06/2012 3:19:03 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: markomalley

I cannot understand the “logic”. Anyone following the teachings of the Church can be assured of never getting AIDS.


8 posted on 04/06/2012 3:25:21 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: markomalley

So I am to believe they have been saving up ashes of people who died of AIDS? Sure.
They are blaming the organization that tells them not to do what they do to get aids. The Catholic church could close down tomorrow and the rate of AIDS would not change at all.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 3:28:19 AM PDT by Seabeejas (h)
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To: Seabeejas

>>>So I am to believe they have been saving up ashes of people who died of AIDS?>>>

And how many people have been saved from AIDS by following the teaching of the Catholic Church? Or any other Christian church?

In other words, they’re saying, “I have AIDS because I couldn’t follow Christian teaching and I need someone else to blame.”


10 posted on 04/06/2012 3:43:13 AM PDT by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: markomalley
Homosexuality is a mental disease and these kinds of violations of logic prove it.

Homosexuality should be cured - then AIDS will never be a problem again.

11 posted on 04/06/2012 4:05:12 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: markomalley

aids is 98% preventable.... do not have unprotected anal sex and do not share needles.... personal choice (unless an infected person has sex with an uninfected person) and then protection will virtually eliminate the chance of infection...if these two simple things were done, aids would be wiped off the face of the earth in less than a generation..


12 posted on 04/06/2012 4:08:43 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: markomalley

Plus, I fail to see how even the deluded minds of the gay leftists managed to work “access to abortion” into their AIDS related complaints.

But abortion is the sacrament of the left, so I guess it sort of makes sense in a way.


13 posted on 04/06/2012 4:13:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: markomalley
With their logic I am sure they must blame Jesus of Nazareth for the failings of Judas Iscariot.

How do these people get to this point in their thinking? It certainly isn't because they follow the teachings of the church.

14 posted on 04/06/2012 4:25:32 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kitkat
Bingo!

Have a blessed Triduum.

15 posted on 04/06/2012 4:28:06 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: markomalley

want to see smoke come out of their ears in anger? Mention the fact that circumcision in Africa cuts HIV transmission.

Then mention that public health studies show that condoms don’t work to decrease the HIV rate in Africa, but that anti retro viral medicines do, because it cuts down the number of viruses in the bloodstream so people are no longer infectious.

And then, for good measure, mention that a lot of Catholic hospitals are involved in giving out these retroviral medicines (including the nuns in the hospital where I once worked) and that it was president Bush that made giving out these anti HIV medicines a priority and pushed the funding.


16 posted on 04/06/2012 4:31:45 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: markomalley

We think alike- I guess the Scriptures are right we are one body ,guided by one Spirit-serving One God. Though I am not a Catholic— I linked to the full story and commented there much as you did here. Those that are of the flesh cannot understand the things of the Spirit. Those caught in that web of homosexual deceit are blinded by their choice of sin over life.And will blame the church for their own choice to rebel against God.


17 posted on 04/06/2012 4:42:05 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: markomalley

The same folks who claim that AIDS is not a gay disease still cling to it as a core issue.


18 posted on 04/06/2012 4:51:15 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Aids became a deadly epidemic because liberals had removed the laws against homosexual acts and the perverts went wild spreading it around like candy......

I would say that AIDS became such an epidemic because liberals NORMALIZED homosexuality and its sexual mores (sodomy) with the added fuel of drugs.
I always wondered why that particular group of people, young homosexual men, NEEDED all the drugs if their "lifestyle" (anonymous, promiscuous fornication a la sodomy) was now the norm. Truth be known, they KNEW it was wrong and needed all the drugs and booze to do it. They sure paid the price.

19 posted on 04/06/2012 5:58:02 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: LadyDoc
want to see smoke come out of their ears in anger? Mention the fact that circumcision in Africa cuts HIV transmission.
Then mention that public health studies show that condoms don’t work to decrease the HIV rate in Africa, but that anti retro viral medicines do, because it cuts down the number of viruses in the bloodstream so people are no longer infectious.
And then, for good measure, mention that a lot of Catholic hospitals are involved in giving out these retroviral medicines (including the nuns in the hospital where I once worked) and that it was president Bush that made giving out these anti HIV medicines a priority and pushed the funding.

So right.
One might add that the AIDS in Africa is in the heterosexual population, passed on via women prostitutes.
And, that drug addicts aren't the issue either.

The Catholic Church is also the driving force behind hospices here in the USA, hospices ALSO for the PARENTS of the dying men who come to be with the sons with AIDS.
These hospices that provide the final meals for the men say that they want the meals they grew up with: meat loaf, beef stew--back to their innocent youth.
All very sad to see people living with the consequences of their sins. It's not new but still sad.

20 posted on 04/06/2012 6:06:39 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: markomalley

My response:

It is YOUR behavior that causes the spread of AIDS.

It is not my unwillingness to make your behavior safer.

What you are really demanding is that I endorse your behavior, by promoting the use of condoms.


21 posted on 04/06/2012 6:33:33 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: markomalley

If there is any Justice in this country there should be enough Police to arrest everyone of these sick perverts.
They hae no one to blame but themselves.


22 posted on 04/06/2012 7:03:20 AM PDT by chatham
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To: cloudmountain

You are absolutely correct. I might also add that institutions that are directly affiliated with the Catholic Church and supported by the Catholic Church are the largest care providers of HIV and AIDS in the world.

But it certainly is an inconvenient fact for those who wish to bash the Church.


23 posted on 04/06/2012 8:03:17 AM PDT by Kanrok
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To: Kanrok
You are absolutely correct. I might also add that institutions that are directly affiliated with the Catholic Church and supported by the Catholic Church are the largest care providers of HIV and AIDS in the world.
But it certainly is an inconvenient fact for those who wish to bash the Church.

All true.
The Catholic Church also provides for the homeless, alcohol/drug addicts, unwed mothers, needy elderly, poor, sick helpless elderly, homeless shelters (99% men usually), the ill and terminally ill with no place to go and so on. The St. Martin de Porres places provide end-of-life support: hospice, death and burial for the indigent. Anyone in need can find help with the Church.

The non-Catholic media and organizations simply IGNORE all the work of the Church. Some cities rely SO much on the Catholic Church for this help that city coffers open up for Church help.
Sometimes cities simply don't have the resources: shelters, meals (St. Anthony's kitchens), beds, clothing, job resources...and the help that sometimes is the most necessary: hope, an ear to listen and a heart to console others less fortunate.

24 posted on 04/06/2012 12:05:29 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: markomalley

-—The Catholic Church is to blame because of these perverts’ inability to control themselves?-—

I admit, the logic is a little difficult to follow.


25 posted on 04/06/2012 12:20:49 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: markomalley

So the Catholic Church is to blame for AIDS?

Oy,vey.


26 posted on 04/06/2012 6:26:54 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you,Pumpkin. You are the best cat in the world. You're my Sweet Pea.)
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To: markomalley

I thought we Jews were to blame.

Everything else has been pinned on us.


27 posted on 04/06/2012 6:28:24 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you,Pumpkin. You are the best cat in the world. You're my Sweet Pea.)
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