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The on-coming Romney onslaught against Christian conservatives [VANITY]

Posted on 04/08/2012 8:37:38 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon

You watch, Romney's campaign is going to throw allegations of religious bigotry at Christian conservatives like you can't believe.

Let me tell you something. The Romney people have some of the best political consultants in the country and they don't get there because they're always wonderful people. The RINO/GOPe are tough. They're very tough. We saw how they undermined Governor Palin during the last election, and the scorched earth policy they carried out against Romney's primary opponents who were conservative or Christian. I've worked with some of them on other campaigns, they're the best there is in the business. And there is nothing they won't do.

Already, Senator Hatch is accusing Christian conservatives of being Obama operatives.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christian; election; mormon; romney
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Your post really takes ridiculous conspiracy mongering to a whole new level.

The tiny fraction of the population of Americans that are Mormon isn’t even close to enough to win national elections on their own. Romney, and any future Republican Mormon running for national office, NEEDS the evangelical vote to even have a possibility of winning. There is zero chance Romney is going to attack Christians, Christianity, evangelicals, Catholics, etc. It’s just not going to happen.

I’ve come to the conclusion that what all this Mormon bashing and Mormon hysteria is about is simply that they dare call themselves Christian. That’s whats really stuck in some peoples craw. If Mormons called themselves something else many of the people wailing and moaning of the insidious danger of LDS would treat it as just another wrong religion and largely move on. This is all just because Mormons consider themselves Christian.


41 posted on 04/09/2012 5:39:57 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon
The on-coming Romney onslaught against Christian conservatives [VANITY]

"Yeah, I'm going to launch an onslaught against the one group without which I'll never win the presidency."
42 posted on 04/09/2012 5:40:23 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: mlizzy

Thanks. I AM quite aware of the history and beliefs of Mormons. ;-)


43 posted on 04/09/2012 6:25:13 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
I will state again, the very foundation of mormoniam is anti-Christian.

You need to learn about it.

For you to assert that Romney will not attack Christians is what is rediculous, he already has by the very basis of what he ascribes to as a faith.

It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men....If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,” ( Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670)

“What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world” - Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

“With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world.” - Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8

“What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast.” - Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

“Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon’ whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent.” - Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

You seriously need to learn about mormonism if you think will not continue this line of teaching and practice.

44 posted on 04/09/2012 6:51:05 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Longbow1969

There is no mormon bashing, it is exposing mormonISM.
If mormons didn’t refer to themselves as Christians you might be correct.
Referring to themselves as Christians is actually a new event, before several decades ago, they bristled at the thought of being referred to as such.
SLC lds is desperate to be viewed as mainstream, they are not.
mormonism is not Christianity, and it should be called Christian.


45 posted on 04/09/2012 6:56:39 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Richard from IL

Romney does not need religious conservatives. He knows they will never vote for Obama, so he has no problem with their sitting on the sideline.

He’s going after the moderate vote, anyway, because the liberal vote constitutes only 20% of the electorate.


46 posted on 04/09/2012 7:03:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: svcw

Allow me to repeat something which I have previously posted:

Thanks. I AM quite aware of the history and beliefs of Mormons. ;-)


47 posted on 04/09/2012 7:06:18 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Dude. You are a nut. Maybe even a troll.


48 posted on 04/09/2012 7:08:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

This thread certainly has brought out the Romney-bots.


49 posted on 04/09/2012 7:11:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SumProVita

If you are familiar with mormonism history and doctrine, why then do you seem insistent on saying Romney will not attack Christians?
The foundation and beyond of mormonism are attacks on Christians/Jews.
Romney has nearly destroyed several vocal and unashamed Christians in this presidential race alone. Romney has nearly destroyed several vocal and unashamed Christians stopping them from getting into this race at all.
The ones who hid their faith, he has ignored.


50 posted on 04/09/2012 7:14:33 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Please give me a substantive list of attacks on Christians that Romney is responsible for.

PS As a Christian, I understand that what Mormons believe is NOT Christianity. However, to launch a religious type of attack on Romney is counter-productive to defeating Obama and can make conservatives seem ignorant and/or bigoted. Leave the attack on religion with the liberals, who openly practice such.


51 posted on 04/09/2012 7:25:08 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon
Sarah Palin said it--Anybody but O.

Romney is just a politician. He might not have a moral objection to individual mandates, but would he ram it down America's throat against 70% opposition? No.

He might be skeered of guns, but would he shoot himself in the foot by trying to reinstitute the assault weapon ban? I doubt it. And I doubt he'd turn on the biggest base in the republican party, ie the Christians especially evangelicals.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Romney fan and I'll have to hold my nose to vote for him assuming he gets nominated. I'd love to vote for a true, moral, real conservative, but in the end I'd prefer just about anybody to the marxist in chief. Romney sucks, but Obama sucks a hell of a lot more.

52 posted on 04/09/2012 7:30:43 AM PDT by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: dfwgator
I saw an exchange between two freepers (can't remember who), one said he would vote for Romney if he got nominated. The other freeper called him a sunshine patriot, and the first one retorted that he is a practical patriot.

People are not Romnet-bots for wanting to get rid of Obama. Look around! Will this country survive another obama term? Zero has big plans in store. No more conservatives on the radio perhaps? 'Hate speeh' after all. No more 'hate speech' on the 'net, ie no more FR? Maybe see about having the second amendment taken out, somehow someway?

Zero has big plans. Thats for sure. Our primary concern MUST be to get him out!

53 posted on 04/09/2012 7:41:38 AM PDT by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: mplsconservative; NorthernCrunchyCon
Welcome to FR. Have some more granola, Crunchy. I’m no Romney fan but he’s a slight bit better that your 0bamabot.

No one wants obama, but there is a very real reason that romney will never be president.

Have you done any serious research on him and his background? When the truth comes out it will destroy his chances in an election amongst both convervatives and socialists alike.

When the left attacks romney, all they will need is the truth packed into hundreds of 30 second sound bytes.

And there will be nothing anyone can do to counter those truths, even with the crap obama has done, people will turn away from romney like the plague.

If the GOP runs romney this election is already over.

54 posted on 04/09/2012 8:00:23 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: NakedRampage
Romney sucks, but Obama sucks a hell of a lot more.

We don't know that yet...They are both shooting for the same destination...They are just taking different roads to get us there...

We and the country are screwed either way...

55 posted on 04/09/2012 8:09:58 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Of course Mitt or his surrogates won’t openly declare a war against Christians before the November election. He needs them to beat Obama. However, his people have been fighting and sabotaging Christians like Governor Palin behind-the-scenes since 2008 presidential election:

http://spectator.org/archives/2008/10/27/post-defeat-planners

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2126515/posts

Romney is one of the reasons Obama was elected in the first place.


56 posted on 04/09/2012 8:17:58 AM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Christ is risen!)
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To: NakedRampage

“People are not Romnet-bots for wanting to get rid of Obama. Look around! Will this country survive another obama term? Zero has big plans in store. No more conservatives on the radio perhaps? ‘Hate speeh’ after all. No more ‘hate speech’ on the ‘net, ie no more FR? Maybe see about having the second amendment taken out, somehow someway?”

You raise a good point with regards to accusing conservatives of hate speech. My response is to look at the U.K. and Canada. Most of the attacks by government agencies accusing conservatives of hate speech have come from lefty activists appointed by CINO politicians.

For instance, Alberta is considered Canada’s most conservative province. The conservative party has ruled there for the past 30 years with huge majority governments. (Although that’s about to change in a couple weeks when the Tea Party-like Wildrose Alliance topples the RINO/GOPe-like Progressive Conservative Party).

However, when the party got taken over by CINOs acting like liberals, Christian pastor Stephen Boisson and Jewish conservative political commentator Ezra Levant found themselves hauled before the quasi-judicial Alberta Human Rights Commission - the former for criticizing same-sex marriage, and the latter for republishing Danish cartoons of Mohamed in a national conservative magazine. Both of these individuals were forced to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to defend themselves against lefty government activists appointed by CINO politicians.


57 posted on 04/09/2012 8:41:07 AM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Christ is risen!)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon
The entire republican leadership plus romney and even Bush are responsible... and karl rove... do not forget his part in this... and he is working for romney behind the scenes and he has been.

LLS

58 posted on 04/09/2012 9:46:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: EternalVigilance
Your definition of what a conservative is and mine are obviously different.

Your definition of a "conservative" is you.

Your definition of "liberals" is politicians, especially if they're Republicans.

Isn't that right EternalMegalomania?

59 posted on 04/09/2012 11:56:42 AM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Chunga

Troll.


60 posted on 04/09/2012 11:57:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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