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The nasty taint of porn [Less than 5 years ago, Lds church-owned paper took Romney to task]
Deseret News [owned by Mormon church] ^ | July 10, 2007

Posted on 04/12/2012 4:13:59 AM PDT by Colofornian

Pornography taints everything it touches. Mitt Romney should have understood that. So should the Marriott Corp. and other hotel owners who offer hard-core movies in hotel rooms.

Romney caught a bit of flack...because he spent nearly 10 years on the Marriott board and yet never tried to reverse the company's policy of providing pornography on demand, something J.W. "Bill" Marriott Jr., defended in a 2000 letter as being economically important...

For a presidential candidate who has railed against pornography, this is not entirely insignificant. Even if the subject never came up at a board meeting, one can argue that at least part of the $25,000 plus stock he was paid annually for his board membership came from the money some hotel guests paid for access to the films.

Make no mistake about pornography's influence on society. A recent report from the American Psychological Association drew strong ties between pornography's pervasive influence and the "sexualization" of girls and women. This, the report said, has resulted in greater societal sexism; "fewer girls pursuing careers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics; increased rates of sexual harassment and sexual violence; and an increased demand for child pornography."

Romney seemed to understand this when he told graduates at the Christian-owned Regent University that pornography poisons "our music and movies and TV and video games."

But it is indeed lucrative.

Interestingly, several hotel chains have decided to forego the extra money out of a sense of moral obligation. The Web site cleanhotels.com helps travelers locate these. The site includes what it calls, "The Clean Hotels Pledge."...

That lasting negative effect can be like the stains you get from playing with a barrel of paint. Even if you don't like the color, it tells the tale of where you've been.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: History; Moral Issues; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: inman; lds; mittromney; moralabsolutes; mormon; pornography
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To: Colofornian

Obama will use this against Romney if Willard is the candidate chosen by the GOP.


23 posted on 04/12/2012 9:56:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: greyfoxx39; Bartholomew Roberts
The porn at Mariott and other mainstream hotels is not “hard-core” porn. It is an edited down porn that doesn’t contain the most graphic images contained in true hard-core stuff. [Barthomolew Roberts]

How does one become an expert on porn? And why would one advertise the fact? [greyfoxx39]

Exactly.

That must have been a LOT of 1-night stands with a remote controller in thousands of Marriott hotel rooms over 20 years to determine that kind of authoritative experiential "distinction"

This whole Romney smut enterprise and its apparent customers -- like commentators we see in here = paying Marriott for the right to be a peeping tom while Marriott passed on these payments to pimps who filmed prostitutes. It's tantamount to voyeur employment of prostitutes.

24 posted on 04/12/2012 10:02:04 AM PDT by Colofornian ( It's not even 'conservative convictions' be damned anymore; they've ALREADY BEEN anathematized.)
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To: Elsie
We can march on RNC Headquarters (whereever it is) and throw the bums (whoever they are) OUT!

Go for it! Keep me posted on all your successes in removing Romney! I'm sure Colofornian will be glad to loan you his Westboro signs for your protests (if you don't already have your own set.)

25 posted on 04/12/2012 10:09:56 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Colofornian
It only takes one second of clear, conscious thought and an understanding of words and reality - not 20 years and a remote.

I might suggest you not attempt to warp reality to fit your own ends. It is not very becoming for a supposed Christian. And it makes you look like a zealot and a buffoon.

How many definitional quotes will you need?

Hardcore film makers will sometimes make edited softcore versions of their films for the hotel pay-per-view market, cutting in less explicit angles of the sex scenes.[6] ^ Martin Amis (2001-03-17). "A rough trade". guardian.co.uk. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4153718,00.html. Retrieved 2009-04-10.

26 posted on 04/12/2012 10:35:32 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Bartholomew Roberts; greyfoxx39
From your quote: Hardcore film makers will SOMETIMES make edited softcore versions...

Well, I've got a choice here:

I can either think that you intentionally skew quotes to fit your previous authoritative answer...

Why go there? Surely you know what the word "sometimes" means...You wouldn't use a "sometimes" qualified statement to justify your rather authoritative comment issued earlier, would you?

I don't think so. I think you're too smart for that.

So...if this quote still can't justify your earlier rather authoritative statement...what choice do you leave us but to yield to your experiential authority???

(Of course, you can always retract your authoritative statement as not being as authoritative as you pretended...either way, your FR rep's not whatever it was when you entered into this thread...which is what happens when people first pretend to be an "expert" on Hotel porn -- and then use spurious "sometimes" comments to backtrack & try to justify their earlier "expert witness" status)

27 posted on 04/12/2012 10:52:32 AM PDT by Colofornian ( It's not even 'conservative convictions' be damned anymore; they've ALREADY BEEN anathematized.)
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To: Colofornian

Beat me to it, lol. Sound experienced to me.


28 posted on 04/12/2012 11:01:46 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: Colofornian
ROFL. SIC em! good response.

It went from "EXPERT" to "SOMETIMES EXPERT", does that work? Then that would lead to a "SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW WHAT I"M TALKING ABOUT", can the three of them be one and the same? hmmmm, just curious.

Which will eventually lead to "WHAT THE HECK possessed me to make a comment in the first place? ROFL.

29 posted on 04/12/2012 11:11:32 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: Colofornian
You are as bad at grammar as you are with the facts.

Since not all of the pornographers' films are made into softcore for the hotel trade, sometimes their films are made into softcore.

Of course you can read that but are trying to obfuscate.

Get over it.

30 posted on 04/12/2012 11:33:09 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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31 posted on 04/12/2012 12:43:17 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
I earned an undergrad BA in Journalism/Photojournalism from University of Kentucky;

NOW I understand!

32 posted on 04/12/2012 2:56:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
might suggest you not attempt to warp reality to fit your own ends.

(Should I?????)

Nah...

Sometimes ya just gotta let them softballs go right on by...

33 posted on 04/12/2012 2:58:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Wow, I didn’t think you were bright enough to get that.

Congratulations!


34 posted on 04/12/2012 3:07:26 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
Wow, I didn’t think you were bright enough to get that.

You seem to be doing a lot of that lately...

35 posted on 04/12/2012 4:21:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ConservativeDude
In any event, Forbes did the principled thing (perhaps for political reasons, but still, he took a stand).

Well, you see, you need principles to be able to make this kind of decision. Romney...?

36 posted on 04/12/2012 4:25:26 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Elsie

I have to go back to my original post and go from there.

You and your buddy seem to think you can state (or worse yet - proclaim) that I am wrong in my statements that mainsteam hotel chains do not show hardcore pornography.

They do not.

I have provided a source that proves my point but it was distorted in replies. I can provide 5 additional sources. I can provide 10 additional sources.

You cannot provide any sources that mainsteam hotel chains do show hardcore pornography.

You can throw all the insults and Bible passages you can conjure up but it doesn’t change the facts.

I have thought through and described the truth clearly. Your powers of understanding are just not up to the task.


37 posted on 04/12/2012 4:50:23 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
Your powers of understanding are just not up to the task.

Uh...

What was the definition of HARDCORE again??

38 posted on 04/12/2012 7:38:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
Great comparison table! Abortion is an issue that MOST Evangelicals as well as Conservative Catholics say holds a major place in their decision for whom to vote. That Romney AND his wife think they can lie and obfuscate their way into the election only shows what little regard they have for the intelligence and values of those they say they represent. I will NOT vote for anyone who doesn't grasp the right-to-life as THE preeminent right or who only pretends to hold to that understanding. If they will lie about that, they will lie about ANYTHING!
39 posted on 04/12/2012 10:03:12 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Elsie

Dear Ask Tommy

There are a few deletions in this thread.

Do the Mormon porn gods know why ???

Puzzled in Provo
_______________________________________

Dear P in P

I have referred your excellent query to the resident expert Elsie

Ask Tommy


40 posted on 04/18/2012 5:44:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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