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pleaseconvinceme.com ^ | 14 April 2012 | Staff

Posted on 04/14/2012 4:41:03 AM PDT by plenipotentiary

Given the depth and breadth of the cumulative circumstantial and direct physical evidence related to the timing of the Mormon movement, the character and motive of Joseph Smith, the manner in which Smith claimed to find and translate the Book of Mormon, the errant and peculiar characteristics of the Book of Mormon and the true and contradictory translation of the Book of Abraham, there is more than enough reason to conclude that Joseph Smith was a fraud and that the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction.

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How can people have a candidate for the US Presidency that believes all this stuff, and is a Bishop in their church?
1 posted on 04/14/2012 4:41:12 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: plenipotentiary

We got Willard!
We got mittens.
Whoopie
do.

We got screwed.


2 posted on 04/14/2012 4:44:08 AM PDT by Flintlock (Picture ID for ALL voting. Let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: plenipotentiary
We will have to choose between a Muzzie/Socialist/Marxist/Communist/Black Liberation “Christian”, I will choose the Mormon every time.

At least the Mormons are in the business of sending people to Hell, and not mass killings.

3 posted on 04/14/2012 4:47:58 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: plenipotentiary

Haven’t we heard this enough? No one here wants Romney, so why keep preaching to the choir?


4 posted on 04/14/2012 4:50:35 AM PDT by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: Coldwater Creek

Why choose a Mormon as Republican candidate in the first place?


5 posted on 04/14/2012 4:51:50 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: stuartcr

No-one has taken this issue head on. These guys believe in a fraudulent set of books. Might as well have someone who believes in fairies at the bottom of the garden.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 4:54:44 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary
There's plenty wrong with Romney.

I can't get worked up about him being mormon, however. My problem is that he's a moron.

7 posted on 04/14/2012 5:16:25 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: plenipotentiary

Do you believe that you should only vote for a Christian?

So Mormons have strange beliefs, what about Hindu’s and Buddhists? They also have some ideas that may seem pretty strange to some. Should they be disqualified as an option for Christian voters in your mind? You know the nation is becoming more and more diverse and it is only a matter of time before people of all manner of faiths are running as Republicans throughout the country.

Would you rather vote for a liberal Christian or a conservative Hindu? How about a far left “progressive” Christian (and there are many that do exist that believe the bible commands us to their version of social justice) or a conservative atheist?

Or is this anti-Mormon stuff that gets posted so much really just a bunch of griping that Mormons call themselves Christian?

I really don’t care that Willard is a Mormon. My issue with him is that he isn’t a conservative. And yet, he is the nominee. So we’ve got a Mormon chameleon who MIGHT be a trainwreck as President versus a far leftwing socialist who we KNOW will be a disaster the next 4 years. Romney’s Mormonism simply doesn’t enter into the equation for me.


8 posted on 04/14/2012 6:07:51 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Bravo. What you said!


9 posted on 04/14/2012 6:10:55 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: Longbow1969

Excellent post, Longbow!
GD loves’Mormons and Romney is better than Obama!


10 posted on 04/14/2012 6:15:00 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: plenipotentiary

This is why I quit listening to Glen Beck. This is not about refusing to vote for a non Christian.

This is about questionong the intellect and judgment of anyone (including Romeny and Beck) who can take Joseph Smith’s manmade Golden-tablet-angel-Moroni’s polygamous religion seriously.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 6:19:58 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

Bingo. The fact they fell for a deranged huckster like JY tells me they will fall for ANYTHING. Oh, and lie about it as well.


12 posted on 04/14/2012 6:27:03 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: stonehouse01

sorry - meant questioning and Romney - posted too fast


13 posted on 04/14/2012 6:31:03 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stuartcr

I don’t care if a Leftwingtard has a signed letter from Jesus he or she is still not qualified to get my vote.


14 posted on 04/14/2012 6:48:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Longbow1969

Romney IS NOT THE NOMINEE!


15 posted on 04/14/2012 6:49:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: plenipotentiary

Re #6: Atheist would say the exact same thing about those who believe The Bible.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 6:52:02 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: plenipotentiary

You narrowminded bigot! /s


17 posted on 04/14/2012 7:24:42 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Artemis Webb

Hmm ~ but who cares what Atheists believe ~ none of their stuff counts ~


18 posted on 04/14/2012 7:27:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: plenipotentiary
"Why choose a Mormon as Republican candidate in the first place?"

My guess.....either because people are ignorant of the Mormon church and its aims/practices/doctrine, and they believe Romney when he says he's a Christian. Or they are non-religious/non-believers/secularists and just don't care about the reality of an almighty God in heaven who has told us to choose righteous leaders.

19 posted on 04/14/2012 7:29:35 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Longbow1969

Fire a mormon. They have a meeting and vote to boycott your business. Give a mormon a less than perfect job evaluation, and you receive a phone call from a higher-ranking mormon to change that evaluation to perfect. I grew up in the midst of mormons. It’s a business and not a religion. And it’s a business closed to outsiders (except for their money). OBEY AND PAY OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 8:49:37 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
Fire a mormon. They have a meeting and vote to boycott your business.

I've been in a management position basically everywhere I've worked in my adult life. We've fired Mormon's and nothing like you describe ever came of it. I can only think of a couple we've let go because most were very hard workers and ended up moving on to bigger and better things. I have a Mormon friend who was routinely fired from jobs because he always had a terrible absentee/tardiness problem. The Mormon church never rallied around him. He simply had to learn not to be a crappy employee and he's seemed to learn from his mistakes.

Perhaps what you describe is true in a majority Mormon area, but it's certainly not the experience most people have with them nationwide.

My overall experience with Mormons is very positive and I am not afraid to elect one President - nor do I have any great fear of electing a Hindu, Buddhist, etc. My primary criteria for candidates is do they hold the conservative positions I care about and are they electable. I DO have a tremendous problem with the fact that Willard is not a conservative, which is why I am extremely disappointed that he is our nominee.

21 posted on 04/14/2012 10:31:44 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Because most Hindus are honest enough to admit they are Hindus. They do NOT pretend to be Christians.

Mormons, on the other hand, pretend to be Christians. As you point out, Willard is a chameleon.


22 posted on 04/14/2012 3:58:24 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Say no to RINO DORCs (Democrats Obstructing Republican Conservatives))
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To: muawiyah

Ok


23 posted on 04/14/2012 5:56:21 PM PDT by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: plenipotentiary
Why choose a Mormon as Republican candidate in the first place?

I'm not a Romney fan by any means, but his religion has little if anything to do with his abilities to lead this country. You sound a little like the protestants who were worried that the Pope would be in the white house if Kennedy were to be elected....pathetic

24 posted on 04/14/2012 7:30:04 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl

Look. These Mormon people believe that in the 1800’s someone found some things written on gold that had been hidden in the US since pre BC times, then and “angel” stole them or something, but they made a transcript, which included lots of text taken from the King James version of the Bible....

And you’d let a Bishop in the church of these guys run the country?


25 posted on 04/15/2012 6:50:57 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary
Look. These Mormon people believe that in the 1800’s someone found some things written on gold that had been hidden in the US since pre BC times, then and “angel” stole them or something, but they made a transcript, which included lots of text taken from the King James version of the Bible....

Catholics believe that 2000 years ago a carpenters kid claimed he was God and turned water into wine and raised a dead guy back to life. When he was executed by the Romans for being a troublemaker, everyone who ever existed had everything bad that he/she had done forgiven. They now believe that a priest can change water and wine into his actual body and blood.

religion is based on faith, I am a Catholic who actually believes that stuff....he is a morman that believes what has been taught to him.....O.K.

26 posted on 04/15/2012 4:24:35 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl

Not OK. Mormons believe in something that is an obvious forgery. Do you also believe Obama’s birth certificate wasn’t forged.


27 posted on 04/15/2012 11:46:18 PM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary
Not OK. Mormons believe in something that is an obvious forgery. Do you also believe Obama’s birth certificate wasn’t forged

obvious is in the eye of the beholder. I do believe that the birth certificate is a forgery, in fact I've heard that it has been declared so. I'm not certain what a BC has to do with his being a mormon. The birth certificate problem should disqualify him from being president....the fact that he is a Mormon should not.

28 posted on 04/16/2012 1:11:58 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl

“The birth certificate problem should disqualify him from being president....the fact that he is a Mormon should not.”

Is Satan for pResident OK with you?


29 posted on 04/16/2012 2:13:03 PM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: Longbow1969

You are right Longbow.
I would not vote for a socialist even if they called their selves Christian and even if i thought they were actually Christian which i would,nt.

Also if Obama was a freedom loving capitalist instead of a freedom hating socialist i would have voted for him and would again even though he is probably an illegal alien.

So i will vote for Romney if he is the candidate.


30 posted on 04/17/2012 6:17:51 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: plenipotentiary

How can people have a candidate for the US Presidency that believes all this stuff, and is a Bishop in their church?


How can any one who really believes in God belong to any religion?


31 posted on 04/17/2012 6:29:13 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: plenipotentiary

How can people have a candidate for the US Presidency that believes all this stuff, and is a Bishop in their church?


How can any one who really believes in God belong to any religion? What do you think Jesus died to set us Free from anyway? why do you think it was the religious leaders who sought the death of Jesus?


32 posted on 04/17/2012 6:32:39 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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