Skip to comments.When Mormons were socialists [From 'United Order' communism --> Lds Church, Inc.]
Posted on 04/16/2012 7:12:15 AM PDT by Colofornian
One hundred and eighty-two years after its founding, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is certainly prospering. The Church has diversified into commercial enterprises, owning television and radio stations, universities, farms, banks and...retail. Last month, the Church opened City Creek Mall, a stunning billion-dollar downtown renovation in Salt Lake City...
Mitt Romney and City Creek represent the culmination of a great transformation within Mormonism. As an outcast faith, early Mormons experimented with communal living and alternative marriages. This original brand of Mormonism was typified by their rugged frontier prophet and polygamist outsider Brigham Young...
Youngs egalitarian separatism has long been superseded. The living embodiment of the 21st century saint is now the slick, painfully monogamous, politically malleable super-capitalist Romney who shares humorous tales of layoffs and factory closures.
Romney perfected the art of creative destruction through leveraged buyouts and junk bond financing that enriched his investors at Bain Capital while at times devastating common workers...
Ironically, while Romney would prefer to discuss wealth inequality in quiet rooms, the topic consumed both Joseph Smith and Brigham Youngs sermons and writings...
The Nephite story provided the template for Smith and Youngs social experiments with communalism. They would both try repeatedly to replicate the mythic Zion. Smith repeatedly told his followers, if you are not equal in earthly things you cannot be equal in obtaining heavenly things. Young also championed wealth redistribution, We have plenty here. No person is going to starve, or suffer, if there is an equal distribution of the necessaries of life.
But like all utopias, the dream is easier than reality.
Facing the existential threat of federal disincorporation, the LDS Church responded by seeking assimilation at any cost. They began to privatize their cooperative business ventures throughout the 1880s and publicly abandoned polygamy in 1890.
(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...
The LDS Church pays taxes on all of its commercial enterprises.
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Um..not really. Are you aware that the City Creek Mall development group is non-profit? As are most of their farming operations in Florida?
were “called” to be income-free, tax-free, pay-their-own way to the employer...
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You gotta admire the stage management...
Thanks. That is interesting.
No, the City Creek Mall development group is not non-profit. Property Reserves Inc (a for profit group) worked on the development.
Excerpt: The arm of the LDS Church which served as “master developer” of Utah’s newest and most elaborate shopping, residential and office complex has federal “tax exempt” status.
In response to questions from 2News, City Creek Reserve Inc, or CCRI, revealed it’s a “non-profit corporation.”
As such, CCRI Spokesman Dale Bills noted the company “pays property and sales taxes.” But it appears CCRI may not pay federal income taxes.
If City Creek Reserve makes money, it will go the LDS Church.
“Much like a university endowment fund supports a university, any after tax return on investment supports the religious, charitable and educational mission of the Church,” Bills said.
I am doing research. I did learn something new, and I stand corrected on the fact that CCRI might not pay taxes. However, they may still pay taxes, it is all very convoluted thanks to the IRS tax code. I promise to post my findings.
Bottom line is that CCRI is for profit. They will pay property taxes on the land that City Creek is located. City Creek is an investment by the LDS church, so that is up to the city and tax accountants to decide if/how much they will pay in taxes. Like any other business who invests money.
In general I detest the tax codes. Flatten them out, and eventually get rid of them.
Then why is the guy in charge admiting they are non-profit?
FWIW, all non-profits (like ministries) still pay property and sales taxes. That doesn’t mean they are for profit. Non-profits are exempt from certain (not all) State taxes and federal taxes.
Hmmm. Dale Bills, who is the spokesperson does say CCRI is a non-profit. All of the other research I have done says CCRI is a for-profit corp. Perhaps I shall go to the source. I do know people who work for CCRI. Thanks for the update.
yes, really. Taxes are paid on those “non-profit” properties.