Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

I Dont Know What is Awaiting Me, Says Pope on 85th Birthday
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 4/16/12 | Carol Glatz

Posted on 04/17/2012 7:04:32 AM PDT by marshmallow

Pope Benedict XVI celebrated his 85th birthday today with guests who treated him to Bavarian “oompah” music and folk dancing in the apostolic palace.

Earlier in the day, in an impromptu homily, the Pope had said: “I find myself on the last stretch of my journey in life, and I don’t know what is awaiting me.”

“I know, however, that the light of God exists, that he is risen, that his light is stronger than any darkness and that God’s goodness is stronger than any evil in this world, and this helps me go forward with certainty,” he said.

Later Bavarian bishops, minister-president of Bavaria Horst Seehofer and a 150-person regional government delegation visited the Pope in the Vatican’s Clementine Hall.

They were accompanied by a small Bavarian band, three female singers and 10 children who danced the skirt-swirling, shoe-stomping, thigh-slapping “Schuhplattler” before the Pope.

The Pope’s 88-year-old brother, Msgr Georg Ratzinger, also attended the festivities as well as representatives from the Lutheran Church and the Jewish community in Bavaria.

The children, dressed in traditional costume, presented the Pope with white flowers and a maypole covered with colourful ribbons. They also recited a German birthday poem.

The delegation presented the Pope with gifts of a wooden crucifix sculpted by a well-known 18th-century Bavarian woodcarver, Ignaz Gunther, and a large Easter basket filled with traditional cakes, dark bread, ham and painted eggs.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicherald.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last

1 posted on 04/17/2012 7:04:34 AM PDT by marshmallow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: marshmallow

He DOESN’T know what is awaiting him? What has the guy been doing with his “faith” all these years. I am no pope, but I can guarantee I KNOW what awaits me in heaven with Jesus Christ. This guy may not, but I do.


2 posted on 04/17/2012 7:11:02 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

I think he was speaking of the remainder of his earthly life.

But I’m glad you’re going to heaven. Even St. Paul wasn’t so sure.


3 posted on 04/17/2012 7:15:54 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

Just think: if you’d only read one more paragraph into the article you could have avoided looking like a pillock on FR.

Go on, read on that extra paragraph. We’ll wait.


4 posted on 04/17/2012 7:26:40 AM PDT by agere_contra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
He DOESN’T know what is awaiting him? What has the guy been doing with his “faith” all these years. I am no pope, but I can guarantee I KNOW what awaits me in heaven with Jesus Christ. This guy may not, but I do.

I think he means he's not sure about the details ... like, is he going to just be lying there on a comfortable hammock in the middle of a hot beach, eating hamburgers made from frozen patties with store-bought potato salad and cole slaw, washed down with a never-ending 30-pack of Milwaukee's Best, or watching endless episodes of "Dancing with the Stars" while eating Orville Redenbacher's gourmet popcorn, or maybe attending eternal live Beach Boys concerts, or what? These are uncertainties that make even committed Christians cling tenaciously to life, despite their certain knowledge of the blessings that await beyond.

5 posted on 04/17/2012 7:28:11 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
I am no pope, but I can guarantee I KNOW what awaits me in heaven with Jesus Christ. This guy may not, but I do.

"Off-topic" post of the day.

He is referring to his earthly ministry.

“I know, however, that the light of God exists, that he is risen, that his light is stronger than any darkness and that God’s goodness is stronger than any evil in this world, and this helps me go forward with certainty,” he said.

Glad to hear your ticket's punched, anyway. Congratulations.

6 posted on 04/17/2012 7:29:33 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
He DOESN’T know what is awaiting him? What has the guy been doing with his “faith” all these years. I am no pope, but I can guarantee I KNOW what awaits me in heaven with Jesus Christ. This guy may not, but I do.

I think he means he's not sure about the details ... like, is he going to just be lying there on a comfortable hammock in the middle of a hot beach, eating hamburgers made from frozen patties with store-bought potato salad and cole slaw, washed down with a never-ending 30-pack of Milwaukee's Best, or watching endless episodes of "Dancing with the Stars" while eating Orville Redenbacher's gourmet popcorn, or maybe attending eternal live Beach Boys concerts, or what? These are uncertainties that make even committed Christians cling tenaciously to life, despite their certain knowledge of the blessings that await beyond.

7 posted on 04/17/2012 7:32:02 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: marshmallow

Happy Birthday, Papa!


8 posted on 04/17/2012 7:34:48 AM PDT by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
I am no pope, but I can guarantee I KNOW what awaits me in heaven
No, you don't know. You believe, you have faith and that's a beautiful thing.
But no one knows ... not even the pope.
9 posted on 04/17/2012 7:44:19 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

Two words...

Solo Lectio


10 posted on 04/17/2012 7:53:35 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
I guess I could beat up on you for not reading the whole thing but that serves no purpose.

It is nice to know what awaits the faithful believers in heaven. We don't know the actual details, I think the closet to that is when Jesus said, "in my Father's house are many mansions..."

Now, I don't know the exact details of hell either but I can assure you, I would rather spend an eternity with Jesus and his Father than 1 second in hell.

11 posted on 04/17/2012 8:01:09 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: marshmallow

Well he has now outlived his predecessor.


12 posted on 04/17/2012 8:06:15 AM PDT by Republican1795.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: oh8eleven

And you my friend are totally WRONG. My Bible TELLS me if I believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior, that if I believe in the Cross, the Work of the Cross, that I WILL be in Heaven with Him. You may not know, but I KNOW.


13 posted on 04/17/2012 8:16:49 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Wrong answer.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 8:18:57 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
He DOESN’T know what is awaiting him?

No, he doesn't. Neither do you.

Tell me: exactly what will happen in your life tomorrow? Next week? Next month? Next year?

Hmmmm?

Can't do it, can you?

You could drop dead before even finishing reading this post ...

You just don't know.

That's what he meant ... anybody who doesn't get that is really dumb ... or deliberately misrepresenting him.

15 posted on 04/17/2012 8:20:04 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
""He DOESN’T know what is awaiting him?"

He was referring to his remaining years on earth. None of us know what tomorrow is going to bring, not even you. I thought he framed that very clearly when he went on to say:

“I know, however, that the light of God exists, that he is risen, that his light is stronger than any darkness and that God’s goodness is stronger than any evil in this world, and this helps me go forward with certainty,”

16 posted on 04/17/2012 8:22:09 AM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
My Bible TELLS me

And who or what "TELLS" you that the Bible isn't just a bunch of blather and drivel?

Hmmm?

17 posted on 04/17/2012 8:22:13 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
""He DOESN’T know what is awaiting him?"

He was referring to his remaining years on earth. None of us know what tomorrow is going to bring, not even you. I thought he framed that very clearly when he went on to say:

“I know, however, that the light of God exists, that he is risen, that his light is stronger than any darkness and that God’s goodness is stronger than any evil in this world, and this helps me go forward with certainty,”

18 posted on 04/17/2012 8:22:58 AM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: marshmallow

Il Papa is teaching us about earthly humility here.

The lesson, par excellance, of his Shepherd, seated at the right hand of God.


19 posted on 04/17/2012 8:24:12 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

There is no assurance of salvation in Catholicsm, you continue on that treadmill of works without ever knowing if you have done enough to get you to heaven. And for that reason ... it is another gospel ...


20 posted on 04/17/2012 8:25:09 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law

I have observed, over more than a decade participating in this forum, a strong tendency for protestants to misunderstand, misinterpret, and misrepresent comments made by Catholics. I’m not sure if it’s unconscious bigotry (”it’s from a papist, so it has to be bad”) or if it’s willful maliciousness ... but it’s unmistakable.


21 posted on 04/17/2012 8:25:36 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard
"I have observed, over more than a decade participating in this forum, a strong tendency for protestants to misunderstand, misinterpret, and misrepresent comments made by Catholics."

We all have our biases, its in our nature. Objectivity is a skill that must be practiced and self critiqued. Unobjectivity is a bad habit. I think that in too many cases the practice of parsing Scripture to validate a position can bleed over into reading the news.

22 posted on 04/17/2012 8:45:20 AM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: dartuser; RetiredArmy
"There is no assurance of salvation in Catholicsm, you continue on that treadmill of works without ever knowing if you have done enough to get you to heaven."

There is no doubt that God calls us all to Salvation, yet all are not saved. Some in these threads contend that all one must do to be saved is believe.

Faith is our response to God's call and faith is an act of the will. Is it your contention that we can will our own Salvation or are we to be judged? And if we are to be judged, upon what are we to be judged?

23 posted on 04/17/2012 8:55:03 AM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard
And who or what "TELLS" you that the Bible isn't just a bunch of blather and drivel?

The Holy Spirit. It's nothing I can believe on my own.

And who tells you that you can believe in an earthly institution? And if you want to call the Roman Catholic Church a Godly institution, who told you that?

I'd rather have faith in God than faith in man.

The various parts of the Bible have existed since the beginning of the church. Since the first letters were written, they were read in the various churches and passed around and shared. To think that the Bible was the creation of the Roman Catholic Church is a bit silly. It was written, copied, and collected by Godly men inspired by God.

This truth is not something I believe because a man told it to me, but because the Holy Spirit has opened my eyes and given me the faith I lack on my own.

24 posted on 04/17/2012 9:00:44 AM PDT by Tao Yin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: marshmallow

There have been rumblings about him not being long for this life. Combine that with the state of the world and the St. Malachy prophecy and things don’t look too good.


25 posted on 04/17/2012 9:03:09 AM PDT by bgill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tao Yin
The Holy Spirit.

Really?

Prove it.

I'd rather have faith in God

Oh, that's right. You can't prove it.

You do, however, have faith. You believe it.

To think that the Bible was the creation of the Roman Catholic Church is a bit silly.

Hmmm ... well, it is a bit silly to think that Christians of any sort wrote Genesis, or Isaiah, or the Psalms. I don't know anybody who claims that, though ... seems a bit of a strawman argument to me. OTOH, to claim that the Gospels, or Acts, or the letters of Paul, Peter, John, James were written by anybody other than members of the Catholic Church is just plain wrong.

I have come to expect that sort of wrongness from protestants.

This truth is not something I believe because a man told it to me, but because the Holy Spirit has opened my eyes and given me the faith I lack on my own.

Yep. Faith. Not certain knowledge.

That's OK ... blessed are they who have not seen, and have believed.

Or so it is recorded in the Bible.

26 posted on 04/17/2012 9:24:37 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: EyeGuy
Il Papa is teaching us about earthly humility here.

Imagine the outrage if the article stated:

Earlier in the day, in an impromptu homily, the Pope had said: “I find myself on the last stretch of my journey in life, and I know I am guaranteed a spot in heaven. I don't know about all of you, but I have one foot past the Pearly Gates already.”

27 posted on 04/17/2012 9:26:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: bgill
IMO, the "St. Malachy" stuff is more like "St. Malarkey".

YMMV.

28 posted on 04/17/2012 9:26:46 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard

We’ll be finding out soon enough.


29 posted on 04/17/2012 9:31:10 AM PDT by bgill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: bgill

From the Holy Gospel According to St. Matthew

Chapter 6

24No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

25Therefore I say to you, be not solicitous for your life, what you shall eat, nor for your body, what you shall put on. Is not the life more than the meat: and the body more than the raiment?

26Behold the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor gather into barns: and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not you of much more value than they?

27And which of you by taking thought, can add to his stature by one cubit?

28And for raiment why are you solicitous? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they labour not, neither do they spin.

29But I say to you, that not even Solomon in all his glory was arrayed as one of these.

30And if the grass of the field, which is to day, and to morrow is cast into the oven, God doth so clothe: how much more you, O ye of little faith?

31Be not solicitous therefore, saying, What shall we eat: or what shall we drink, or wherewith shall we be clothed?

32For after all these things do the heathens seek. For your Father knoweth that you have need of all these things.

33Seek ye therefore first the kingdom of God, and his justice, and all these things shall be added unto you.

34Be not therefore solicitous for to morrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof.


30 posted on 04/17/2012 9:40:55 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: marshmallow
Continue to Pray for Pope Benedict [Ecumenical]
31 posted on 04/17/2012 9:47:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

**I KNOW what awaits me in heaven with Jesus Christ**

How do you know this? Have you had some visions? Revelations from God?

No one knows for sure that they are going to heaven. We are all sinners. (Or are you saying that you are sinless like Jesus Christ?)


32 posted on 04/17/2012 9:49:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

**My Bible TELLS me **

And your Bible also tells you that there is a hell and that people will be damned to it.

You cannot make and assertion that you are going to heaven of your own power.

That is the judgment of Jesus Christ at the moment you die.

So HOW can you know NOW?


33 posted on 04/17/2012 9:53:03 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

“Not every one who says “Lord, Lord” will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.”


34 posted on 04/17/2012 9:57:05 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
but I can guarantee I KNOW what awaits me in heaven with Jesus Christ.

You have deluded yourself into thinking you know with absolute certainty where you're headed. Scripture contradicts you.

35 posted on 04/17/2012 9:58:16 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
"See then the goodness and the severity of God: towards them indeed that are fallen, the severity; but towards thee, the goodness of God, if thou abide in goodness, otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." Romans 11:22

"Now all these things happened to them in figure: and they are written for our correction, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Wherefore he that thinketh himself to stand, let him take heed lest he fall." 1 Corinthians 10-11-12

"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation." Philippians 2:12

My Bible TELLS me if I believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior, that if I believe in the Cross, the Work of the Cross, that I WILL be in Heaven with Him.

Would that be an abridged, heavily edited version of the original?

36 posted on 04/17/2012 10:08:13 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law
There is no doubt that God calls us all to Salvation, yet all are not saved.

Agreed, "Many will say to me Lord, Lord ... depart from me ..."

Some in these threads contend that all one must do to be saved is believe.

And if by believe they mean mere acceptance of intellectual facts they would be wrong ... a casual reading of the NT shows that to believe involves both repentance and faith; they go hand in hand.

Mark 1:15 - The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.
Acts 20:18-21 18 You yourselves know, from the first day that I set foot in Asia, how I was with you the whole time, 19 serving the Lord with all humility and with tears and with trials which came upon me through athe plots of the Jews; 20 how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house, 21 solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

There are many others ...

No doubt there are many who would declare that it is works in combination with faith that saves you. My conjecture is that if you are performing works in order to be saved, you are not saved. You see, when you perform works to ensure your own salvation, those works are done for a purely selfish motive ... to add to your collection pile of "good deeds" that you hope reaches high enough to get you into heaven. If you are required to do them to get there, then there is ALWAYS a sense in which the motives for them, of necessity, is selfish. "I have to do these to get me there ... so I am going to do them, for I must do them."

The true believer is one who has recognized his utter hopelessness before a holy and perfect God, that His judgment rests on him for his unbelief and for his refusal to repent, and for merely paying lip service to His Lordship, for continuing to live his life by his own rules. He repents, turns from his sin and places his trust soley in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ to save him, nothing else. When a person does this he passes from death to life, becomes born again, is regerated, etc. Nothing can be added to the finished work of Jesus Christ. The RCC teaches that works are necessary for salvation, and/or that you must atone for your sins in purgatory. (Your own catechism teaches it). This is not the gospel of Jesus Christ, its another gospel.

After the impartation of eternal life, the believer wants to perform works in gratitude for the forgiveness that God has already imparted. The works are no longer selfish, as they are not required, but desired in reponse to what God has done for him. He will have a passionate desire to read the Bible for himself, to have intimacy with God in prayer, to earnestly desire his lost friends and family to come to Christ.

Whether you recognize it or not ... Catholics perform their works out of selfish motives, to build their pile of works hoping it reaches high enough to get them to heaven. A Christian who has been truly regenerated recognizes that no amount of works can get you there because our works before God are rubbish. The Christian performs his works out of grateful adoration for the eternal life that has already been granted.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you, who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.

There it is ... in black and white ... for all to read ... You can KNOW that you have eternal life ... you can HAVE it now (present tense verb) and have full assurance that you will be with Christ in heaven. Not hope for, not wait until you die to find out ... you ... can ... know. If you don't know if you are saved ... then most likely you are not.

The heart of the teachings of the RCC deny this simple truth, and have propogated another gospel since its inception.

Do I believe there are Christians in the RCC? Absolutely ... but they didn't get to be Christians by following the teachings of the RCC.

37 posted on 04/17/2012 10:21:02 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

Amen


38 posted on 04/17/2012 10:39:07 AM PDT by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dartuser

LOL! The Catholic Church gave you the Bible and you throw stones?

May God have mercy on you.


39 posted on 04/17/2012 10:44:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
But I’m glad you’re going to heaven. Even St. Paul wasn’t so sure.

Really???

40 posted on 04/17/2012 10:45:39 AM PDT by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

Unless he repents his idolatry he is headed for hell


41 posted on 04/17/2012 10:46:44 AM PDT by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RnMomof7

Look it up.


42 posted on 04/17/2012 10:55:20 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: dartuser
"The heart of the teachings of the RCC deny this simple truth, and have propogated another gospel since its inception."

The simple response is "says who?". Unless you can establish infallibility in your interpretation of the entire revealed Word, not simply cite carefully chosen versus pleasing to the Protestant eye, then you are expecting me to accept your own personal interpretations over the Magisterium of the Church whose human authors produced the Scriptures under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, whom I consider to be infallible. No reasonable man would take you up on that since God does not ask us to believe anything that is counter to reason.

43 posted on 04/17/2012 11:33:54 AM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: RnMomof7
"Unless he repents his idolatry he is headed for hell"

Do you honestly believe that Pope Benedict XVI, and all Catholics for that matter, are going to hell? Are you saying that those who say all one has to do is believe are wrong? Are they going to hell too? Isn't it possible, according to your theology, that Pope Benedict XVI is among the elect and that none of his "idolatry" has any consequence in his Salvation?

For the record, didn't you also argue that Mother Theresa is going to hell for not requiring deathbed conversions in exchange for love, compassion, food and comfort?

44 posted on 04/17/2012 11:42:46 AM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
Read the article before commenting on the title -- the very next paragraph after that continues to say “I know, however, that the light of God exists, that he is risen, that his light is stronger than any darkness and that God’s goodness is stronger than any evil in this world, and this helps me go forward with certainty,”
45 posted on 04/18/2012 4:46:29 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Someone posted earlier that they should beat you up for not reading beyond the title, but that they wouldn’t.

You deserve to be beaten heartily about the head and shoulders. Inability to gather and process information is the major reason we have today’s problems in the political arena.

As I am also “retired Army”, I hope you did a better job analyzing your mission orders than you did this article.


46 posted on 04/18/2012 4:57:46 AM PDT by damper99
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
Perhaps you should read the Bible in more detail and thoroughly?

this is what Jesus said


47 posted on 04/18/2012 4:58:40 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: dartuser; RetiredArmy
Absolute rot. Please note that your post, dart, repeated a lie

We are all (if we accept it) assured of the redemption of Christ, the act that saves us by the Grace of God.

Christ Himself tells us to repent, belief, be baptised, eat of His body and blood and endure to the end to be saved by Him. None of those by themselves save -- Christ is the one that does the saving, the salvic grace granted by His sacrifice is what saves us -- and He tells us that we should accept this by repentance, belief etc. --> those who just croon "Lord, Lord" will not be saved as He said

Remember Romans 11:22 "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off"

Through following His Words (repentance, belief, eating of His body etc.) Christ grants the assurance of His redemption

48 posted on 04/18/2012 5:11:33 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: RnMomof7

Not him, but those who detract. How hot is it for you there?


49 posted on 04/18/2012 5:13:55 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law; RnMomof7
Do you honestly believe that Pope Benedict XVI, and all Catholics for that matter, are going to hell?

The cult outside the Apostolic Church believe that all Christians will go to hell. This cult trades in hate. The cultists are filled with the spite of the Devil, not the love of Christ. And it shows....

50 posted on 04/18/2012 5:15:19 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson