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Radical feminist nuns’ group ‘stunned’ by Vatican criticisms, reform plan
Life News ^ | 4/19/2012 | Hilary White, Rome Correspondent

Posted on 04/19/2012 3:19:34 PM PDT by Morgana

VATICAN CITY, April 19, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The announcement yesterday by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) that one of the most notoriously liberal radical feminist organizations in the American Catholic Church is to be the subject of a major reform effort has been met with surprise from the group and condemnation from some of its members.

An initial statement from the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) leadership says they are “stunned” by the critical comments made by the CDF in their doctrinal assessment. The CDF had specifically criticized the organization for its refusal to accept Catholic teaching on abortion, human sexuality and women’s ordination.

“Because the leadership of LCWR has the custom of meeting annually with the staff of CDF in Rome and because the conference follows canonically-approved statutes, we were taken by surprise,” the LCWR said in a statement. The leadership will meet in the next month to consider a comprehensive response.

Individual members, however, have been prompt in condemning the Vatican’s interest. Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of NETWORK, a lobbying group of U.S. Catholic nuns cited as problematic in the CDF’s report, told the Washington Post, “It’s painfully obvious that the leadership of the church is not used to having educated women form thoughtful opinions and engage in dialogue.”

Benedictine sister Joan Chittister, a prolific author and the unofficial spokesman of the extreme feminist left among Catholic women religious, told the National Catholic Reporter, “When you set out to reform a people, a group, who have done nothing wrong, you have to have an intention, a motivation that is not only not morally based, but actually immoral.”

Chittister called the CDF’s proposals an attempt “to control people for one thing and one thing only – and that is for thinking, for being willing to discuss the issues of the age.”

“If we stop thinking, if we stop demanding the divine right to think, and to see that as a Catholic gift, then we are betraying the church no matter what the powers of the church see as an inconvenient truth in their own times.”

In an interview with LifeSiteNews.com in 2010, Chittister had said that while she is personally “against” abortion, “I would never condemn a woman who finds herself in the position where she believes that, or her doctor believes that, abortion is the only answer for her at that moment.” She also criticized the Catholic Church as being based “on a patriarchal system” and described her admitted divergence from Catholic teaching as a “position of query, of theological and scriptural commitment and search.”

While the LCWR leadership and supporters say they are surprised, others have noted that reform of the religious life has been a prominent feature of Pope Benedict’s papacy. Among his earliest acts as pope was the launching of a reforming investigation into the wealthy and influential Legion of Christ, founded by the now-disgraced, late Marcial Maciel, after years of accusations of misconduct.

One Vatican source told LifeSiteNews.com that while some may consider this action against LCWR typical of an “ultra-conservative” pope acting to suppress the liberal factions, “It should be remembered that Benedict’s first target was the Legionaries and Maciel, then the darlings of the conservative end of the Church.”

LCWR was founded in 1956 and approved by the Vatican as an umbrella organization representing sisters and nuns in the U.S. Its 1500 members are members of congregations representing over 80 percent of the 59,000 Catholic women religious in the United States. Since the 1960s, however, the LCWR has become the de facto representative of the far left in the U.S. Catholic Church, with its membership dedicated to, in the words of the CDF, “certain radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith,” and “policies of corporate dissent,” from Catholic teaching.

CDF prefect Cardinal Levada said he had received many letters from women religious in the U.S. complaining about Catholic teaching. “The terms of the letters,” he wrote, “suggest that these sisters collectively take a position not in agreement with the Church’s teaching on human sexuality.

“It is a serious matter when these Leadership Teams are not providing effective leadership and example to their communities, but place themselves outside the Church’s teaching.”

The document from the CDF outlines the Vatican’s plan to spend the next five years reforming the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR).

Seattle Archbishop Peter Sartain has been appointed to oversee the reform of the organization, which will involve revising its statutes, creating new programs, reviewing and offering guidance on liturgy and reviewing LCWR’s affiliations with other organizations, citing specifically NETWORK and the Resource Center for Religious Institutes.

The announcement comes at a delicate time in the relations between the US Catholic Church and LCWR, with the latter endorsing the Obama administration’s health care plans and former leading a fight against the administration’s plans to impose birth control coverage on Catholic institutions and fund abortion in the health reform law. This conflict of interest seems to be in the mind of the CDF, which has an American, William Levada, as cardinal prefect. The document noted, “occasional public statements by the LCWR that disagree with or challenge positions taken by the Bishops, who are the Church’s authentic teachers of faith and morals, are not compatible with its purpose.”

The CDF said that the sisters represented by the LCWR, 80 percent of the remaining female Catholic religious in the US, are “in crisis.” They have moved away from the fundamental purpose of their existence as Catholic religious and are suffering from “a diminution of the fundamental Christological center and focus of religious consecration,” it said.

“While there has been a great deal of work on the part of LCWR promoting issues of social justice in harmony with the Church’s social doctrine, it is silent on the right to life from conception to natural death, a question that is part of the lively public debate about abortion and euthanasia in the United States,” the document said.

If the LCWR leadership says it is “stunned” by the outcome of the CDF’s investigation, the reaction is possibly the result of statements previously coming from the Vatican itself. Following several negative reactions from LCWR sisters after the investigation was announced, the recently appointed Secretary of the Congregation for Religious, Archbishop Joseph Tobin, said that he anticipated no censure from Rome as a result.

“I can say that I would be very surprised if anybody would purport to give any punitive or overly prescriptive norms as a result of this visitation,” he said. “If the visitors, in dialogue with the sisters, have identified some specific issues that need to be dealt with, okay. But forcing people into habits or something like that? That’s not what this is about.”

Tobin also said that strong actions against American women’s religious orders “would be really disrespectful of what women religious in America have accomplished,” and that the “depth of anger and hurt that exists among the sisters ... can’t be ignored.”

Archbishop Tobin had previously told journalists that the animosity between the US religious orders and the Vatican is the Vatican’s fault. The real problem, he said, was the presence of “unscrupulous canonical advisers” in the Vatican.

Two years after Archbishop Tobin reassured LCWR, Mother Clare Millea, the sister appointed in 2008 by the Vatican to coordinate the Apostolic Visitation of all the U.S. active religious orders, issued a statement saying, “Although there are concerns in religious life that warrant support and attention, the enduring reality is one of fidelity, joy, and hope.”

She told Catholic journalist Ann Carey in January this year, “The dialogue promoted by the apostolic visitation is just a beginning of new vitality in religious life. I am confident that much more will unfold with the passing of time and that the Holy Spirit will continue to work in and through women religious to strengthen unity within the Church and further the saving mission of Christ.”

“As I learned of and observed firsthand the perseverance of the religious in the United States in their vocations, in their ministries and in their faith … I have been both inspired and humbled,” she added.

The situation of the Catholic sisterhoods in the U.S. has been in flux since the closing of the Second Vatican Council in 1965 ushered in a maelstrom of change. This change, while frequently lauded as “prophetic” by the LCWR sisters themselves, has seen the near-total collapse of the Catholic religious life, and after 40 years, the closure or effective secularization of hundreds, if not thousands, of schools, nursing homes, hospitals, colleges and other Catholic charitable institutions, including convents.

In the intervening decades, while new vocations became more rare, the religious orders turned their attention largely to political interests, with the sisters themselves focusing on an array of left-liberal and secular causes. Meanwhile, the average median age of women in LCWR institutes is now 74, and many of the LCWR-represented congregations are no longer accepting applicants, choosing instead to merge with other orders or shut down their operations entirely.


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Rev. Mother Superior says "Good! They need to be shaken up"

1 posted on 04/19/2012 3:19:40 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Or the headline could say,

Vatican Stunes FemiNazi Nuns’ Beebers With Reform Plan!

LOL!


2 posted on 04/19/2012 3:32:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Morgana
I agree with Rev. Mother Superior!
3 posted on 04/19/2012 3:32:43 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: Morgana
I agree with Rev. Mother Superior!
4 posted on 04/19/2012 3:32:50 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: Morgana
How do these 'nuns' differ from any other group of leftist women? Abortion, lesbianism, gay rights and social justice appear to be much more important to them than any Catholic teachings.

Make them follow the program or let them hit the road.

5 posted on 04/19/2012 3:34:16 PM PDT by JPG (Pass the pooch.)
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To: Morgana

They should be excommunicated publicly and loudly. Nuns for Choice and these other radical disgusting feminazi groups are a disgrace to the Catholic Church. Why don’t they just leave the Church and go start somewhere else . . . but leave the Church. They’re a Cancer.


6 posted on 04/19/2012 3:34:58 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Morgana

The notion of radical feminist nuns is repulsive, and I’m not even Catholic!


7 posted on 04/19/2012 3:35:07 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: laweeks

> They should be excommunicated publicly and loudly.

Along with the high-profile “Catholic” politicians who have given the Church the single-digit salute.

Pelosi, Biden, all the Kennedys, both Cuomos, Kerry, etc, etc, etc.


8 posted on 04/19/2012 3:44:17 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Morgana

Stuned! This is hugh and series.


9 posted on 04/19/2012 3:47:43 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Morgana

Why should they be stunned?

If they want to be a Catholic organization within the auspices of that church, then they should accept its doctrines. Otherwise they should stop pretending to be Catholics or stop pretending to be a part of the church.

Pretty simple?

I would say the same about any organization that pretends to be part of any church. Accept the doctrines or stop pretending to be part of it.


10 posted on 04/19/2012 3:48:31 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Morgana

Many nuns belong to communities that own thier own property. The do not depend on the local bishop for economic support. The bishop cannot kick them out of their convents. The left wing radical nuns won’t leave because they live comfortable lives and have three hots and a cot. I doubt if they are Catholic or if they consider themselves to be Catholic. I think public excommunication would be a good idea. Let them call themselves Episcoplalians or Veternarians or whatever.


11 posted on 04/19/2012 3:55:40 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Morgana

I humbly suggest Benedictine sister Joan Chittister needs her knuckles rapped by a metal three cornered ruler and made to write “Obedience to law is liberty” 5,000 times on the nearest blackboard.


12 posted on 04/19/2012 4:07:39 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: GeronL

http://barnhardt.biz/

I agree with Ann on this matter, the catholic church has been infiltrated for YEARS by homosexuality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLvDVdJXnE&feature=player_embedded

WARNING: STRONG LANGUAGE IN CLIP


13 posted on 04/19/2012 4:13:52 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Morgana

These lefty nuns came out barking when I was a kid promoting abortion, teen sex, divorce, etc. I headed for the hills.


14 posted on 04/19/2012 4:14:07 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: forgotten man

Do these nuns go to confession and take communion? What priest is cooperating with that?


15 posted on 04/19/2012 4:32:44 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Looks like Jesus is starting to clean house....hope it continues...


16 posted on 04/19/2012 4:37:13 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Sioux-san

“Do these nuns go to confession and take communion? What priest is cooperating with that?”

I know one in particular who is a relative of mine. I don’t think she attends mass on a regular basis and she says thier is only one member of her community who is pro life. Go ahead and scratch your head.


17 posted on 04/19/2012 4:37:30 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: forgotten man

Geez - like other posters comments, what is it about Catholicism do these nuns agree with? Excommuication seems the only answer for these unrepentant women who actively cooperate with the sin. Even worse when you know the Truth and reject it.


18 posted on 04/19/2012 4:50:37 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Morgana

As a woman, I agree with Mother Superior! ;-)

Send them out to groups like the Dominican Sisters of Nashville....to see how AUTHENTIC Catholic sisters function!!!


19 posted on 04/19/2012 4:55:32 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: laweeks

Yup.


20 posted on 04/19/2012 5:16:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Westbrook

Amen.

This is along the lines of that dyke who claimed she was refused communion because she shoved her vagina nuzzling relatonship in the priest’s face and he got a migraine.

Excommunicate those ‘nones’. Make a recording of thunder and lightning and play it every time they try to enter the church except when they come to confession.

I am a Catholic and I approved this message.


21 posted on 04/19/2012 5:18:56 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Morgana
Chittister called the CDF’s proposals an attempt “to control people for one thing and one thing only – and that is for thinking, for being willing to discuss the issues of the age.”
“If we stop thinking, if we stop demanding the divine right to think, and to see that as a Catholic gift, then we are betraying the church no matter what the powers of the church see as an inconvenient truth in their own times.”

No, Sister, the CDF's proposals do not attempt to stop you and your liberal sisters from thinking, or even talking amongst yourselves. The CDF just wants you to stop talking outside your communities about the 'changes' you want to make. Your incessant chatter about how you want to make the Church better simply confuses Catholics, especially those who have been poorly catechized, which includes all those who were taught by the likes of YOU, and your liberal sisters.

22 posted on 04/19/2012 5:43:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Morgana
Individual members, however, have been prompt in condemning the Vatican’s interest. Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of NETWORK, a lobbying group of U.S. Catholic nuns cited as problematic in the CDF’s report, told the Washington Post, “It’s painfully obvious that the leadership of the church is not used to having educated women form thoughtful opinions and engage in dialogue.”

If that is what you think, baby, hit the bricks and start your own church.

23 posted on 04/19/2012 5:44:29 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: JPG
How do these 'nuns' differ from any other group of leftist women? Abortion, lesbianism, gay rights and social justice appear to be much more important to them than any Catholic teachings.

They differ because they VOLUNTARILY took VOWS of obedience, poverty and chastity. Mouthing off about(supporting)abortion, artificial birth control, normalizing homosexuality and such, is anathema to the teaching of the Church they VOLUNTARILY entered. They are double hypocrites because of their vows.

Ordinary leftist women are just miserable and unhappy women. They bleat because they hurt and don't know how to NOT hurt. These nuns are SUPPOSED to be happy in their role, 'married' to the Church, to Jesus. They are SUPPOSED to be NOT ordinary, but extraordinary women.

Their FAITH is supposed to be more important to them than anything else. Jesus is supposed to be number one in their lives. Anything different is breaking vows.

They should shut up or leave--SO simple. The Church doesn't need them. They do far more damage than ordinary leftist jerkettes.

24 posted on 04/19/2012 5:58:19 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana
Cardinal Levada was archbishop of San Francisco, Marin and San Mateo Counties for several years. The leftist, church-hating fools who tried to give any static to the Church during his time were dealt with in a manner that would make the Good Lord proud.
I was not at all surprised when the Vatican took him away to Rome. He OOZED brains, talent, compassion, backbone and love of his Lord.
25 posted on 04/19/2012 6:02:13 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Robwin
Individual members, however, have been prompt in condemning the Vatican’s interest. Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of NETWORK, a lobbying group of U.S. Catholic nuns cited as problematic in the CDF’s report, told the Washington Post, “It’s painfully obvious that the leadership of the church is not used to having educated women form thoughtful opinions and engage in dialogue.”
If that is what you think, baby, hit the bricks and start your own church.

Amen, brother.

26 posted on 04/19/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana
Benedictine sister Joan Chittister said “If we stop thinking, if we stop demanding the divine right to think, and to see that as a Catholic gift, then we are betraying the church no matter what the powers of the church see as an inconvenient truth in their own times.”

LOL, a Benedictine nun said this? About the Catholic Church? LOL! Listen, Sister, if you want your divine right to think, just make sure you're thinking about supporting Catholic Doctrine. Because as a Catholic, your divine right to think stops right there - period. That's WHY you're a Catholic, remember?

27 posted on 04/19/2012 6:35:56 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: JPG

They were just surprised that there was a Pope, and that the Vatican was still the headquarters of the Catholic Church...


28 posted on 04/19/2012 6:54:05 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Morgana
Amazing, but they are just the tip of a very large iceberg. Let's see discipline come down on all the Catholic institutes of higher learning that teach liberalism. Let's see politicians who push for abortion, homosexuality and a host of other sins disciplined. But this is a start. Glad to see the Catholic Church show some teeth when it comes to disciplining where there is known and public sin. I am not Catholic, but am glad when sin is genuinely censored.
29 posted on 04/19/2012 10:59:15 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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In an interview with LifeSiteNews.com in 2010, Chittister had said that while she is personally “against” abortion, “I would never condemn a woman who finds herself in the position where she believes that, or her doctor believes that, abortion is the only answer for her at that moment.” She also criticized the Catholic Church as being based “on a patriarchal system” and described her admitted divergence from Catholic teaching as a “position of query, of theological and scriptural commitment and search.”

LifeSiteNews featured Chittister's image in their reporting vs AP which showed an image of Mother Teresa's sisters.

30 posted on 04/20/2012 6:54:24 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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The National Post up here in Canada used a picture of the Sisters of Life.


31 posted on 04/20/2012 7:13:07 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: goat granny
>>Looks like Jesus is starting to clean house....hope it continues...<<


33 posted on 04/20/2012 7:42:26 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: NYer; Chode

34 posted on 04/20/2012 1:42:42 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Tzar

“Are they nuns or just social workers in habits?”

They are community organizers without habits.


35 posted on 04/20/2012 1:44:10 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana
looks like Liberace...
36 posted on 04/20/2012 2:46:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
"I wish my brother George was here"
37 posted on 04/20/2012 5:01:52 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana

and what habits they have are bad!


38 posted on 04/20/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by Reily
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“I would never condemn a woman who finds herself in the position where she believes that, or her doctor believes that, abortion is the only answer for her at that moment.”

I would.

39 posted on 04/20/2012 7:03:54 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Talisker

The Catholic Church is a power structure with a lot of money, and many are associated with it because of that, not because the actually share Catholic values.


40 posted on 04/20/2012 7:08:25 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Morgana
he had a brother George??? must of been the masculine one
41 posted on 04/20/2012 7:20:51 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

He had a brother named George who sometimes came out on his show and played a violin. Never said anything just played. I am going to guess the whole family had musical talents.


42 posted on 04/21/2012 4:54:29 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Chode

http://youtu.be/lI5VwOXtC2I

You know what is sad? He was talented and had not not been a homo he would have never died of AIDS. He’d still be playing today or at least longer than he did.


43 posted on 04/21/2012 5:51:29 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: goat granny
Looks like Jesus is starting to clean house....hope it continues...

Let us all pray for it.

44 posted on 04/21/2012 6:01:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Sioux-san
Do these nuns go to confession and take communion? What priest is cooperating with that?

They are either dying off or being retired. The barque of St. Peter is slow to adjust course and make corrections. However, like any gigantic oil tanker or container ship, it will eventually make it where the Captain wishes it to go. And with an XO like BXVI, the course corrections are a little quicker than with some of the previous ones.

45 posted on 04/21/2012 6:05:44 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: NYer
In an interview with LifeSiteNews.com in 2010, Chittister had said that while she is personally “against” abortion, “I would never condemn a woman who finds herself in the position where she believes that, or her doctor believes that, abortion is the only answer for her at that moment.” She also criticized the Catholic Church as being based “on a patriarchal system” and described her admitted divergence from Catholic teaching as a “position of query, of theological and scriptural commitment and search.”

I'd start the divergence of funding for her lifestyle as well.

46 posted on 04/21/2012 6:07:55 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Morgana
he was a good player, i still remember watching him on TV
47 posted on 04/21/2012 6:21:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MarkBsnr

I am a bit stunned by all of this, too, particularly on the “social justice” issue, which is just a buzz word for socialism and equal misery for all - don’t know why the nuns don’t get that. I worked for a Catholic hospital system and that was one of their main goals (social justice) - I thought the Church endorsed that as well, but now I know it was all coming from the nuns who ran the hospitals.


48 posted on 04/21/2012 7:30:18 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Well, it’s not about social justice, whatever that is.

It’s about power and the ability to practice it over others, unearned. It’s also about not having to work for a living. Did our current President, as community organizer (whatever that is) have to work for a living?

My padre works for a living and very hard and long hours. My bishop, even though I publicly have excoriated him to his face and on camera, works hard for a living. These social justice nuns are not working for a living - they are working to undermine the Faith in order to support their own particular warped fantasies of what the Faith might be manipulated to.

The Beatitudes are at the top of Catholic Faith, make no mistake. However, abortion and fascism cannot be.


49 posted on 04/21/2012 7:36:07 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: goat granny
Jesus is starting to clean house

In my opinion, condemnations based on Biblical beliefs are highly questionable.

Ask yourself ... What would Jesus do?

50 posted on 04/22/2012 8:03:07 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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