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Prayers and Praying.
04/25/2012 | EnglishCon

Posted on 04/25/2012 7:37:17 AM PDT by EnglishCon

Been thinking about prayer, as I have both been blessed with prayers from the FR community and have sent some up to the individuals within the community. A thread posted today affirmed my desire to talk about this, and see what other people think. (

To me, there are four specific types of prayer.

Praying as we are instructed:

The Lord's prayer. That is fixed and we are told that is how to pray. Request your daily bread, both physical and spiritual and resign yourself to God's will. The Serenity prayer, which I am a huge fan of, has basically the same message.

God, give us grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish the one from the other.
Living one day at a time, Enjoying one moment at a time,
Accepting hardship as a pathway to peace,
Taking, as Jesus did, this sinful world as it is, Not as I would have it,
Trusting that You will make all things right, If I surrender to Your will,
So that I may be reasonably happy in this life, And supremely happy with You forever in the next.

You'll not find that one in the bible. You find it in the Bible for addicts, as it is the de facto prayer for AA and NA.Yet it is so similar to the Lords Prayer I am comfortable in putting them together.

Church Prayers:

Almost every church has formal prayers. Some are read and response, some are traditional, some are hymns (for those who doubt, read the hymns penned by the Wesley brothers - they are prayers set to music and are extraodinarily beautiful as both prayers and music).

Again, formal, comforting. Not exactly personal, but praising the Lord, as they should.

One of the joys of these prayers is they give us a sense of community. A shared joy in the Lord and a deep understanding that we are not just with Him, but with others who believe.

Begging Prayers:

OK, this one I find tricky. I detest asking God to stop the universe and change something just for me, yet I have precisely zero problem in praying for healing or well being or peace for other people.

Call it a mental glitch on my part. The Lord has already given the greatest gifts anyone could wish for. Life eternal with Him, life here on Earth and a brain which (when it bothers working) can see his glory and the beauty of his creation.

Someone gives you all that as an outright gift, well, it is kind of selfish to ask for anything more.

Talking to God

Ever been awake at 3 AM? Too tired to sleep so you sit and think. Eventually, you find yourself having a conversation. You are not asking for anything, not praising Him, just talking.

It is usually a monologue, mind, but sometimes He answers. You may not LIKE the answer, but you will get one if you listen long enough.

Prayer works. Been around long enough to see that for myself. Have benefited from it myself - nothing earth shattering or universe changing, but certainly I have been granted peace in times I should not have been at peace.


TOPICS: Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Prayer
KEYWORDS: prayers
Just throwing this out there as I am still learning (after 35 years!) and I know that there is a huge fun of knowlege and wisdom here. I respectfully ask that we don't go trashing others beliefs - prayer is the one thing that unites Christians, and is worth a discussion or two.
1 posted on 04/25/2012 7:37:23 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

Check out my profile page on prayer.

Here’s a link:

2 posted on 04/25/2012 8:15:26 AM PDT by ROTB (FReepmail me if you want to join a team seeking the LORD for a Christian revival now in the USA.)
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To: EnglishCon

The Lord’s Prayer and the serenity prayer have saved the lives of millions of addicts. Yes millions, I know hundreds personally. The Lord has received and forgiven millions who feel too unworthy or ashamed to set foot in a church (yet). Many of these would not be allowed in a church either, even if they felt inclined to do so.

I currently work mostly with Ho’oponopono, which is a Hawaiian prayer protocol for purification, cleansing, repentance, and forgiveness. I use a short form and a long form. This system removes the blocks in my subconscious mind and soul that get between me and The Lord.

The Lord loves me unconditionally, but I can’t accept that if I don’t forgive myself. The unforgivable sin is when I don’t allow the Lord’s forgiveness to reach my soul and mind. My false pride and ego will block it, left to their own ways.

3 posted on 04/25/2012 8:19:24 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: EnglishCon

IMHO, just keeping our hearts open to Him at all times brings peace,and,keeps me ready for any situation that arises.

I just pray that He direct my path, wherever it may lead, and know that even in difficulty He will always overcome.

4 posted on 04/25/2012 8:35:03 AM PDT by wizr (Keep the Faith!)
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To: EnglishCon

One of my favorite prayers is the Prayer of St. Francis. It helped me through a rough time.

5 posted on 04/25/2012 9:04:28 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: EnglishCon

Remember the gospel parable about the widow and the unjust judge? Pray and do not give up.

6 posted on 04/25/2012 9:31:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: EnglishCon
Prayers and Praying
Orthodox Prayer: Gaining the attention of the mind (Devotional)
On Our Lord's Prayer at the Last Supper
On Jesus' Prayer as Love for God and Neighbor

8 Ways to Pray During Lent [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
How do you pray?
How (and Why) of Daily Prayer
Passionate Prayer – Part Two
Passionate Prayer – Part One
Prayer the Great Means of Salvation: Ch.1: The Necessity of Prayer, Sect. 3 Invocation of the Saints
Pray Always
The Mystery and Power of Personal Prayer
The Three Ways of Attention and Prayer; Orthodox/Catholic Caucus
Lesson One in Prayer

Prayer and Suffering
Prayer, Charity and the Joy of Forgiveness (some spiritual catechesis from Cardinal Sean)
Does Prayer Work?--Research and ‘Unanswered’ Prayer
Long-Awaited Medical Study Questions the Power of Prayer
The Power of Prayer
Prayer Study: Humans Fail to Manipulate God
Study fails to show healing power of prayer
Explanation of the Prayer of Saint Michael [Father Robert J. Altier]
24-7 prayer movement spreads on college campuses
Confession for RCIA Candidates And More on the Prayer of the Faithful

7 posted on 04/25/2012 10:24:53 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: All; EnglishCon
Philippians 4:6-7

"Do Not be Anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

" will Guard Your HEARTs and Your MINDS in Christ Jesus."

Read this several times slowly till you really get it. I always do at times.

Then put it in action. Pray with Psalms and great devotionals. I pray the Divine Mercy chaplet. This has changed my life. Supernatural presence of our Lord.

I have experienced twice the Chorus of Heaven softly then getting louder. It was the Holy Holy Holy I believe from Revelations. All for a couple of minutes. Once was in my bedroom. The other time was at the EWTN pilgrimage to see the chapel then the Most Beautiful Basilica grounds that has prayer gardens. Myself and a Catholic Lebanese woman were walking on the path then heard the most beautiful supernatural Chorus singing.

I am just acting humble at times. I am no better than any other seeking out Christ in prayer. But for crying out loud just pray until you have that breakthrough. . AMEN!!

My most profound moments in prayer come after deep contrition then I can be and will be lifted up by our Lord. Oh he loves us so much.

I posted this early but got a hold of this from a famous canonized saint. It is so true read this all the way to the end. It is the most remarkable statement for any denominational Christian. It first sounds arrogant but read till end then reread again. Amazing insight to the Lord. I personally knew from my own experience. Here it is.

“Humility is the source and foundation of every kind of virtue,” the Cure of Ars teaches; “it is the door by which all God-given graces enter; it is what seasons all our actions, making them so valuable and so pleasing to God. Finally, it makes us masters of God’s heart, to the point, so to speak, of making Him our servant; for God has never been able to resist a humble heart” (”Selected Ser- mons”, Tenth Sunday after Pentecost).

He is really writing about pray and asking prays. Meaning we are one with God at these most beautiful humble moments into the real insight of who we are in God.

Praise Jesus!! Amen!

8 posted on 04/25/2012 12:13:53 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: EnglishCon

Hi English - if you wake up at 3:00 am do the Divine Mercy Chaplet at least once during that Hour. It will be the most effective. You are waking up for a reason. I wake up alot at that hour for years.


Since then I have been doing those prayers. If you read about it these prayers are most powerful because we honor Jesus’s hour of death for our souls on the third hour. Notice how he loved the devotion of the women with oil in scripture how Jesus was so honored. Everyone else did not see how profound it really was for the Lord. Certain devotionals are just so rich.

Truly beautiful. I highly reccomend. These prayers are for the End Times revealed to St. Faustina by our Lord. Powerfully Anointed! If you need a start just go online to say with group. Awesome presence. His hugs are beautiful. I think these prayers are so anointed because we are praying for others as we offer our intentions too. Give and it will be given in the form of prayers.

Praise be to God

9 posted on 04/25/2012 12:56:06 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: EnglishCon
nice post, but you are reinventing the wheel.

The Catechism of the Catholic church has a nice chapter on the various ways to pray, including liturgical prayer, vocal prayer, praying and thinking about what you are reading, and the prayer of being present to God without using words...


10 posted on 04/25/2012 5:01:30 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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After having for a number of years a very long dry spell, I have begun again spiritualy. I am ready to begin again in prayer.

11 posted on 04/26/2012 5:27:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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