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Religious Left Figure Implies Chuck Colson Is in Hell
Christian Post ^ | 04/25/2012 | Napp Nazworth

Posted on 04/25/2012 10:39:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

After the death of evangelical leader Chuck Colson, Frank Schaeffer wrote a scathing rebuke of Colson's life and implied that he was in hell.

"Evangelical Christianity lost one of its most beloved and bigoted homophobic and misogynistic voices with the death of Charles W. 'Chuck' Colson, a Watergate felon who converted to 'evangelicalism' but never lost his taste for dirty political tricks against opponents," Schaeffer wrote.

Schaeffer complained about Colson's political activism, which he described as "far right," and seemed particularly offended that Colson would seek to work with Catholics on issues where evangelicals and Catholics find common cause.

He ended the post by suggesting that only political liberals can be true Christians, and that Colson must be in the same place as former President Richard Nixon, or hell, the reader assumes.

"Few men have done more to trade (betray?) the gospel of love for the gospel of empowering corporate America and greed through the misuse of the so-called culture war issues to get lower middle class whites to vote against their own economic interests in the name of 'family values.' Wherever Nixon is today he must be welcoming a true son of far right dirty politics to eternity with a 'job well done.'"

Schaeffer also implied that Colson was in hell in the original title to the Sunday blog post, "Religious Right Bigot Chuck Colson Goes to His Reward," before changing the title to, "Colson: An Evangelical Homophobic Anti-Woman Leader Passes On."

Not everyone on the political left used the occasion of Colson's death to describe the parts of Colson's life that they disliked.

Colson had also worked with Jim Wallis, a politically liberal evangelical who founded Sojourners, on issues where they found common cause. The Sojourner's website has a remembrance of Colson highlighting the aspects of his life's work that it appreciates.

"I was impressed with how Chuck had allowed his own experience of prison and of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ to shape his new vocation which led to Prison Fellowship now the largest prison ministry in the world. It is for that prophetic ministry he will be most remembered," Wallis said.

Mark Tooley, president of The Institute on Religion and Democracy, took exception to Schaeffer's post, writing, "Unlike the power obsessed, Religious Right stereotype preferred by Schaeffer, Colson emphasized private ministry over political action. Chastened by his own role in the Nixon Administration, Colson warned fellow evangelicals not to rely on the pursuit of power."

Colson had a reputation for "dirty politics" when he worked in the Nixon White House. He became a Christian during the Watergate scandal. As a result of his conversion, he became aware of his guilt regarding political activities unrelated to Watergate. After revealing what he had done while testifying in a Watergate trial, he was sent to prison. After prison, he founded Prison Fellowship, the largest global ministry to prisoners.

Frank Schaeffer is the son of Francis Schaeffer, one of the most influential evangelical theologians of the 21st century. Francis Schaeffer was also one of Colson's favorite authors. Francis Schaeffer's life work spanned from the 1960s to the 1980s. While he was popular within a subset of the hippie movement in the 1960's, he became active in conservative political causes in the 1980s, particularly on the issue of abortion.

Frank Schaeffer is often credited with convincing his father to become more politically active. Frank Schaeffer later rejected his conservative political activism and now champions liberal causes. In 2008, he wrote Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back, which described this conversion.

As a conservative political activist, he had a reputation for his bombastic style. While his politics has changed, his style has not.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: chuckcolson; frankschaeffer; hell

1 posted on 04/25/2012 10:39:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s more the opposite Frank as you have departed from the faith and have become a heretic preaching the doctrine of demons. Your place in the lake of fire has been reserved.

Hebrews 6:4-8

4For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, since on their own they are crucifying again the Son of God and are holding him up to contempt. 7Ground that drinks up the rain falling on it repeatedly, and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. 8But if it produces thorns and thistles, it is worthless and on the verge of being cursed; its end is to be burned over.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 10:43:20 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankie Schaeffer is a disgusting piece of work. He spent his life riding on his father’s coattails and sponging off his father’s name. After his father died he couldn’t make it on his own so he decided to cash in by turing against his father and Christianity altogeather. He now makes a living telling lies about his father. A real scumbag.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 10:44:13 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no such thing as the “Religious Left”....there are just heretics.


4 posted on 04/25/2012 10:44:41 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: SeekAndFind
Religious Left Figure ...
Is there a better example of an oxymoron? "Religious Left" ... LOL ....
5 posted on 04/25/2012 10:45:40 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Judge not. Pretty sure He was talking to you.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 04/25/2012 10:47:48 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SeekAndFind

Low-class


7 posted on 04/25/2012 10:54:01 AM PDT by nixonsnose (Let's see all you lawyers argue your way out of hell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet Chuck stands a much better chance of making it to Heaven than Frankie does.


8 posted on 04/25/2012 10:55:25 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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Schaeffer, whose own closet is full of demons, likely thinks that Jesus and Saint Paul are in hell as well.


9 posted on 04/25/2012 10:57:30 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SeekAndFind
Previous thread tells me that Joel Osteen says that Mormons are Christians. This thread tell me Frank Schaeffer says that Chuck Colson went to hell.
Pardon me, but I do not think either of these two are the final arbiters of the question.
In fact I do not believe anyone on this earth can be the final arbiter of the question. There is only One that can answer that question.
10 posted on 04/25/2012 10:57:34 AM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: SeekAndFind

Watergate was a speeding ticket, compared to the everyday, venal criminality of the Clinton and RaceMarxist Administrations.


11 posted on 04/25/2012 10:58:28 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

“...Saint Paul are in hell as well.”

####

Yes.

After all, Saul in his Watergate days, didn’t go after just Democrat politicians, he attacked Christ Himself.


12 posted on 04/25/2012 11:00:46 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not that anybody cares but I’d rather face God with Chuck’s record than my own.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 11:09:01 AM PDT by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: circlecity
Probably a fellow traveler of Bawney Fwank.
14 posted on 04/25/2012 11:16:07 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Francis Schaeffer was an intellectual and spiritual giant--he is the father of Frankie Schaeffer, the man who is now attacking the deceased Chuck Colson.

Frankie has claimed to have converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, but from my understanding at least some of the EO followers think Frankie is too acidic to be considered a good spokesperson for their faith.

Frankie just seems to be an angry middle aged man--kind of sad, really.

15 posted on 04/25/2012 11:20:11 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m no Biblical scholar, but there are messages in the Bible that one does not forget. Forgiveness, love and changing one’s life to be a good person are strong New Testament messages. I’m sure if St. Paul or St. Augustine or even Mary Magdalene had just died in the past week, it appears that Mr. Frank Schaeffer might have possibly said that they too would be burning in Hell. Mr. Colson most certainly paid a price for his transgressions and he did many good works in the latter half his life. There are many who improved their lives because of Chuck Colson. How many will praise or condemn Mr. Schaeffer after he has departed? That is not within our power, and neither is it with Mr. Schaeffer’s!


16 posted on 04/25/2012 11:26:53 AM PDT by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Judas was a liberal.


17 posted on 04/25/2012 11:38:32 AM PDT by tiki
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To: SeekAndFind; don-o
I feel like somebody should fast and pray for Frank Schaeffer. He doesn't seem to know who or what he is.

In 2008 he said loudly and frequently that he was "Pro-Life and Pro-Obama". Last year he said the pro-life movement is sick, and that we oppose abortion because we're "afraid of female sexuality." (I personally wouldn't want to comment on what motivates a man who's OK with penetrating a woman's sex organs with a sharp blade and a suction tube.)

Sad and disturbing. Frank said he was Evangelical in 1980. Orthodox in 1990. Now? Anybody know?

18 posted on 04/25/2012 12:01:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankie who????

The dude’s a poor man’s Ron Reagan, Jr.. Think about that for a second.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 3:53:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: SeekAndFind

“Wherever Nixon is today he must be welcoming a true son of far right dirty politics”

Nixon was far right? :? The man who gave us wage and price controls, the EPA, opened up diplomatic relations with Red China, pursued detente with the former U.S.S.R., and out pro-abortion justices on the Supreme Court? :?

If only the 37th President had been far right our nation would be in much better shape.


20 posted on 04/25/2012 3:58:11 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: SeekAndFind; windcliff; stylecouncilor

The “religious left” is un-Biblical and simply made-up. If you’re in such a “church”, make a remark just slightly outside their “orthodoxy”. See how long you last there.

It did however, bring me closer to God and Liberty.


21 posted on 04/27/2012 10:35:15 AM PDT by onedoug
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