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Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney Is Christian; Obama Is Too
Christian Post ^ | 04/25/2012 | Paul Stanley

Posted on 04/25/2012 10:41:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Joel Osteen, the popular megachurch pastor from Houston, appeared Tuesday afternoon on CNN's "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer" and said that he considers both presumed GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, a Mormon, and President Obama to be Christians.

Osteen, when asked about Romney's faith, said the former Massachusetts governor is indeed a Christian – which is a similar statement to the one he made in January.

"When I hear Mitt Romney say that he believes that Jesus is the Son of God – that he's the Christ, raised from the dead, that he's his Savior – that's good enough for me," said Osteen.

The Texas pastor did say that the Mormon faith was "not traditional Christianity," but that Mormonism still falls under the umbrella of Christian tenets. "Mormonism is a little different, but I still see them as brothers in Christ," said Osteen.

Many Christians do not consider Mormons to be Christians because they do not hold orthodox beliefs on core doctrines such as original sin, grace, the inerrancy of the Bible, and the understanding of the Trinity is different.

Osteen was also asked about President Obama's faith. Osteen said he has spent time with Obama and has no doubt that he is a Christian.

"I believe with all my heart that he's a Christian, as he says he is," Osteen stated.

Earlier on Tuesday, the Texas pastor served as guest chaplain for the U.S. House of Representatives at the request of Rep. Shelia Jackson Lee (D-Texas).

Lee, the often fiery congresswoman known for championing liberal causes, called Osteen a "humble spirit," and praised him for leading the "largest and most growing church in American history."

Osteen prayed: "Father we thank you that you show your goodness and your favor to the United States of American and those who govern it. We ask that you bless this House of Representatives, and each member who serves in it."

"Help these lawmakers to search their hearts so that they may serve with dignity and honor and through them our nation will achieve the destiny that you have set before us. Give them wisdom as they make good decisions, courage that they will hold fast to your truth, and compassion that all should prosper from their laws. We receive your presence here today, Father, and we pray that these lawmakers will remain mindful of you, that they will honor you in everything that they do here. In Jesus name, Amen."

After leading the House in prayer, Osteen got a private tour of the capitol from Lee, including seeing a belief prayer in the House Chapel.

When asked by reporters if he was bringing a specific message to Congress, he replied that he wanted to see more compromise on Capitol Hill. "It seems like when I was growing up there was more compromise, wanting to work with each other, and I think all of them – all of the lawmakers – have hearts to do what's right and they all are passionate about it."

While in Washington, D.C. this week, Osteen will also have private meetings with House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: joelosteen; obama; romney; wehatemormons

"Romney is Christian; Obama is too"
1 posted on 04/25/2012 10:41:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like a Universalist.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 10:43:43 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the same charlatan who, when asked specifically, would not say Jesus is the only way to God.

If this doesn’t expose the false prophet that is Joel Osteen, nothing will.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 10:46:11 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Anyone who thinks we can sit home, then survive four more years of Obama, is a damned fool.)
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To: Westbrook

Sounds like somebody who wants to sell books and not offend anyone.


4 posted on 04/25/2012 10:47:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Some people will fall for anything...



5 posted on 04/25/2012 10:48:04 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Joel,
Church is not Disneyland.


6 posted on 04/25/2012 10:51:15 AM PDT by sierrahome
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To: SeekAndFind

I have never liked Osteen. He reminds me of those slick tonic salesman from decades ago.

Osteen better fix his priorities. God or books. God is the only true author.


7 posted on 04/25/2012 10:51:55 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK then, don’t need his podcast.


8 posted on 04/25/2012 10:52:10 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (BO Threat Stream: http://blogsofwar.com/threatstream/index_barack_obama.html)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I'm just waiting for the day when Martin Short admits that he's been pulling everybody's leg, that
there IS no 'Joel Osteen' and that his 'wife' Victoria is just an extra MAXIM girl that was looking
for extra work. Osteen is a fraud and a phony, just like 0bama and 0Romney.
9 posted on 04/25/2012 10:53:07 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: SeekAndFind

Never trust a man, let alone a preacher, who wears a permanent.


10 posted on 04/25/2012 10:58:47 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

—This is the same charlatan who, when asked specifically, would not say Jesus is the only way to God.—

That is what ended him for me. It’s pretty simple, really. Once he said that, I do not care to hear or read anything he says, regarding Christianity.

Now, if he knows of a couple of good local restaurants, I’m all ears.


11 posted on 04/25/2012 10:59:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind
>"Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney Is Christian; Obama Is Too"

"We are no longer a Christian Nation." BHO

The Creator is not amused.

12 posted on 04/25/2012 11:09:09 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Westbrook

He is the poster child for the Health, Wealth, and Prosperity Doctrine....aka.....heresy.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 11:11:24 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: SeekAndFind
Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney Is Christian; Obama Is Too

I'll go out on a limb: NONE OF THEM ARE.

"You shall know them by their fruits..."

14 posted on 04/25/2012 11:12:46 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: SeekAndFind

15 posted on 04/25/2012 11:14:06 AM PDT by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joel doesn’t know his theology...or he is lying.

Either is disturbing.

By the way, Romney is preferable to Obama, but it doesn’t mean his theology is orthodox, biblical Christianity.


16 posted on 04/25/2012 11:14:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

But Osteen is a fraud himself getting super rich on his version of the Prosperity Gospel. We have a 1000 suckers born each minute and little wonder this nation is in such a mess.


17 posted on 04/25/2012 11:17:14 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the great signs of the Second Coming of Jesus is the Great Apostacy, the rise in false Christs, the lack of love.

Look around. Look up!


18 posted on 04/25/2012 11:19:15 AM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: SeekAndFind

At best, two of these three men are not Christians and one is a very poor one. At worst they are all not Christian but pretending to be.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 11:28:01 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SeekAndFind; tx_eggman

My first question is... “What were they doing praying in the House?”

I thought they frowned upon such activity.


20 posted on 04/25/2012 11:29:24 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: SoFloFreeper

He doesn’t know theology. He is neither ordained nor seminary trained. He inherited the congregation from his father.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 11:30:49 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: SeekAndFind
Osteen is on immediately after Chris Wallace in this market. I lunch for the remote at the end of Chris' show.

Cannot stand this guy.

22 posted on 04/25/2012 11:31:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Televagilist rockstar, that’s all that person is; trying to woo the crowd in a, oh so secular way. Here is another example of the reason why Christianity is going down the rat hole of history. If you have to sell faith, it isn’t worth having. This also gives the secular society more ammunition to help further dig our graves.


23 posted on 04/25/2012 11:38:21 AM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: SeekAndFind
One of the problems with the Holy Rollers is they are SOFT ON ROMNEY, not just the Mormons.

We see that problem with Govorner McDonnell in Virginia, with Osteen, and with others ~ even Sarah is less than direct with respect to what a total doufous Romney is. Then there are the strict church folks, not all that different, like the old gal from Minnesota ~ she just couldn't get it in her head that a guy who belongs to a church that tells you that you aren't Christian is probably not deserving of being a Christian himself.

Maybe it was better when this crowd were boycotting politics.

24 posted on 04/25/2012 11:40:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Westbrook
I agree IF INDEED, Romney did state those words as facts. I've talked to a few Mormons in the past that claimed the same thing. That said , I don't believe the Mormon Church as a whole are Christians but as individual?? Only God knows for sure.
25 posted on 04/25/2012 11:41:19 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: muawiyah
Osteen is on immediately after Chris Wallace in this market. I lunch for the remote at the end of Chris' show.

I watch neither but if I had to pick one it would be Joel. I see nothing at all redeeming in watching any Sunday morning political indoctrination show that comes from NY or Wash.

26 posted on 04/25/2012 11:52:22 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Digger
Living in the DC area I am quite able to see through the BS screen tossed up by the network folks.

Now, about Osteen, he meets the description of a sort described in the Bible as someone to avoid.

27 posted on 04/25/2012 11:58:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Osteen was also asked about President Obama’s faith. Osteen said he has spent time with Obama and has no doubt that he is a Christian.

Oh Yeah??? Where are his baptismal records???, Where and when was he baptized???

Obamamaumau is a Muslim Marxist in thought, word, and deed.


28 posted on 04/25/2012 11:58:47 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: SeekAndFind

I cannot stand his sleazy delivery and his “it’s just all about being positive” faith. He might have a big following, but I consider him a charlatan - just my opinion. It has nothing to do with what he just stated, but it doesn’t surprise me with his watered-down version of Christianity.


29 posted on 04/25/2012 12:00:06 PM PDT by gramho12
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To: SeekAndFind
Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney Is Christian; Obama Is Too

Three for three?
30 posted on 04/25/2012 12:01:18 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: SeekAndFind

What a puke in action that fraud is!


31 posted on 04/25/2012 12:05:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fraud olsteen would never call sin what it is either so I expect this from him.


32 posted on 04/25/2012 12:06:08 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: mkjessup

Joel Osteen is the fake christian type who will be all gungho about Chrislam, if he believes it will increase his wealth and power. He is the useful idiot type to the antiChrist.


33 posted on 04/25/2012 12:07:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SeekAndFind
None of them are Christian, including Osteen.
34 posted on 04/25/2012 12:12:55 PM PDT by sigzero
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t shive a git about what Joel Osteen says or thinks.

The Lord says...”Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”
(Matthew 7:15)


35 posted on 04/25/2012 12:13:46 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: aruanan

“Three for three?”

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? (Matthew 7:16)


36 posted on 04/25/2012 12:16:49 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: SeekAndFind

Done with him.


37 posted on 04/25/2012 12:21:58 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t trust a man in a mullet....


38 posted on 04/25/2012 1:00:13 PM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: SeekAndFind
Mr. Osteen,

Romney is NOT a Christian...he involves himself in the cultic practices of the Mormonism...not Christian at all.

Cults, Movements, World Religions
Sects and Satanic Cults

39 posted on 04/25/2012 1:06:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish

My brother asked me to attend an Osteen Service long before they moved to the Summit in Houston. I vividly remember 3 things. First - Parking. We had to park across the street and the parking spots on the church grounds were for the staff. Nothing but Caddies, Lexus’, Beamers etc...

Second - Music and band was first rate. However, after the band it was Victoria’s turn. She pitched the need to donate and tithe. 30 mins worth of how important it is.

Third - Friend of a friend, golf partner etc... quit his pharma job to work for the church. Could not afford his car payment so he sold it. Prayed that he would find transportation. Sum of his prayer - Specific make, year and model of BMW. Result - Church member gave him specific make, model and year of BMW he prayed for.

Bottom line - He is a motivational speaker at best, living off the donations of his “flock.” Never went back, and never will again.

FWIW.


40 posted on 04/25/2012 1:27:58 PM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: SeekAndFind

Soon jokers like this will be telling us that Scientology is Christian

http://mollymuses.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/mormon-flow-chart-for-your-soul/


41 posted on 04/27/2012 2:36:15 PM PDT by Fred (http://etchasketchmittromney.com/)
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