I'm placing no bets. At least he's wearing clericals.
Posted on 04/27/2012 8:57:37 AM PDT by marshmallow
BELLEVILLE -- The Rev. Bill Rowe said Wednesday he will not go quietly into forced retirement, even if his only avenue of appeal is to Cardinal Raymond Burke in Rome, who has already told Belleville Bishop Edward Braxton to get rid of the Mount Carmel priest.
"There have been so many people who have supported me and said that what was happening was right, I feel that maybe I have to just let Bishop Braxton complete the course to remove me and say I fought the best fight I could."
Rowe, pastor of St. Mary Parish in Mt. Carmel, drew national attention through his practice of ad libbing parts of the liturgy that are said during the Roman Catholic Mass.
The liturgy was recently revamped to reflect earlier Latin versions, a move by the Vatican that has received criticism from some Catholics. It is supposed to be followed word for word.
Braxton could not be reached. He has a policy of not commenting to local media.
However, during a meeting with Braxton on Tuesday at the Chancery in Belleville, Rowe said he was told that if he didn't go, he would be removed. Straying from the strict wording of the liturgy was only one of the accusations. In an email, Rowe said Braxton also brought up two marriages that Rowe said he officiated over as civil unions, even though the divorced people involved had not received formal annulments from the church.
"The parties got divorced and were going to marry others and they asked me if I would at least do a civil marriage," Rowe said.
"They knew I couldn't do the regular thing, so in both cases the gesture to keep them within the fold of the church was better than forcing them to go somewhere else."
Braxton, according.......
(Excerpt) Read more at bnd.com ...
Keeping “these people in the fold” at all costs to the TRUTH and the SACRAMENTS is getting tiresome.
That excuse is worn worse than a dirty mop, especially for Catholics who respect the narrow road and try their guts out to stay on it, by their behaviour, their practice of the faith and their love for the Commandments and constant self correction.
That BROAD road is a hell of a lot more popular, easier than a feather pillow to navigate and you get your way, but it leads to perdition and the ride is a blast until you arrive.
These priests are unrepentant, ignorant and worship at the feet of their own self will, but lead entire flocks of namby pamby Catholics right along with them. No wonder the Church is in trouble here in the US. These people have had the run of the field now for decades without consequence nor accountability.
I blame the condition of the USA on the condition of the sleeping Church here, who has kept their head down and eyes closed for way too long about way too much, both in government and out.
There are large pockets of socialist Catholics with microphones trying to speak for the Church, confusing the people, both Catholics and non-Catholics, and they have access to power.
END THIS.
Looks like Fr. Rowe was crusin’ for a brusin’.
He knew what he was doing, now he’s going to pay for it.
Pity. But he leaned into a right cross(no pun intended).
You presume those who protected child rapists and those who would preserve the ancient form of the liturgy are of one party.
More accurately, those who would preserve the liturgy have been outraged at the complete lack of obedience to the Church that has resulted in the church appearing to endorse those who justify the slaughter of killing 50 million babies, and yes, raping children. They have related the desecration of children to the desecration of the mass. They know the Vatican warned against letting homosexuals become priests, and the disobedient American Church allowed them in by the thousands. They have concluded that the best weapon in their arsenal is to insist that those who would represent the Church do so faithfully. They need you to stop making excuses for those who disobey the Church, and belittling their efforts.
They let you stay if you can’t spell too.
In fact, I’d bet 5-to-1 that Fr. Bill Rowe is a poofter.
The Church doesn't have "alter" boys. It has an alter Christus and altar servers, some of whom are boys.
Some of the idiotic things being said in a petition to retain him:
“a man of God is allowed to use his own words when talking to God”
Yes, but a priest prays the prayers of the entire Church, not his own.
“Certainly a humble people serving/God loving priest.”
Humble enough to replace 2,000 years of tradition and the faithfulness of billions with his own notions?
“The gospel is coming from his heart and lips as the Holy Spirit sees fit. glen”
The Holy Spirit works through a single man, acting in defiance, but not in the prayers of billions of Catholics, or the bishop who has been ordained to act in the Name of the Holy Spirit?
I have witnessed a Baptist minister, forced to conduct a baptism of a prisoner in a prison, where he could not do his Baptist thing. He struggled valiantly to explain the Lord’s Supper, and nearly re-created the entire Catholic Liturgy of the Word. That is the Holy Spirit in action. This is a man who was given the words of the Holy Spirit, through the hands of the Church which Jesus founded, and he has substituted his own wisdom for that of the Church.
>> If he is denounced by the Catholic Church, then he can still teach scripture as he sees fit. You don’t have to do what the system says, just to do what you think is right. <<
Of course, that presumes you don’t believe in the system, which means that if you claim to represent it, as the priest does, you are a fraud and a liar.
>> This is disturbing. What troubles me the most is the negative impact on the children. He is one priest who can communicate so well with our youth. Tying in scripture to something these young kids can understand makes a HUGE impact! That is where the focus of the Catholic Church should be <<
It’s for the chiiiillldrreeeeenn... They just can’t understand morality, if you don’t present it to them through disobedience, arrogance, and anti-authoritarianism!!! God forbid he should actually teach the children the meaning of the mass.
dangus, very nice reply. I am greatly encouraged that the hammer is starting to fall here and there on these entirely protestant priests to the accurate teachings and proper prayers of Christ Jesus, ad libbing their homilies.
If this little flock wishes to have a “Power Hour” for the chillllldren and youth, and hear rousing adlib socio-political homilies that amount to another half hour of motivational speaking, there are stops on every corner where that is being done regularly as is the trend.
Let them go be protestant with protestants, but get them out of the Church until they return to the narrow road in repentance and with conviction.
Thanks, dangus.
I hate to say this...but i genuinely laughed out loud at your comment! A horrible truth for sure!
Very wrong.
I suspect (though I cannot be sure, as I am not a mind reader) that you know you have it wrong.
So ...
It's a free country.
If you want to keep on getting it wrong, and looking like an idiot ...
That's your business.
Knock yourself out.
I'm placing no bets. At least he's wearing clericals.
You want to get this straight? Then how about this: good priests do not violate the sanctity of sex or of the sacraments. If some priest dares to do so, we all rejoice when he gets disciplined, reproved, removed, or prosecuted, as the case may be.
The bishops who apply justice and judgment are the "Catholic faction of the Catholic Church." They deserve respect from the upright, not snickers from the peanut gallery.
It’s not only some Catholic priests that have abused children. It’s happened in other protestant denominations as well. Look at things a little deeper before you bash a faith.
To ad-lib a homily; which is prudential, is acceptable and for most Priests is SOP. To ad-lib the Liturgy of the Word or Liturgy of the Eucharist is a no-no.
ad libitum - Latin for "at one's pleasure"
Oh get real. There were fewer than 10 complaints in 2010 against priests.
How many against pastors in your religion?
Thank you. You are quite correct. I meant to apply the ad-lib to the Liturgy. I see now that I messed up.
Some people like to engage in intelligent discussion ... even with folks with whom they disagree.
Some people like to throw handfuls of sewage for reasons known only to them.
Might be easier to swallow if you can explain why Cardinal Law now resides at the Vatican...
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